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Another trainer who regularly used to avail himself of the 'lightweight'services of Norman McIntosh was Tommy Shedden.
The form book is littered with instances of big priced winners, carrying around 7st for the Shedden/ McIntosh combination at the smaller northern tracks. |
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Great memories Paul.
I remember Kulumidza quite well. I see he won at Catterick under John Lowe 33/1 Sep.30 1967. |
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john lowe, now is a boot seller.
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Whats Dennis Mckay doing now.?,i think he won the Lincoln two consecutive years as well.
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Paulbu, The knowledge you keep imparting on here about events that originated
? donkey's years ago, is it from memory or books about racing that you have,? I am nearly 80 and cannot remember 1% of the stuff you post about, I very impressed, keep it up. |
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TambourineMan 1967 is a season or two too early for John Lowe to be riding winners, especially for outside stables.
Are you sure it wasn't L Love(7). |
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Miprixabloater, I visited northern racecourses for flat meetings two or three times a week between 1967 and 1976 and I've kept all the racecards. Maybe if I had gone less frequently I might have got a first class honours degree instead a two-one. My stories about events on racecourses are from my recollections of events as I witnessed them and I do recall a lot general data on jockeys, trainers etc. However, I do have the odd form book or two.
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My eyes are dim ...you're quite right Paul.
Do you remember Dennis Leah...the only reference I can find is that he was Lindsay Charnocks's mentor...he recommended him to Denys Smith. Skiptomalou posted he won the November Handicap but I'm sure it wasn't the Manchester/Donny version. These things perplex me...I know get a life. I think Peter Hetherington could have done better...but I think he chose to stay up North....he rode around 50 winners a year in his prime which was pretty good for a Northern jock. |
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I've never heard of Dennis Leah ( heard of Dennis Leahtharby, lol) and he certainly didn't win the November Handicap.
Talking again of Denys Smith, I read a story in the racing press some forty five years ago that when Denys heard that Doug Smith was retiring, he decided that it would be a unique achievement to be able to read in the form book, a winner trained by D Smith and ridden by D Smith. He entered a horse that was well above selling class in a seller, engaged Doug Smith to ride and it won at 7-1. To make sure that there was little interest at the subsequent auction, the trainer bandaged all four legs. I don't know the date, course, or horses name, I only know that it was around 1966/7 but I can't seem to find it in the 1967 form book. My 1966 form book went down the local stream in 2000. Any ideas ? |
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another name from the past Francis Arrowsmith rode Lochsong to win the ayr gold Cup.
What happened to him? |
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i remember him mister e..he was a 7lb claimer when he rode her to a lot of her big wins...
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Today's birthday is GEE ARMYTAGE, born 10 Sept 1965. She is the daughter of trainer Roddy and jockey Susan and has an older brother jockey Marcus. Gee rode 75 winners, two at the Cheltenham Festival (THE ELLIER - Kim Muir and GEE-A - Mildmay Of Flete) before a long standing back injury forced her retirement She rode in the National just once, pulling up on GEE-A at the 26th (1988).The plan was for her and her brother Marcus to both ride in the 1990 National and become the first brother and sister to do so, but she broke her leg a week before and the plan fell through.She had no luck at Aintree, Her one ride in the Foxhunters finished fourth and she injured her ankle when her mount in the 1987 Topham (SHORT RATE, trainer P.Nelson)refused.Later she took a job as PA for A.P.McCoy.
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TambourineMan, Peter Hetherington was only with Ernie Weymes for a couple of seasons. He was stable jockey during 68/9 and then suddenly disappeared from the northern scene with Geoff Oldroyd riding most of Weymes runners from the start of 1970 season. I don't know the reason for this, he had ridden a good few winners in those two seasons. It could have been weight problems or he might have received a better offer from abroad.
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Ged, I was at Warwick and backed Hunters Treasure under Bob Davies when she made her debut over hurdles, she soon became my favorite horse, as you say rattling up that sequence. E Wilson rode her, then George Cadwalader (E Cousins stable flat jockey) switched codes to ride her, winning on ITV at Doncaster. She was finally beaten by Coral Diver in a Champion Hurdle trial at Newbury, I remember watching on BBC, it must have been Henessey day.
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i also fondly remember gee , a fine looking woman as well as a good lady jockey ...marcus armytage gave one of the most underrated ride ever given to a national winner ..he was simply superb ....
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Paulbu, any info on R.J.(Jock) Ferguson,70's i think he was apprenticed to Harry Wragg, he won on my mothers horse at Haydock for Deryck Bastiman.He rode the ebor favourite for Wragg that year and finished 4th or 5th. It was the first year that Deryck had a flat licence. Alan Horrocks was signed up as stable jockey and he was an ex Ernie Davey apprentice. I'm useless at remembering years, but my Dad and i were always at northern meeetings in the 60s to 8o's.
