Table 2 predicted profitable runners at supposed strike rates and known BSP but over 8.0 BSP


Sorry folks I should of shown 8.0 BSP as per point earlier so to be fair I will post output 1 in next post with

horses at 8.0 or under, but its still pretty bad.

But this output proves that even at the hardest jumps track to win at , profit abounds

		Ran	157.00	157.00
		Won	12.00	41.00
		SR%	7.64	26.11
Combined rating
		P/L	+80.70	+41.45
1:30 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Trifolium37 p	98	3	-1	3.54
Darlan25	50	2	-1	3.9
2:05 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Menorah45	18	3	-1	-1
2:40 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Bottman45	405	15	-1	-1
Zarrafakt52	118	19	-1	-1
Our Mick25	74	3	-1	4.66
3:20 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Celestial Halo24 tb	548	9	-1	-1
Zaidpour24	441	8	-1	-1
Overturn78	413	2	-1	4.07
4:00 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Midnight Haze96	629	6	-1	-1
Fortification18 p	146	13	-1	-1
Maljimar175	11	7	-1	-1
4:40 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Kentford Grey Lady52	93	2	-1	3.48
Swincombe Flame24	52	9	-1	-1
5:15  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Quincy Des Pictons77	846	7	-1	-1
Owen Glendower19	751	3	-1	4.76
Cucumber Run16 b1	451	17	-1	-1
1:30 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Daffern Seal203	286	6	-1	-1
Lively Baron19 b	200	9	-1	-1
Four Commanders24	63	3	-1	4
2:05 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Felix Yonger17	100	2	-1	5.11
2:40 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Call The Police31	532	3	-1	4.54
Join Together95	35	9	-1	-1
3:20 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Gauvain25 b	358	4	-1	-1
Realt Dubh314	184	5	-1	-1
Wishfull Thinking53 t	148	8	-1	-1
4:00 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Third Intention17 t	281	8	-1	-1
Featherbed Lane25	245	24	-1	-1
4:40 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Kie32	535	22	-1	-1
Bat Masterson18 b	489	8	-1	-1
Une Artiste18	463	1	55.32	10.44
5:15  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Clonbanan Lad32	419	12	-1	-1
Champagne Fever52	100	1	22.54	5.71
Pique Sous31	70	3	-1	5
1:30 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Cristal Bonus19	289	9	-1	-1
2:05 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Restless Harry26	172	11	-1	-1
2:40 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Blazing Tempo53	196	11	-1	-1
3:20 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Mourad25	519	6	-1	-1
Voler La Vedette49 t	209	2	-1	5.1
So Young60	182	9	-1	-1
4:00 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Hector´s Choice19	87	17	-1	-1
Notus De La Tour46 p	61	21	-1	-1
Niceonefrankie13 5x	48	11	-1	-1
4:40  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Your Busy19 t	545	10	-1	-1
Benbane Head26 t	279	9	-1	-1
Start Me Up25	25	5	-1	-1
1:30 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Hollow Tree48	335	7	-1	-1
Countrywide Flame33	285	1	46	9.9
Urbain De Sivola24	94	11	-1	-1
2:05 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Lifestyle48	533	21	-1	-1
Edgardo Sol24	235	2	-1	7.6
Moon Dice78	156	24	-1	-1
2:40 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Ipsos Du Berlais62	426	19	-1	-1
Grand Vision27	214	3	-1	6.48
Lovcen27	42	4	-1	4.34
3:20 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
The Giant Bolster28	551	2	-1	13.69
Burton Port28	15	4	-1	-1
Synchronised79	12	1	10.35	3.19
4:00 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Rowdy Rampage224	597	22	-1	-1
Merchant Royal57	44	7	-1	-1
Salsify33	10	1	11.24	3.39
4:40 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Arab League77 p	642	10	-1	-1
Attaglance26 t	165	1	28	5.9
Empire Levant28	129	15	-1	-1
5:15  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Ultimate13 5x	376	21	-1	-1
Eradicate72	113	14	-1	-1
Toubab21	42	20	-1	-1
2:00 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Captain Sunshine32	80	1	8.22	2.39
2:35 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Definite Dawn32	366	11	-1	-1
Battlecry21	258	2	-1	4.58
Gone To Lunch13 v	120	12	-1	-1
3:10 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Red Not Blue158	178	2	-1	6.8
First Fandango35 t	86	4	-1	6.8
3:45 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Lord Villez11	120	4	-1	1.69
4:20 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Lucky Mix59	395	14	-1	-1
Rossmore Lad23 p	172	16	-1	-1
Cocacobana39	153	7	-1	-1
4:55 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
5:30  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Sweet World25	410	6	-1	-1
