Paulbu,thanks,you will be right,it's coming back to me now and i'm not sure whether the horse ever won for them.

Re Tim Brookshaw. . Passage from an interview with Sir Mark Prescott B.T.
Having learned to impress one of the local Devon lasses,Prescott was dragged along to Newton Abbott one afternoon,aged 12,and much to his surprise came away with his career path mapped out clearly for him.
He remembers  "We parked down at the last fence and because i was too small to see over the top of it ,all i could hear as they approached was the shouting and the cracking of whips,and this chestnut thing hurtled over in the lead,did a somersault and came crashing down right on top of its jockey Tim Brookshaw.The horse finlly dragged itself up and cantered off,and the jockey who was obviously dead,rose to his feet and said "****g Hell" and threw his stick down."And i thought  what a man,and from that day he became my hero and i never wanted to do anything else"

GEOFF OLDROYD.  In the mid sixties iwas in my second stint with Pat Rohan  at Grove Cottage stables Malton,and our apprentice was Geoff Oldroyd, doing pretty well training at the moment. This story is woven round him . There are many unsung heroes that i have worked with in the years i spent in racing,names the public never knew, great pilots who never got a ride,spent their life in the shadows, Stable lads who could sit on anything,they used to say the horse could only get rid of them if it got down and rolled. One of those i knew
was "Bradford Bill" worked for Rufus Beasley and when i knew him for Pat Rohan.  He is a part of this story too if he is sitting in a pub in Malton tonight i send my regards. At the time "Bradford Bill" looked after a 2-y-o black filly called Saulisa and i looked after a 2.y-o filly called Pately Bridge,both had never ran. It was April ,in those days gallop mornings on the Langton wolds were Tuesday and Friday, the other days were mainly cantering mornings nothing serious. None of these 2-y-o s had ever been seriously worked and i was itching to find out how good they were. The only problem was as i was over 9st.7lbs at the time i was always "jocked" off when it was "Trying Time" One Thursday  a plan was hatched, Pat Rohan was away,we had to go to the gallops and give them a strong canter no more than "half-speed" and not to let them down in anyway. There was a 3yo sprinter with us, had won one or two races,the three of us dropped back when they started cantering we let them go a furlong ,on the gallop they used to call the "Ponty" resembled Pontefract uphill left handed. We went racing pace and both 2-y-o caught the 3-y-o, pretty  good as we were all carrying within 7lbs the same weight. We knew that these two unraced 2-y-o were pretty smart and we knew that apart from three people ,us, no one else did. Two weeks later Saulisa turns up at Newmarket ,I had plenty on, it hoses up first time out,i now have plenty for the other 2-y-o when they decide to run her. I checked the entries iam told The "Flyover" filly (Pately Bridge) will run at Thirsk on Saturday Geof Oldroyd  the apprentice will ride. On the Friday night as Pat Rohan was doing his rounds, he came into the fillys box ran his hands down her front legs and asked me "How is she?Not wanting too give too much away iasked "is she worth a "fiver" tomorrow guvernor. another way of asking was she "Off"  His reply was NO.NO she is backward need a couple of races at least. Hence next morning too my dismay the Blacksmith did not put her light weight plates on ,just left the heavy shoes on. That day we are at Thirsk, a huge field of 2-y-o, we were 33-1 in the eary betting 50-1 in places.  I turned my filly in Pat Rohan legged Geoff Oldroyd up and i turned to Geoff and asked "What are your orders" "Win if i can but  dont knock her about" was his reply.  Good enough for me i thought, with that i dropped my rug to the ground ,two people in the crowd had been waiting for that rug to fall. They were on there way with my 3OO Pounds ,they backed it too win just under14,000 pounds. Iwas just about to let the filly out onto the track when one got loose in the parade ring and we all had too do another turn. Half way round before i could let her go ,Pat Rohan ,red in the face and out of breath, raced up too us,grabbed Geoffs whip off him  and then grabbed the reins from me,he had been in the ring and seen it drop from 50-1 to 2nd fav around 7s. we had been rumbled. The filly went on too finish second of twenty five,"tenderley ridden" one paper stated.  That loose horse, that extra turn in the paddock had cost a lad earning 7 pounds a week at the time pretty dear. The aftermath of the story was Pately Bridge was too win next time out at Chester Russ Maddock up short priced favourite. Saulisa proved very smart 2-y-o winning several decent races, She was also the dam of a useful horse I think Michael Stoute trained,i cant remember its name ,maybe Whitwhitlaw wonderful records could help me out. As for me i never rode another gallop again for Pat Rohan i moved on again shortly after.

guardamar - great story. Was Avahra at Pat Rohan's when you were there? I remember reading he was a useful handicapper who was used as a yardstick for 2yo's.

