do us all a favour, try it

and I know its spelt wrong just like you wired like a broken piano !

Choccy Bickies ? , big X appears on the asda till   

This is one of the sickest things I have read in a long time

If any of you supporters of the above idea spent a little time educating yourselves rather than posting your garbage here...the UK would be a better place

Do any of you know how boring life can be for the unemployed?

I know it and so do many other broadminded educated people like myself......The unemployed need to be given more money so as to be able to enjoy their free time

The whole idea of computerisation was to give the majority of UK citizens more free time and more money to go with it

Think before you post....You know it makes sense

Former Labour MP Margaret Moran, who fiddled her expenses claims to receive more than £53,000 from the taxpayer, has been sentenced to a two year supervision and treatment order.

The 57-year-old, who is suffering from depression, was not at Southwark Crown Court to hear the sentence for herself.

Ms Moran, who represented Luton South for 13 years, claimed nearly her entire annual allowance in one bogus expense entry and forged invoices for more than £20,000 of non-existent goods and services.

The order will be supervised by Southampton City Council.

Judge Mr Justice Saunders admitted that some would believe she had "got away with it".

He said: "There will inevitably be feelings among some that Mrs Moran has 'got away with it'.

"What the court has done and has to do is to act in accordance with the law of the land and on the basis of the evidence that it hears."

The judge said two distinguished psychiatrists instructed by the defence had concluded she was unfit to plead, and a psychiatrist instructed by the prosecution broadly agreed.

"All the evidence in the case was that she was unfit to plead. If I had reached any other conclusion my decision would have been perverse and would inevitably have been successfully appealed."

A jury decided that she did the acts alleged against her, and the defence played little if any part in the hearing.

"The findings of the court were not convictions. Those findings enable me to make orders requiring her to undergo treatment for her mental health."

Dr Simon Kelly, from the Priory Hospital in Southampton, said that he last saw Moran on Tuesday.

"She remains very distressed, very agitated, she is severely ill.

"She is unable really to process information that is presented to her.

"What she seeks today is to recover from her illness and continue to engage in treatment.

"She's living a restricted lifestyle, she's not answered the telephone at home for approximately three years, she goes out very occasionally, to a local supermarket for 30 minutes.

"She recently acquired a terrier cross dog, two years ago, and tends to walk him as well."

She said a newspaper article on November 25 was "deeply distressing to her".

It was reported then that she had been spotted at a pub.

Asked how it had affected her illness, Dr Kelly said: "She experienced panic attacks, nightmares and believes that she is going to be doorstepped at any point."

Asked how she would have reacted if she had to come to court, he said: "She is so sensitised to publicity, this would have been the most difficult place for her to come. I wonder physically whether it would be possible to get her here.

"I don't know whether it would be physically possible to remove her from her home without restraining her."

Jim Sturman, representing Mrs Moran, said: "The more vengeful press, who hound her at her front door, seem to think that the only way someone can be demonstrably mentally ill is if they are in a straitjacket in a padded cell.

"The reports back in April all agree that she suffers from this mental illness.

"Hounding a mentally ill woman is a dangerous and vile thing to do, at any time, particularly post the Leveson conclusions.

"It could have led to an increased risk of suicide.

"There will always be sections of the media who believe it's a huge con. But they've not read all the evidence."

Mr Sturman said he was making these observations on behalf of Mrs Moran's husband.

The judge said the order would be under the supervision of a mental health social worker employed by Southampton City Council, and Mrs Moran would be treated by Dr Kelly, with a view to the improvement of her medical condition.

The judge also said that his rulings were limited to criminal proceedings.

"They do not affect any steps that may be taken through the civil courts to recover any money that Mrs Moran has received to which she was not entitled."

Louis Mably, representing the Crown, said the matter was under consideration.

The light sentence was furiously condemned on Twitter - with many comparing it to the two year jail term by a vandal who scrawled over a Mark Rothko painting at Tate Modern.

@_Jock wrote: "Former MP Margaret Moran sentenced to two-year supervision & treatment order for false expenses claims" Good job she didn't biro a painting."

While der_bluthund asked: " IS that IT? If I had done similar to Margaret Moran I would have been looking at 5 to 10 years inside prison. An MP should get DOUBLE!"

