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Keep up the good work here lads, not long until the ground breaking expose.
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Great thread MOTS
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3duckeggs I think you miss the point totally
everyone knows bookies manipulate odds that is their business its what they do but when some one spots what mots seems to have spotted and can back it up with 120 plus losers on the trot................yes its true i have followed his lays and made a considerable profit there is something to be considered try opening your mind not just your mouth you may learn that way take care and have a nice christmas ![]() Go back and read my post it's you that's missed the point completely, nor have I said anything against the OP, I'm simply bewildered that people are so amazed at what he's said. Plus I opened my eyes in the early 1990's thanks and explained many methods over 10 years ago how bookies work and it included high profile early price races, so no I will open my mouth thanks. |
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since mine was one of the comments quoted by 3DUCKEGGS, I note with interest that I've managed to bewilder him!
so here's the situation: 1. bookies manipulating markets on horses they either know, or suspect won't win 2. our hero spots the signals and wins a lot of money. my question is whether the bookie has any more info than you or i would have in judging these horses... and if so where are they getting it from? If it's purely bookies reading form and making judgements (and then manipulating the market accordingly to suck in mug-money) then fair enough. 130+ successful lays suggests that there's more info than just judgement involved. I'd still be really interested to see a breakdown of trainer + jockey + owner for each of the horses laid... if none of that makes any sense and if you're able to spare some precious time, perhaps Mr Egg you could tell me why ![]() |
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Also to add to B365and Laddies fire is the fact that they both sponsor ATR.
Coincidence I doubt it...Interseting stuff MOTS..but am in wholehearted agreement they could be in collusion acting on insider trading |
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dempsey and makepeace can stay in retirement then
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my question is whether the bookie has any more info than you or i would have in judging these horses... and if so where are they getting it from? If it's purely bookies reading form and making judgements (and then manipulating the market accordingly to suck in mug-money) then fair enough.
130+ successful lays suggests that there's more info than just judgement. What I find bewildering is the shock of this info. Bewildering if people feel a multi billion pound industry is possibly left a game of change and minds reading form with just a few in built margins for the bookies. It's not and all the big stables are in bed with bookies and some have been for generations. It's all there in fronmt of your eyes everyday when you bet or look at prices. All this info released in the press and the twaddle you hear on ATR. Ninety nine times out of a hundred they are the first to know when it matters in relation to info. They'd do everything they can to increase their profits, including put aways, false gambles call them what you like. I could go on but it's all been said before. |
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mervyn king the governer of the bank of england hardly ever altered interest rates,his logic being ,dont make rash judgements to the latest figures ,just tread a straight path and let everyone else worry about inflation/jobs etc,
read the form yourself and dont react to markets/gossip etc and you wont go far wrong. |
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Nightfly Joined: 09 Oct 02
Replies: 89 24 Dec 12 16:48 Also to add to B365and Laddies fire is the fact that they both sponsor ATR. Coincidence I doubt it...Interseting stuff MOTS..but am in wholehearted agreement they could be in collusion acting on insider trading why would they want to you fool, ones a PLC and ones a privately run company with totally different business models. Its called offering a service with half arsed early compiling and a copying mentality all underpinned by a lack of confidence in prices. This collusion theory is utterly laughable. |
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I've just wasted an hour of my life reading this thread. Well back to work watching these kempton lines, The batphone must be busy today as I cant get through.... laughable, well it made me laugh anyway...
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the naiveity of punters will get you buried
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yep, you sum up this thread well.
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I read this thread with a certain curiosity but thought the op & others were getting a little X files about the whole thing and their claims seemed unlikely.
Then all of a sudden corbiewood (the ex stazi, bookies stormtrooper) appears calling you all naive,know nothing fools & dismissing your claims as ludicrous. At that point it became obvious you must be on to something ![]() |
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Totally agree northanlite.corbiewood is a gimpp and they aint called Ladcrooks for nothing! If it were ever proven in court that any of these firms had been acting illegally by laying horses that they knew would not win then surely they would have to refund all bets taken on said horses.We just need a test case to set a precedent,would cost them millions upon millions.
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insideinfo 25 Dec 12 22:04
Totally agree northanlite.corbiewood is a gimpp and they aint called Ladcrooks for nothing! If it were ever proven in court that any of these firms had been acting illegally by laying horses that they knew would not win then surely they would have to refund all bets taken on said horses.We just need a test case to set a precedent,would cost them millions upon millions. ![]() |
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corbiewood is a gimpp |
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MOTS have you got the list of horses involved in this scam,know you are in LA at the moment
but they have internet access in the States! |
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Back from my holidays guys.
