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MP wants 'benefit card what can only be spent on food and clothes'
MP wants 'benefit card what can only be spent on food and clothes'
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Three million immigrants into the Country in the last ten years are surely not all claiming..
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most come here to get work
problem is we only have a limited number of jobs |
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what gets me is that these politicians are saying that they are looking after the taxpayers ,well the taxpayers are looking after them ,dont bite the hand that feeds you !
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Yes it is almost all down to parental input or lack of but how do you solve 100s of yrs of poverty of body/soul/mind,kids are sent to be educated in subjects totally unsuited to them and are damned when they do not "acheive" so already coming from in many cases dysfunctional homes these poor kids see nothing positive in their lives they have no confidence in themselves and it goes on and on yet we expect them to be solid citizens,I wonder how some of those who are so ready to condemn if they began their lives under such circumstances,we all have a duty to help or come up with solutions for those less fortunate,I am by the way from a solid working class Glasgow background,many in my greater family have went on to be for the want of a better word succesful,my parents gave us a very strong sense of our faith and our moral duty,it has stood us all in good stead,there has to be another way.
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Three million immigrants into the Country in the last ten years are surely not all claiming..
there the ones on the census what about million or 2 or 3 that are here illegally |
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The last person in Glasgow not claiming benefits Barney21 was delivering Iron Bru with a Horse and Cart..
Independence...Bring It On... |
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Glad to hear Barney..
 it is not impossible for children of working class to do well..it is just so much harder I am not upper/upper middle class either, but I know how they work. They are like a giant production line turning out copies of themselves. Even the less intelligent ones do well. Doctors, lawyers, accountants, airline pilots, officers in armed forces.. the list goes no. They virtually all come from this background How you break this cycle is nearly impossible, without taking away parental choice...so I dont know. But I am glad you made it Barney...I did not, but would not blame my upbringing, all down to me I am afraid |
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 homefortea |
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You are having a laugh ebul..
The reason why the children of the Working Class cannot do so well is because mass immigration (New Labour orientated) has meant that so much of their teachers time is taken up with looking after people whos first language is not English... |
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no I am right homefortea
still opinions,opinions  |
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Immigration started in the 1950s under a Conservative government I believe
to ease a temporary labour shortage it has been out of contol ever since imo If you talking of East Europeans...well EU rules aint it |
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the government /establishment are and have been working on a system that will do away with cash ,every transaction be it buting a newspaper or purchasing a high end car ,every person in the u.k will have one of these cards ,its similar to the current oyster type system wher you swipe the card through a system and it deducts or adds to your account its in its infancy stage but is being trialed in some british and american army bases, it will probably put a brake on drug dealers ,money launderers, fraudsters ect,as every transaction will have to go through these cards and cash will be defunct .and anyone who is hoarding large sums of cash for whatever reason will have to bring it out into the open . its not that far away from being perfected ! then the fun starts !
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Somewhere down the line we have to stop the profligate pregnancies of young girls who really thro no fault of their own have children just for the sake of,they have no inkling of what bringing a child up entails,for starters as I said previously why educate young people in academic subjects when most just do not have the abilities required,better is it not to educate them in health/hygiene/good husbandry/social skills and encourage and reward them when they acquire the sufficient level of skill in these fields,I would have faith schools where there is or should be a strong moral ethic,we ignore our spiritual side at our peril this is the third side of the triangle of life which goes unnoticed and each side supports the other 2,the secularists will in my opinion ruin the fibre of this country,they have no rock or foundation encouraging an environment of "anything goes" one example being "gay marriage" who the eff came up with that one,we are losing the battle,get back to basics of strong family and a strong moral commitment to marriage,any or every society needs a strong foundation,we are so close to ours crumbling.
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Let them eat cake
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Has to baked first taximan.
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Typical MP grandstanding - as if jobless buying cigarettes and alcohol is why the country's struggling. Clueless.
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this second round of proposed cuts coming in early next year is when it is going to hit a lot of people,working or unemployed unless you are wealthy then they are going to affect most of society ,but on a brighter note dave cameron says we are all in this together !so all round to daves house when things get tough !
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cigs and booze = massive earners for the govt.
It's a case of kick down, how about the tory c00nt goes after the tax avoiding companies on everyones street corners. No, let's hush that and accept their contributions to business zones (all concentrated within london of course0 |
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I agree Barney about moral values
I did put up a long reply but appears to have been censored  We need to go back to 1950s values, a better world imo |
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so nothing stopping you buying lets say fifty quids worth of jelly babies...this will never work
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what about people who get tax credits to topup their low wages,is that counted as benefit as well,stupid idea
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Great idea but unworkable,Skinto,Adge and Barry Dennis will be offering 1/8 the odds ew to a pair of Levis.