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tommysmum - I only saw her on TV - on Saturday ITV racing I guess. I think I remember her beating Ard Macha in one race, a horse of Fulke Walwyn's. I think one of the TV races might have been Warwick - I have an image in my head of her bounding away in front - it was definitely a left-handed track. I've tried searching for her on the web but can't find much. She was a decent 4th in the Scottish Champion Hurdle in 1971 as a 5yo (ridden by Graham Thorner) - had Major Rose and Persian War behind her, though I doubt either ran to their best there. She did less well in the Fighting Fifth later in November '71, finishing 7th, ridden by J Enright (WA Stephenson's jockey?). Even Keel was 1 place in front of her. Denys Smith's Dondieu won both races.
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Snitram, Jock Ferguson was apprenticed to Tom Jones at Newmarket but in 1969 he started to secure a lot of rides for northern trainers in handicaps with his useful 5lb allownace. I had a one seventh share in a horse that was syndicated to a group who worked at ICI Billingham, I was at Leeds Uni but my best pal worked at ICI and he talked me into a share. The horse only cost 150 gns and the training fees at Jack Calvert's were a few quid per month per share. The horse proved to be ueless as a 2-y-o but on about its fifth outing as a 3-y-o it ran third in a three horse handicap at Teesside Park on a Monday night, not beaten too far under Cliff Parkes. After the race, Jack said to us, she's in at Ponte in a seller on Friday night and if she runs like that, she could win. The handicapper at Teesside that night, Major Swannell had the horse rated as 8lb worse in than the Ponte handicapper, Mr Meredith, so along with Laurie Love's claim, that was 15lb. I got a surprise in the Friday morning 'Life' when I saw R.J. Ferguson (7) as the jockey but I also saw a miserable forecast SP. At the track the horse opened up at around 8-1 and drifted to 20s, not a penny for it apart from our few quid. In the race, the odds on favourite whipped round at the starting gate and was left and our horse came through up the hill under Ferguson to win going away. It cost a few quid to keep her at the auction, but not too much. Jack found another three runner handicap for her but we sold her in the Autumn for a small profit. We can both say that Ronnie (Jock) Ferguson has ridden a winner for us.
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Good story, Paulbu
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Paul.....no luck finding Denys/Doug Smith in 1966 Form Book......old faves like Spring Cabbage,Crosby Don
Showmans Fair and Le Garcon D'Or. brought back fond memories. |
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Paulbu, saying about Jack Calvert reminds me of the day Move Off won the Ebor, we,d had the word it would go well so we backed it Ante-post starting about 20s and on the day 100/8 i think,My dad and i had it off it was ridden by Jimmy Bleasdale (3) claim and i think it survived a 12 minute stewards enquiry.
The horse that Ferguson rode for us he rode it at Ponte next time out and ran away with him, Dad was non too pleased, all was well as Willie Carson won on her at Ponte. Happy days |
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TambourineMan, thanks for trying, I'm sure that I haven't dreamt it. Crosby Don, another of Jack Calvert's. Backed it in the mud at York, last race, May 1968, 100-7 I think. Good old H.J.G.
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Whatever happened to the very good apprentice A.Beech,he rode plenty of winners in the 90s.?
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This from 2010
JOHNNY GREENAWAY is 88, but he doesn't look it - rather more like his late 70s. In fact, he was reluctant to give his age, but as he recounted his journey through life, from London to Newmarket, through war-torn France and finally to Malton in North Yorkshire, he had to admit that he was born in 1922, only four years after the end of the First World War. For 30 years the name of HJ Greenaway was a familiar one on number-boards on tracks staging Flat racing in the north and Scotland, and although more than a generation has passed since he retired from riding, he still goes racing, and is still as cheerful as ever. Born in London, Greenaway first flirted with racing in the 1930s. He recalls: "I was working at Greenwich, and because I was so small, one of my colleagues suggested I became a jockey. He knew someone in Newmarket, and though there was no vacancy there, I got a job with RJ [Jack] Colling. I hadn't been there long before the Second World War began and racing was curtailed, so I went back home. "After being evacuated to Banbury, I received my call-up papers. I wanted to be an air gunner, but I was turned down for that, and I went into radar, tracking the planes. Of course I knew nothing about it, so I had to go back to 'school' to learn. "At this time we were preparing for the D-Day invasion, and I was on the Normandy beaches with my airsupport unit two days after D-Day itself, and ended up in a small village outside Strasbourg waiting to cross the Rhine into Germany." After being demobbed he continued his quest to become a jockey, and ended up in Malton. "I was offered a job with Ernie Street, but he didn't promise me any rides," Greenaway says. "By then I was too old to be an apprentice so I couldn't claim, but I got what I could. My first winner was at Newcastle for a man called Greenshields, who trained near there. I soon went freelance, but I was married with a son, so times were hard. I was 7st 1lb in those days so got the lightweight rides. "Gradually I got going and I must have ridden for nearly every trainer in the north, including Captain [Charles] Elsey and Rufus Beasley and for a long time I was with Jack Calvert at Hambleton. "A car crash eventually forced me to finish. A lorry pulled out straight in front of me and I had no chance, and suffered bad injuries to my chest. Although I rode again, I'd lost my edge and I called it a day when I was 53. "I won about 600 races in all, including the Manchester November Handicap [on Dalnamein for Sam Hall in 1960] and Gosforth Park Cup, and was third on Cold Storage in Ribero's St Leger. One of the best horses I rode was Tanavar for Captain Elsey. He was a stayer, but a strong puller, and I got the ride because he settled for me. "In winter we had great fun going to India, riding in Bombay as it was then, and Madras. When I finished I had a business in Malton, and started another in Guernsey, which didn't go too well, and I moved to York 20 years ago. "Nowadays I live a quiet life. I go racing to York and Thirsk, and have seven grandchildren who pop in and see me when they can. "When I go racing Frankie always comes up and shakes my hand - I met him at a charity function a few years ago - and Brough Scott always has a word. Racing has been very good to me." |
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Here's the Mirror Rcecard from 1970.