My record now stands at 201 and Laddies are still trying to fool the public with delaying tactics, the 'caped crusaders' are still working in tandem for sure. Laughable isn't the word for 365 holding out the 7/1 for both Well Refreshed and Newton Tonic in the 255 and 330 Plumpton respectively. Nearly 2 hours in fact as 11/2 and 5/1 were the best prices available with their counterparts. Laddies now running scared of me and thus swerving the 365 feature races as my portfolio gathers pace and the evidence becomes clearer and clearer everyday. ( I will soon post the full details on here including a 13/2 to 25/1 drift on a marked horse - a certain Albert Hall - this will have the caped crusaders shaking in their fragile boots ) I repeat if the 'caped crusaders' are using the 4/1 feature race to create false gambles on horses that they have information that they will not win are they any different from jockeys and connections laying non triers ? |
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The genius is back!If the bookies excuse for knocking back the day age arber was the fact
that they could themselves lay a horse shorter on betfair with a lesser liability and these feature races entice punters to bet at 4/1 or over thus giving them a less chance of winning and the bookie better chance of minipulating the market they are not trading as the gambling commission states in a fair and open way.If you have facts that prices at crashing falsely and it is interesting they never drop lower than 4/1 when they do!They are no better as someone who lays a horse in the know on betfair when they have information. |
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That's the first one from this thread I've laid.
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MOTS cant wait till you take this to the police u utter joker..... They'll lock you up son.
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Corbieswood jumps up when Spotty's amazing run comes to an end.
What a clueless clown he or she is. My take on this is that the bookies got running scared of the information Spotty has to hand and decided to cover up the false gamble by contacting the contacts and stables and ensuring both horses would try at ALL COSTS Two in one day after 200 correct lays makes me think the bookies like criminals that face charges turn over a new leaf to convince jury's the otherwise.What a load of plonkers you lot are on here. |
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milesthemouse and corbieswood the gay cousins in arms
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Well Refreshed has been subject to late gambles before.
18/11 Fontwell 25/1 available with the books 1.5hrs before the race. They didn't see it coming that day either. |
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Back to the drawing board ?
have paranoid system , send cash. |
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I received a private message from MOTS this morning.
He will post here around the 20th January,a post that will turn racing on it's head for the bookmakers.He has 100% proof not only that 3 pound 65 and Ladcrookes worked together but since he highlighted on here the scam they have changed their policies to cover up their actions that bring their licencing under dispute with regard to the gambling commission.He has legal matters to sort as the leading nationals will run the story the day after it appears on here.This is no different to fraudsters who have battered betting shops for years and have received court orders not to enter betting shops in England.Many before their hearing are entering betting shops and acting in a normal and honest way to defend their cases when the date arrives. MOTS has 96 horses that the caped crusaders have shortened before 6pm the night before and drifted alarmingly the following morning and on betfair and ran a race that had deemed stewards investigations,this from April 2012. |
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1.01 No post on the 20th.
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Is Trusty going to put the heavies in MOTS ?
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Corbieswood etc will be made to look fools again who said ladcrookes were gonna buy the purple exchanges,
as in life worth remembering two swallows don't make a summer. |
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Ladcrooks are in bed with parliament as well as stables. They had a box at Chelts with MPs including Louis Mensch who later introduced legislation to increase FOBT limits in shops?
1.01 nothing happens IF you've gone to the papers etc why did you make this forum post when you had a sure fire way of knowing what horses lose? ludicrous. |
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I have information that for the first time in four weeks laddies will be
first to price up a 365 feature race first. The 500 Wolverhampton Friday Followed by a non appearance in the 150 Huntingdon If you 'caped crusaders' think I was fooled by your two moves last week ... THINK AGAIN ! |
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Laddies will be 'Showboating' a falsie ....
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VC will ensure 365 are in Tommy Cooper land maybe not 'Just like that' but very close ...
At Huntingdon as well 'Gotham City' be warned. |
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gay in arms with corbiewood..... He maybe gay, i have no dount but no me. Do you honestly believe these companies are making all their money from 2 horses a day u utter, utter clowns... get a grip of reality.............
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David Icke phoned. He wants in.
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