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By:
corbiewood
When: 21 Dec 12 14:45
Keep up the good work here lads, not long until the ground breaking expose.
By:
AlwaysTravellingBest
When: 22 Dec 12 13:18
Great thread MOTS Love

Anything highlighted today??
By:
3DUCKEGGS
When: 23 Dec 12 15:06
3duckeggs I think you miss the point totally

everyone knows bookies manipulate odds that is their business its what they do

but when some one spots what mots seems to have spotted and can back it up with 120 plus losers on the trot................yes its true i have followed his lays and made a considerable profit there is something to be considered

try opening your mind not just your mouth you may learn that way

take care and have a nice christmas


LaughLaugh Go back and read my post it's you that's missed the point completely, nor have I said anything against the OP, I'm simply bewildered that people are so amazed at what he's said.  Plus I opened my eyes in the early 1990's thanks and explained many methods over 10 years ago how bookies work and it included high profile early price races, so no I will open my mouth thanks.
By:
dibble
When: 24 Dec 12 16:12
since mine was one of the comments quoted by 3DUCKEGGS, I note with interest that I've managed to bewilder him!

so here's the situation:
1. bookies manipulating markets on horses they either know, or suspect won't win
2. our hero spots the signals and wins a lot of money.

my question is whether the bookie has any more info than you or i would have in judging these horses... and if so where are they getting it from? If it's purely bookies reading form and making judgements (and then manipulating the market accordingly to suck in mug-money) then fair enough.

130+ successful lays suggests that there's more info than just judgement involved. I'd still be really interested to see a breakdown of trainer + jockey + owner for each of the horses laid...


if none of that makes any sense and if you're able to spare some precious time, perhaps Mr Egg you could tell me why Happy
By:
Nightfly
When: 24 Dec 12 16:48
Also to add to B365and Laddies fire is the fact that they both sponsor ATR.

Coincidence I doubt it...Interseting stuff MOTS..but am in wholehearted agreement they could be in collusion acting on insider trading
By:
chavman
When: 24 Dec 12 16:53
dempsey and makepeace can stay in retirement then
By:
3DUCKEGGS
When: 24 Dec 12 23:18
my question is whether the bookie has any more info than you or i would have in judging these horses... and if so where are they getting it from? If it's purely bookies reading form and making judgements (and then manipulating the market accordingly to suck in mug-money) then fair enough.

130+ successful lays suggests that there's more info than just judgement
.

What I find bewildering is the shock of this info.  Bewildering if people feel a multi billion pound industry is possibly left a game of change and minds reading form with just a few in built margins for the bookies.  It's not and all the big stables are in bed with bookies and some have been for generations.  It's all there in fronmt of your eyes everyday when you bet or look at prices. All this info released in the press and the twaddle you hear on ATR.  Ninety nine times out of a hundred they are the first to know when it matters in relation to info.  They'd do everything they can to increase their profits, including put aways, false gambles call them what you like.  I could go on but it's all been said before.
By:
comingupthehill
When: 24 Dec 12 23:24
mervyn king the governer of the bank of england hardly ever altered interest rates,his logic being ,dont make rash judgements to the latest figures ,just tread a straight path and let everyone else worry about inflation/jobs etc,

read the form yourself and dont react to markets/gossip etc and you wont go far wrong.
By:
corbiewood
When: 25 Dec 12 09:22
Nightfly     Joined: 09 Oct 02
Replies: 89 24 Dec 12 16:48 
Also to add to B365and Laddies fire is the fact that they both sponsor ATR.

Coincidence I doubt it...Interseting stuff MOTS..but am in wholehearted agreement they could be in collusion acting on insider trading


why would they want to you fool,

ones a PLC and ones a privately run company with totally different business models. Its called offering a service with half arsed early compiling and a copying mentality all underpinned by a lack of confidence in prices.

This collusion theory is utterly laughable.
By:
milesthemouse
When: 25 Dec 12 13:03
I've just wasted an hour of my life reading this thread.  Well back to work watching these kempton lines, The batphone must be busy today as I cant get through.... laughable, well it made me laugh anyway...
By:
Nightfly
When: 25 Dec 12 13:47
the naiveity of punters will get you buried
By:
corbiewood
When: 25 Dec 12 14:04
yep, you sum up this thread well.
By:
northanlite
When: 25 Dec 12 20:44
I read this thread with a certain curiosity but thought the op & others were getting a little X files about the whole thing and their claims seemed unlikely.

Then all of a sudden corbiewood (the ex stazi, bookies stormtrooper) appears calling you all naive,know nothing fools & dismissing your claims as ludicrous. At that point it became obvious you must be on to something Cool
By:
insideinfo
When: 25 Dec 12 22:04
Totally agree northanlite.corbiewood is a gimpp and they aint called Ladcrooks for nothing! If it were ever proven in court that any of these firms had been acting illegally by laying horses that they knew would not win then surely they would have to refund all bets taken on said horses.We just need a test case to set a precedent,would cost them millions upon millions.
By:
corbiewood
When: 26 Dec 12 09:11
insideinfo     25 Dec 12 22:04 
Totally agree northanlite.corbiewood is a gimpp and they aint called Ladcrooks for nothing! If it were ever proven in court that any of these firms had been acting illegally by laying horses that they knew would not win then surely they would have to refund all bets taken on said horses.We just need a test case to set a precedent,would cost them millions upon millions.

Laugh
By:
milesthemouse
When: 26 Dec 12 09:47
Excited   corbiewood is a gimpp
By:
danniellasmincepies
When: 26 Dec 12 10:55
Shocked
By:
PCstar
When: 04 Jan 13 09:13
MOTS have you got the list of horses involved in this scam,know you are in LA at the moment
but they have internet access in the States!
By:
ManOnTheSpot
When: 05 Jan 13 23:22
Back from my holidays guys.