Saulisa indeed produced a few good ones, The best of them probably were -

Music Maestro - a good sprinter trained by Michael Stoute, beat Amaranda in the Flying Childers at 2, and won the Group 3 sprint at Goodwood at 3 (King George). Wasn't far off being champion sprinter (in a not very good year).
Saulingo - who won the Temple Stakes at Sandown. I think Daivd Robinson owned him
Outer Circle - a good 2yo filly who won the Princess Margaret at Ascot at 2.

guardamar - If you were with Pat Rohan with Saulisa and Pateley Bridge then you must know jockey Eric Bromilow. Also re Frank Carr, if you left in early 1965, then that is two or three years before John Banks had horses with him.

onlooker - I've just seen your post on the other thread, yes I'm back.

paulbu.I had to leave Frank in the early days, not out of choice,money and wage bill big problem, never a problem for me would move on to keep show on the road. Regards  John Banks and dates, cannot be sure of the year,but if You or Whitwhitlaw could trace the horse Malora running for Frank at Newcastle in a Hurdle race,Johhny Blair up.(subject of previous post) then i was still with Frank. I know that by 1968 i Had Three betting offices, One in Sheffild,one in Eckington North Derbyshire and my first near Retford .Notts. so i know i was not with him in 1968. Regards Eric Bromilow, came from Warrinton. Great Pilot,How he used to stay on Tin Whistle god only knows,great big powerful horse caught me a broadside one day ,nearly knocked me to North Grimston. Tin Whistle theres another story. Ask Eric who will no doubt remember,the day that Pat Rohan did them all. That day at the May meeting at York,when all the boys had gone to the races,unknown to them Pat had loaded up Tin Whistle when all the lads had gone home in the morning,only the box driver took the horse to the races. It wasnt until it walked into the paddock(Additional Runners those days) that Eric and the lads realised it was Tin Whistle,"Too late was the cry" Pat Rohan had already got his money on, only pickings left, pretty sure Lester Piggott was up (sharp guy Pat Rohan,you had to be up early in the morning to catch him)
If memory serves me well, Eric had a betting office somewhere near Bridlington in later years. remember him courting Pretty Blonde girl called Christine, in the 60s

Paul..good to have you back safe

A few jottings re above

1960

It has been a poor Royal Ascot so far for Lester Piggott, but things take a distinctly upward turn when he has three winners. First up is Tin Whistle, trained by Pat Rohan, in the Cork and Orrery. They readily get the better of Josh Gifford on Sovereign Path. This

was the middle leg of a

hat-trick for Tin Whistle, who went on to have a walkover in the July Cup when his sole intended opponent, Sing Sing, was discovered to have symptoms of concussion on the morning of the race and was later found to have been got at. Piggott's other two wins come on New Move for

Peter Walwyn in the Chesham and Sunny Way for Noel Murless in the Bessborough. He also rides two seconds.
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From RP 1999..


RACING: Branston Lucy celebrated her escape from serious injury in a frightening accident earlier in the week by gaining her first success in the September Nursery Handicap at Redcar yesterday.

The daughter of Prince Sabo took up the running over a furlong out, and was driven out by Robert Winston to beat Tick Tock by a length with Mike the Spud in third.

She is owned by David Abell and is trained for him at Malton by Tim Etherington who is still furious over the incident, which could have cost the filly her life.

He explained: "She was walking down the road when a tractor and trailer came towards her but refused to move over and give her a wide berth and it frightened her.

"She went down on the road and then unshipped her lad and then galloped loose about half a mile back to the stable yard. I could not believe it when I saw her but I managed to catch her and calm her down."

Etherington went on: "But all credit to Eric Bromilow who was riding her and came straight back and got on her, and my head lad Les Hart, who patched her up, that she has come through it.

"I nearly did not run her, but it is a funny old game 'cos now she had gone and given us our first winner for three months. It has been a combination of the horses not being right and being of moderate ability."

should read 1957

Paulbu Thank you for that date ,that was the first horse Frank had from John Banks,so sometime shortly before that date it arrived,

Brilliant thread lads, keep up the good work.

Paulbu. Thanks for that update Re. Ernie Davey. Regards Alan Horrocks he started with Frank Carr,he must have had his indentures transferred to Ernie Davey. I led up the horse that gave Alan his first winner, it was a 2-y-o filly called  "Breakthrough" at Hamilton Park if i remember it was a Three Horse race he was outsider of the three. Not 100% sure of those details,but think they are about right dont know if you have the ol.d records Alan came from Whitefield near Manchester ,not far from where i came from.

guardamar, do you remember the occasion at Musselburgh when a horse unseated his rider at the start and commenced to gallop the wrong way round ? When he arrived in front of the stand, he stopped right in front of me, and I was in two minds as to whether I should be a hero and duck under the rails and take hold of his reins, but before I could act  he spotted the other horses coming down the straight , and decided to canter off and join them. The upshot was that he cannoned into Geoff Oldroyd's mount about a furlong from the finishing line, and left Oldroyd with a broken ankle, as I recollect. This would be in the late sixties, maybe early seventies .....