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The government are pulling our pants down saying the are tackling the debt.
Our benefits system is too big to be able to lower he debt it is only going to get worse. No government has been able to fix it and none will. |
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It is clearly perceived by now that this current government doesn't know its "Jobs vacancy hole" from its elbow.
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This government is dog sh it.
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The very same meaning
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I just wonder that when the great ciruses became unpopular and fell by the wayside, how many clowns
found a new career in Goverment.I personally Know of one John Major but after the last election we may need but another recount... |
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Your Government are doing a good job considering what they were left to sort out,if the only dipstick Fife ever produced had not sold all your gold,Dickinsons real Deal could have bailed you out.........at scrap value.
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Will tax rebates for the super rich also still be paid in cash or in cruise ship vouchers?
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Dont get personal Bf.
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I wasnt
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lol
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Perhaps Paul Danials the magician should be the next prime minister as
Mr camerons atempts at cutting the problems in half on stage are leaving far too much blood on the instruments... |
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Hung Parliments sometimes manage to get in power on a yellow card, but they always leave on a red card,
its an inevitabilty in the rules of playing the game. |
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Are we suprised at the increase of fowl play in the spin market as we such the half oranges?
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Benefits could be limited to buying bare essentials as Iain Duncan Smith warns of dangers of giving claimants cash
Work and Pensions Secretary is examining how a 'welfare card' to limit how handouts are spent could work in practice Government launches website to find work for jobless while they sleep Labour vows to oppose 1% cap on benefits rises By Matt Chorley, Mailonline Political Editor PUBLISHED 20 December 2012 Work and Pensions Iain Duncan Smith said he was looking at how a 'welfare card' would work in practice Benefits claimants would be banned from using state handouts to buy beer and alcohol under plans being actively considered by the government. Work and Pensions Secretary Iain Duncan Smith today admitted he was ‘looking at this process’ to see how a welfare card, which can only be used to buy certain items, would work in practice. It comes as ministers published legislation to cap rises in benefits at one per cent for each of the next three years, setting the scene for a battle with the Labour party which has argued for bigger rises through to 2015. The cap is expected to eventually save £3.7billion, but Labour says it is an attack on hard working families. But Mr Duncan Smith signalled his determination to get tough with people who receive benefits as he unveiled a new jobs website which would force the workless to explain why they were refusing employment. And he backed the idea of benefits being added to a pre-pay card which can only be used for certain purchases. He said: ‘I’ve been looking at this process to figure out whether it’s feasible, how would it work, how does it match with legal obligations, so we’ve already been examining this. ‘I genuinely think there are some areas where we might want to think about.’ He added that one cause of concern was drug addicts using benefits to feed a habit. ‘You know, somebody who has a history of real drug addiction, giving people cash sometimes can actually lead to further problems,’ he told BBC Radio 4. It follows a move in the Commons by a backbench Tory MP to change the law to introduce a welfare card. Alec Shelbrooke said he wanted to stop state money being used for non-essential, desirable and often damaging (NEDDs) products like alcohol, cigarettes, paid-for TV channels and gambling. Today the government launched a new website - Universal Jobmatch – aimed at quickly matching the unemployed to vacancies. Mr Duncan Smith said: ‘Your CV will do the work for you, even when you are sleeping, and notify you that a suitable job has become available.’ He said jobseekers would no longer have to use touch-screens in jobcentres, or wait for a print-out of jobs which had probably already been taken up. ‘If you choose not to take a job that matches you, then the adviser will look at your reasons, and if the adviser thinks “actually, these are pretty specious reasons”, he may call you in and say “I think you really need to be applying for these jobs”.’ Mr Duncan Smith is prepared for a political battle with Labour over the Welfare Benefits Up-rating Bill, which was published today. Chancellor George Osborne claimed in the Commons the one per cent cap was to ensure fairness for those who go to work while their neighbours have their curtains drawn. But Liam Byrne, Labour’s shadow work and pensions secretary, said: ‘The Strivers’ Tax Bill is a naked attack on hard working families to pay the price for this government’s economic failure. ‘I want to bring down the welfare bill. But they way we do that is with jobs. Labour will not support a Bill that does nothing to create a single new job yet punishes those who work. Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2251179/Benefits-limited-buying-bare-essentials-Iain-Duncan-Smith-warns-dangers-giving-claimants-cash.html#ixzz2Fcxvh7VV Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook |
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Mr Duncan Smith said: ‘Your CV will do the work for you, even when you are sleeping,
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What a great job the media have done on you all. Whilst the rich get richer and the poor fall further behind the smoke screen of getting you all to turn on your own class has worked a treat.
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I am quite happy for my CV to go out and work for me as well
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An absolutely poposperous idea. It demonstrates the arrogance of the Torys.
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