My record now stands at 201 and Laddies are still trying to fool the public
with delaying tactics, the 'caped crusaders' are still working in tandem for
sure.

Laughable isn't the word for 365 holding out the 7/1 for both Well Refreshed
and Newton Tonic in the 255 and 330 Plumpton respectively.

Nearly 2 hours in fact as 11/2 and 5/1 were the best prices available with
their counterparts.

Laddies now running scared of me and thus swerving the 365 feature races as my
portfolio gathers pace and the evidence becomes clearer and clearer everyday.

( I will soon post the full details on here including a 13/2 to 25/1 drift on a marked
horse - a certain Albert Hall - this will have the caped crusaders shaking in their
fragile boots )

I repeat if the 'caped crusaders' are using the 4/1 feature race to create false gambles
on horses that they have information that they will not win are they any different from
jockeys and connections laying non triers ?
By:
PCstar
When: 06 Jan 13 08:12
The genius is back!If the bookies excuse for knocking back the day age arber was the fact
that they could themselves lay a horse shorter on betfair with a lesser liability and these
feature races entice punters to bet at 4/1 or over thus giving them a less chance of winning
and the bookie better chance of minipulating the market they are not trading as the gambling
commission states in a fair and open way.If you have facts that prices at crashing falsely and
it is interesting they never drop lower than 4/1 when they do!They are no better as someone who
lays a horse in the know on betfair when they have information.
By:
Cliftonhill Albion
When: 06 Jan 13 15:06
That's the first one from this thread I've laid.

Cry
By:
Nirnaeth Arnoediad
When: 06 Jan 13 16:10
Ooops Devil
By:
milesthemouse
When: 06 Jan 13 17:28
MOTS cant wait till you take this to the police u utter joker.....  They'll lock you up son.
By:
PCstar
When: 06 Jan 13 22:52
Corbieswood jumps up when Spotty's amazing run comes to an end.
What a clueless clown he or she is.
My take on this is that the bookies got running scared of the
information Spotty has to hand and decided to cover up the false
gamble by contacting the contacts and stables and ensuring both horses
would try at ALL COSTS
Two in one day after 200 correct lays makes me think the bookies like
criminals that face charges turn over a new leaf to convince jury's the
otherwise.What a load of plonkers you lot are on here.
By:
PCstar
When: 06 Jan 13 22:53
milesthemouse and corbieswood the gay cousins in arms
By:
Ell
When: 07 Jan 13 00:57
Well Refreshed has been subject to late gambles before.
18/11 Fontwell 25/1 available with the books 1.5hrs before the race.
They didn't see it coming that day either.
By:
corbiewood
When: 07 Jan 13 07:53
Back to the drawing board ?

have paranoid system , send cash.
By:
PCstar
When: 07 Jan 13 09:42
I received a private message from MOTS this morning.
He will post here around the 20th January,a post that will
turn racing on it's head for the bookmakers.He has 100%
proof not only that 3 pound 65 and Ladcrookes worked together
but since he highlighted on here the scam they have changed their
policies to cover up their actions that bring their licencing under
dispute with regard to the gambling commission.He has legal matters
to sort as the leading nationals will run the story the day after it
appears on here.This is no different to fraudsters who have battered
betting shops for years and have received court orders not to enter
betting shops in England.Many before their hearing are entering betting shops
and acting in a normal and honest way to defend their cases when the date arrives.
MOTS has 96 horses that the caped crusaders have shortened before 6pm the night before
and drifted alarmingly the following morning and on betfair and ran a race that
had deemed stewards investigations,this from April 2012.
By:
Stake & Chips
When: 07 Jan 13 10:00
Shocked
By:
Trusty
When: 07 Jan 13 10:11
1.01 No post on the 20th.
By:
corbiewood
When: 07 Jan 13 11:12
Laugh

new username required.
By:
curious-cat
When: 07 Jan 13 22:39
Is Trusty going to put the heavies in MOTS ?
By:
curious-cat
When: 07 Jan 13 23:06
ON Shocked
By:
PCstar
When: 09 Jan 13 07:20
Corbieswood etc will be made to look fools again who said ladcrookes were gonna buy the purple exchanges,
as in life worth remembering two swallows don't make a summer.
By:
lucylucky
When: 09 Jan 13 08:42
Ladcrooks are in bed with parliament as well as stables. They had a box at Chelts with MPs including Louis Mensch who later introduced legislation to increase FOBT limits in shops?

1.01 nothing happens IF you've gone to the papers etc

why did you make this forum post when you had a sure fire way of knowing what horses lose? ludicrous.
By:
ManOnTheSpot
When: 10 Jan 13 17:00
I have information that for the first time in four weeks laddies will be
first to price up a 365 feature race first.

The 500 Wolverhampton Friday

Followed by a non appearance in the 150 Huntingdon

If you 'caped crusaders' think I was fooled by your two moves
last week ...

THINK AGAIN !
By:
ManOnTheSpot
When: 10 Jan 13 17:24
Laddies will be 'Showboating' a falsie ....
By:
ManOnTheSpot
When: 10 Jan 13 17:32
VC will ensure 365 are in Tommy Cooper land maybe not 'Just like that' but very close ...

At Huntingdon as well 'Gotham City' be warned.
By:
milesthemouse
When: 10 Jan 13 22:11
gay in arms with corbiewood.....   He maybe gay, i have no dount but no me.   Do you honestly believe these companies are making all their money from 2 horses a day u utter, utter clowns... get a grip of reality.............
By:
Pun tang
When: 10 Jan 13 23:14
David Icke phoned. He wants in.
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