Ernie Davey. While we speak of this yard and all the jockeys he had, a word about one of his stable lads. I knew this lad always great company,looked more like a solicitor than a "lad" think it was the glasses he wore(his brother was an optician) might have been the reason. Spent some good times in Scarborough, stayed at his mothers house,in the night clubs Saturday, Sunday dinner at his mums didnt get much better,then back to Malton on Sunday evening. Never saw him for a good few years, One day found myself in Beverley. Just through the castle wall,behind a pub ,was his yard. Think they called it The Kings Head i met up with my old friend.
After talking over old times ,he said i will show you round. He had about 15 Horses at the time. The last box he came too, he opened the door, and there stood a Lovely big chestnut horse,looked out of place compared to the others and with a twinkle in his eye said " This is my "Golden Goose" twice a year ,i will have the lot on this lad,he wont let me down.
He was always a bit smart my friend,but his Golden Goose and he parted not too long after. My friend Geoff Toft and the chestnut was to join Sir Henry Cecil, " Eclipse" and all as they say thats History.

Epsom June 6 1973. Sea Pigeon

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H.J. (JOHNNY) GREENAWAY. and SAM HALL, took the time to look back at this Wonderful Thread and the great contributions from so many of you,had to make sure idid not double up on stories as i did with Tin Whistle thanks Paulbu my apoligies. Any tales as most  will be my personal recolections. This is the very last Malton Thread (i know i said that the last time)
I spent a year with Capt Elsey in the sixties. At the time they  had Two Yards the Main yard and the Farm side.I worked at the farm side.
The head lad at that time was "Sandy" Tierney, amongst the lads were Charlie Booth and Brian Murray both later to "Train" I arrived in the Christmas time and all the yearlings had been grabbed, Only the "Rags" were left. I found myself looking after one of the rags. Bay filly By Rockafella--Youll be lucky . She was a placid thing no trouble to break ,always half a sleep. At Elseys those days we had what nowadays might be descibed as the "Mark JOHNSON  syndrome but this was 50 years ago. 120 HORSES all coming up in batches, just too complicated. Ten runners or more every Saturday, didnt know where you were. By April this filly,by now had a name "Take A Chance" had shown me nothing  i was only one to have ever ridden her. Went to York for a 2-y-0 decent Maiden. Edward Hide was on the stable first choice, i think, and Johnny Greenaway was on mine.  Sam Hall had the short priced favorite "Convoys" ridden by Joe Sime. As i let her go she half ambled away as she always did i feared the worst. I turned back and as i crossed the paddock the burly ,trilby on one side figure of Sam Hall approached.  "Your filly do you fancy her?"

"No ,not much  Cant get out of her own way" i replied.  "Dont be sure son ,I trained the mother, never did a tap at home differnt when she saw a racecourse. He did, the mother was called "  Youll be lucky " the "CATCHPRASE of its owner breeder known to all who listened to the radio in the 50s Mr Al Read.  I walked round to the ring there was plenty of 50-1 to be had, As much as i respected Sam Hall he was well out this time i was sure. my money stayed firmly in my pocket. "There off" the commentator  announced . No mention of mine wasnt wrong i thought. Inside the last 2furlongs Take a chance was making headway,i couldnt believe it. She wins four lenghts Johnny never moved. Only time one ever got under the "Radar" in all the years i was in racing. S.P. returned. 33-1   i was as sick as a parrott. i couldnt say i hadnt been warned,that made it worse ,Damm that Sam Hall. The filly returned to York three weeks after Edward up sluices in again, Ran in the Champagne at Doncaster against the colts, Hardicanute and company,bit out of her depth, finished winning a good nursery at Newmarket ,beat Air Marshall( Jeremy Tree ,Jimmy LindleyWas rated top filly in the Northern Free Handicap for that year. About a stone behind the best of her generation . She won the Galtrey Stakes at York as a three year old. By that time as my way ,i had moved on.

paulbu

just been reading about jumbo Wilkinson, remember many years ago at catterick 5 of us there, coming to the last race all doing our money when one of them says were all in trouble Ronnie we need a winner, I said so do I lads but I think one of jumbos will win the last, so we all backed it and it won easy, all in a good mood in the car going home just got past scotch corner had the radio on and it came over it had been disqualified as it failed to weigh in, 4 of us had all been paid out but guess which one of us had it on the account with john Joyce. Trying the think of the name of the horse think it was reamac.

p.s they did not pay the money back

paulbu

I cant remember it was either the new years eve or new years day meeting, thought this is a great start to the new year!!

regards Ronnie

ribero

does the horse reamac ring a bell with you, by the way if you put it on in 73 i hope it was ur dad that put it on cause you wouldnt be old enough if ur the same age as me!!

see you at the paddy power I hope its better for me than the showcase, cause i left most of my flat winnings that i won off you at York there.

regards Ronnie

Paulbuu. I did say in my post top rated filly, i think these four you mentioned may have all been colts.  As i said in one of my original posts i rarely stayed that long in any yard, those were the days when you could make Twenty Phone calls and get twenty jobs,i enjoyed the freedom and always " Marched to my own drummer" as i said no regrets,some great memories.