Captain Sharpe17 p	97	1	14	3.65
Amtired38 p	80	3	-1	3.07
2:00 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Prima Porta37	270	4	-1	-1
Dreambrook Lady19	96	3	-1	-1
2:35 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
3:10 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Thedeboftheyear38	301	6	-1	-1
Ixora37	76	11	-1	-1
Lady Karabaya26	22	7	-1	-1
3:45 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Indian Pipe Dream19	293	6	-1	-1
4:20 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
South O´The Border18	200	6	-1	-1
Phare Isle18 t	153	4	-1	2.34
Golan Way36	116	3	-1	2.34
4:55 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Tatispout19	78	3	-1	2.31
5:00 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Ronnie Ronalde15	383	F	-1	-1
Ryeman24 tb	120	ur	-1	-1
Dunshane24 t	82	5	-1	-1
5:35 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
My Lil Ledge10P t	454	3	-1	3.9
Bleuvito8 p	144	4	-1	-1
6:10 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
The General Lee17P	669	8	-1	-1
James Pine10P	333	7	-1	-1
6:45 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Rathcor25P	33	4	-1	-1
7:20 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Offshore Account20 tp	668	4	-1	-1
Keenan´s Future20 p	111	F	-1	-1
7:50 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Kildonnan10P p	407	pu	-1	-1
8:20  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Mustangsallyrally23P tp	236	6	-1	-1
Silver Adonis20 b	80	1	9.45	2.38
2:10 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Churchfield Champ	713	pu	-1	-1
De Faoithesdream	287	7	-1	-1
Special Account	12	4	-1	-1
2:45 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Kingsmere	417	F	-1	-1
Ixora	346	5	-1	-1
What A Warrior	25	4	-1	-1
3:20 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Natural Spring	267	12	-1	-1
American Spin	130	7	-1	-1
Howizee	119	6	-1	-1
3:55 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
4:30 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
The Romford Pele	11	2	-1	2.75
5:05 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
The Falklander	164	8	-1	-1
Wide Receiver	123	16	-1	-1
Monbeg Dude	72	14	-1	-1
5:40  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Take Of Shoc'S	969	21	-1	-1
Gay Sloane	316	4	-1	6.67
Bathwick Man	208	8	-1	-1
2:00 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Minella For Value	511	6	-1	-1
2:30 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Havingotascoobydo	144	10	-1	-1
Bobowen	98	19	-1	-1
3:05 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Captain Sharpe	540	5	-1	-1
4:20 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Big Easy	113	5	-1	-1
Cucumber Run	71	11	-1	-1
3:40 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Wellforth	822	13	-1	-1
Darna	573	17	-1	-1
Blues And Twos	364	14	-1	-1
4:55 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Tornade D'Estruval	165	7	-1	-1
Rajnagan	140	5	-1	-1
His Excellency	23	1	10.67	2.65
5:30  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Jazz Man	504	17	-1	-1
12:15 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Hildisvini	92	F	-1	-1
12:45 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Bene Lad	328	9	-1	-1
Qoubilai	303	12	-1	-1
Upthemsteps	169	5	-1	-1
1:20 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Hawkhill	578	16	-1	-1
Bold Chief	213	7	-1	-1
Dan Breen	92	3	-1	4.2
1:55 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Master Overseer	376	1	12.2	3.55
Crash	145	6	-1	-1
2:30 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Leac An Scail	547	3	-1	9.85
Shakervilz	283	6	-1	-1
3:05 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Medinas	24	4	-1	-1
3:40  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Mr Watson	197	5	-1	-1
Imperial Leader	75	4	-1	-1
Valdez	40	7	-1	-1
12:10 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
12:45 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
What A Warrior	409	4	-1	-1
Best Served Cold	20	5	-1	-1
1:20 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Oiseau De Nuit	18	6	-1	-1
1:55 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Ardkilly Witness	1108	7	-1	-1
Midnight Appeal	150	3	-1	-1
2:30 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Micheal Flips	383	5	-1	-1
Golden Chieftain	340	3	-1	4.83
Unioniste	39	1	9.71	2.9
3:05 »  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
One Cool Shabra	435	6	-1	-1
3:40  Cheltenham	points	Result	Pl/s	place
Brampour	524	3	-1	-1

how the fu ck is this imbecile just allowed to continually ruin threads?

