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it seems someone on high is monitoring this thread as selected posts are being removed or sensored.
i was just about to complement edwardwoodwardwould on his post regarding crying bookmakers after the effort cheltenham put in to get tuesdays racing on for them and his post vanished before my eyes. very strange |
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yes - didn't seem much wrong with the post to me - strange
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it seems the very mention of tote monopoly must have been too much but i'm sure we can fight our own battles on that thought
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Did you know your old mate SOGY has been banned for a month adge ?
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can't be because of his tipping...no i didn't , democrat
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agree there....the ONLY long term solution to all the ills of on-course bookmaking is to make the racecourse MARKET exactly that...unrelated to exchange betting and formed by the opinions of those bookmakers who are good enough to survive. Hedging has to stay within that market....punters will return because they will be pitting their wits against the old enemy...not against automated clueless fools who are gradually killing themselves off by short term stupidity..
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Of course lights, no exchange use on course would transform betting rings, but even less likely to happen than a turnover tax.
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Big Bookmakers call all the shots,if they dont wont something to happen it wont (i.e.turnover tax).The more expensive it is to bet in fixed fees the better,as middle of the road,and end of line pitches will fall by the wayside,as the expense of them could not be sustained.Festival meetings will always have their Quota of Bookmakers, albeit a lot less than presently,but the bread and butter meetings will only have a handful of Bookmakers,the dead wood will have been weeded out and they have it to themselfs. MISSION ACCOMPLISHED....These people do not care who they put out of business... It happened in Ireland and the Betting Rings are now Decimated.Racecourse Pitch Lists that once had 100 Bookmakers on them has now dwindled down to 25 to 30 Bookmakers,the Festivals held up for few years but its now starting to affect them too, because of the Exorbitant Fixed Pitch fees brought in by "GUESS WHO" so called "BIG BOOKMAKERS"... They sabotaged a deal on 1 and 1/2% turnover tax,because it would have been to costly on them, with threats to racecourses that they would withdraw from sponsorship. The Majority of middle and end of line Bookmakers were put out of business, and others just had to walk away.The same trends seem to be setting into the U.K.now...Always beware of the negotiating teams "SELF INTEREST",i am alright fcuk the small man...
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well the only time i was aware of 1.5% turnover tax being a possibility was in the early negotiations with ascot racecourse and even then it was based on a badge fee of TEN times the admission price PLUS 1.5% of gross turnover.
this , as we all know , was defeated. but i wouldn't let facts get in the way , steinbeck . actually ascot WOULD like the number of bookmakers reduced by 50% as they consider us unsightly at the royal meeting |
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Wonder how unsightly ascot would be if the Bookmakers boycotted the rest of ascots meetings,Flat and N.H..Same applies to all them festival meetings..
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STEIN,THE USUAL SUSPECTS DONT THINK LIKE THAT AND I WOULD GUESS WOULD BE THE LAST TO WALK OFF.
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apparently one northern layers considering dropping the daily rate of £70 a day for his workmen down to 60 lololololololol
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should get some girls. they think £40 is top money
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Looks like I'm overpaying
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ADGE - THOUGHT THIS WAS A BOOKMAKING THREAD......WHAT YOU CHOOSE TO DO WITH YOUR MONEY IS YOUR AFFAIR
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