@UK_Resistande said: "2 year supervision order for Margaret Moran the MP who stole thousands from YOU, laughable, they're just blatant with it now."

Moran, of Ivy Road, St Denys, Southampton, was found to have falsely claimed around £60,000 in parliamentary expenses between 2004 and 2008, of which she received £53,000.

She was first elected in 1997 and stood down at the 2010 General Election,

The court heard Moran submitted an invoice for £22,500 in August 2008 - just under the annual maximum expense allowance for an MP - to treat dry rot at her Southampton home, using the money instead to fund "home improvements".

She was able to make the dry rot claim by "flipping" her two homes - changing which property was her second home and therefore allowing her to claim expenses on it.

Moran also changed dates on invoices for the work so that the money would be paid.

One invoice in August 2007 was for £14,805 - apparently for boiler repairs and work on a conservatory in her constituency home in Luton, when it was actually at her house in Southampton, the court heard.

On another fake bill for more than £4,000, address details given for a building firm were those of an elderly couple.

She also claimed more than £2,000 for a landline at her flat when there was no phone line fitted, the jury heard, and for carpet for three bedrooms at her one-bedroom Westminster flat.

Jurors heard that Moran altered addresses to make it look as if she was making legitimate claims for her second home or constituency office, when they were to cover her personal costs.

Moran "abused the scheme", prosecutors said, going as far as to re-submit expenses claims with different descriptions and supportive invoices if they were initially rejected by parliamentary authori shes o/k my fekin moneyyyy

This is one of the sickest things I have read in a long time

Correct.

The usual Tory stupidity.  They seem to believe that the way to motivate people is to further stigmatise them like this.

Pathetic.

The stark reality is that both the economy, the leadership of the modern world and minorites be them addicts or what ever all need help and we are all responsible to help each other and the rest of the work.

Greed, ignorance and malice are just as dangerous and intoxicating, if not more than any manmade substance...

It is pretty short sighted to say the least to put these threads up on a forum based on betting with the word "fair" involved.

Personally I havent met an alocoholic or drug addict that has screwed up a country, an economy, an enviroment
but I have witnessed many so called "clever people" that convince others they have all the answers
while fiddling away under the light of Rome burning....

Spot on BF!

£70 a week, just think how many £70 mp's waste each week.

"She is unable really to process information that is presented to her." 


still qualified as an MP then.

Some of the wealthy have been taking the pee out of the less fortunate for far too long

It is now the time for those ignorant ones to be made to stand up and be counted

For far too long a time some wealthy people have been looking down their noses at the poor and unemployed poulation of the UK

It is no fault of the poor and unemployed that they find themselves in such a dilemma

Those in Government that have done far too little to help those in need are very sick people, those same sick people are paid far too much money for doing far too little

Any MP that is not working flat out to improve the lives of those in need is committing a crime of the highest order

Why do the people of the UK accept the rubbish that government after government pump out to them

Most of us have more knowledge than our ancestors....The internet has opened up a new world that fools can't hide in

I am sickened by what is going on in the modern world of today and I am saddened by the low level of life that many are now living due to mistakes made at the top

I think this idea could be taken further. Basic London bedsits for MPs whose constituencies are more than 50 miles away. Would save us having to buy them 2nd homes.

parliament is full of people who are so busy looking for ways to fill their own pockets and steal more money off the poor it's no wonder they cant find time to actually help the country

Would that be "cunning plans" Rollo Tomasi, as you would then be correct by default!

"Another round of poor bashing is equivelant to the situation in germany 1938 when jewish shops were targeted by
facism campaigners "

Truely breathtaking stupidity.  Someone has actually compared welfare reform to the holocaust.  Shame on you.

Java you seem confused, perhaps its best not to share such notions.

The poor voted (and will keep on voting) for the party that threw them on the scrapheap: Labour.

At least the Tories don't try and hide their hatred of the lower classes.

If you vote for any of them: THEY have you!

Perhaps much haunts the conservatives from past problems and finding them selves at the
helm when they cant steer the ship has led to extra whipping of the less fortunate
shipmates, next will come the reefs and down she will go if new captains
of the ship "enterprise" cant be found.