How do you ruin a tread Patrick that states that betting on horses is never profitable by displaying that

checking the abilities of horses against the price can easily make profits?



Perhaps Patrick you need to understand that contempt is not logical and for that matter

criticism has to be backed up by proof!

If you want the biggest profits from jumps racing, lay the sub 5.0 brigade at Chelts and consider

backing the bigger odds at Uttoxeter which is far more profitable on average but not the spectacle that draws

in the crowds and money IMO....

ALtough it pains me to admit it, I would have to rate hellos last post as 9 out of 10

hello :-)
19 Feb 13 23:13
The guy is a mathamatical genius and its cost him

Wife long gone , hasnt noticed his dog died weeks ago , and his underpants are taking him to court for neglect



But still he persues excellence in his field , one day we will all know the name bffanatic , front page news
as he is dragged kicking and screaming , pleading to put one last table up

Superb post!

someone needs to report all that s****.....

Its ok Manxy as I doubt Betfair would worry much about anyone that might make profits using computers

as its the fastest way to take layers and backers dough and pass in on to Betfiar in the form of charges

a finite and efficient system to make profits all round and a mutual rewarding understanding

LOL....really is hard to fathom what some of you are doing on here if the game is as bent as you make out...like getting mugged on the way home and continuing to use the same route....some of the dodgy practices seem to have become more blatant this AW season but turf racing nowhere near so corrupt as this place would have you believe...regular losers need to look closer to home when apportioning blame imo

yes, everyone else

I think BFF thinks he is a genius, but is in fact desperately trying to sort a way of winning out, by doing stupid waste of time spread sheets that in his mind make sense.

If he isn't seeing a psychiatrist he needs to book an urgent appointment now.

He is suffering from delusion, he imagines he is making money, when in fact he never backs his so called selections.

http://youtu.be/fmLnGw-b6JI

And for the pros on here~ http://youtu.be/rqQT3oKA3v8

duncan idaho     20 Feb 13 07:52 
LOL....really is hard to fathom what some of you are doing on here if the game is as bent as you make out...like getting mugged on the way home and continuing to use the same route....some of the dodgy practices seem to have become more blatant this AW season but turf racing nowhere near so corrupt as this place would have you believe...regular losers need to look closer to home when apportioning blame imo



finally - a sensible post!

Why dont you be a good sport and continue to post your certs so we can lay

I would categorically like to state that in no way have I found after researching nearly a years worth of races

that horse racing is bent, in fact it is probably the most regulated and fair of all the sports as horses

nearly always give 100% effort as do the stable hands and jockeys.

Bur if you continue to pay homage to the markets that are seeded and controlled by the course and high street bookmakers

in terms of the short end of the market then you simply wont make a profit unless you grade the short ones into

horses that are over or in most cases under priced.



If you consider that certain horses at the short end of the market are not a fair price then you always have the

option of laying the price with fairly limited exposure as do the hoards of bookmakers that make a regular income from

these prices.

use2begudear
20 Feb 13 09:20

Your comment about avoiding paying charges, well if one is in profit then using an exchange you have to understand that

you have to pay charges or the host company as in this case Betfair would not have the money to operate

and the fact that most of the big hitters have always used Betfair and not the other mickey mouse exchanges is the reason

the Premium charges had to be applied as betfair has to find new customers and function at a greater rate of knots

than a small and/or unpopular competitor.

Good post stoozbet and the moral is in terms of going about things the wrong way, backing the hype instead of laying, doing the opposite is look in the mirror and see how the other half live

A trolling masterclass from the OP imo

jajabink     20 Feb 13 12:13 
ive made 33pts profit to 25 pound stakes since january 1st,it can be done its just most people bet on anything from asia soccer to im a celebrity and wonder why they lose



absolutely