http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/incoming/article8314.ece/BINARY/Gentleman+Jim+Plans+To+Go+On+Forever |
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Snitmar, talking of Deryk Bastiman, a board marker in a betting shop in Leeds used to work nights at the local telephone exchange as an operator. He always used to listen in to the conversations when people were asking to be connected to a Coverdale number (Middleham exchange) or Wetherby, Tadcaster etc. One night in Spring 1972, he tuned in to a chat between Deryk Bastiman and either Willie Carson or his agent (if they existed in those days). Carson was up at Thirsk on the Saturday to ride a few for Van Cutsem and Deryk wanted Willie to partner Singing Scot in the sprint handicap. Deryk was saying how the horse was right with ground to suit and could Willie do 7-7. 'Near enough' was the reply so Carson got the ride. In a desperate finish The Diddler and Singing Scot went passed together, with the former given first in the photo roll call. As it turned out, Willie got it by a short head so his 2lb overweight didn't matter. Carson was mustard in those days riding at less than 8st, very stong for his weight.
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Great memories Tambourine man, got any more.?, or is there a website i can go to so as to look at old racecards.thanks.
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Reculver
Sorry I landed on that site by accident Googling something else. I think most Papers have archived copies but I think they want a few quid a month to look. |
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johnny greenaway was having his few quid on at thirsk on saturday,talking of bastiman he used to have his stables in our village and the "lads" were always in the pub at night including a chippy d.nicholls,remember him beating lester in a close finish on a horse called ruddy drake at yarmouth i think,it was owned by reg spencer of night nurse fame.bastiman used to target yarmouth a lot.
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Ribero, the horse was Ruddy Duck, she used to drop herself out last and come with a late run, won at Stockton once, she was owned by Reg Spencer. They had a horse that always ran well at Yarmouth called Carribean Boy, i dont know if he won 5 races there, when you get old like me you forget.I do remember having a touch on a 2yr filly at thirsk called Bala Girl, i was going to back it but the board price was 33/1, i thought it wasnt off so i just stuck a tenner on, it p*****d up
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thanks snitram,remember carribean boy,i'm sure it was owned by a leeds businessman who liked a few quid on,can't remember his name though.
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Caribbean Boy owner G Berry, backed for Yarmouth handicap one day from 14s to 4s with David Nichols up.
Won 6 races there. |
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Bala Girl, saw it win at Catterick mid 70s, 33-1. A friend of mine had a part share in a horse in the same race which was tailed off. They thought it would be placed at least.
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Bala Girl, in the days of the old tote daily double, my dad wasnt there but i think we had 5 tickets on it, you then had to go and select the next leg, i'm sure that (Ribero made me remember when he mentioned Reg Spencer)Night Nurse was in the second leg, it was a flat race not jumps
i think we got it, but it was a long time ago. |
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Reg Spencer won a race on the card after Bala Girl with Opal Gulf, trained by Frank Carr and ridden by Clive Eccleston who also partnered Bala Girl.
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thanks paulbu,nearly certain he was in the carpet game,talking of reg spencer it was strange how he suddenley got out of the game as he was pretty successful with his horses and went racing regularly,he was an estate agent in york.
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dose anyone remember a very fat jockey called Jason Feaver, i don't.
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Ribero
regarding estate agents is george latham still kicking about? |
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ribero did not Spencer take up with Susan the wife of Taffy Williams who trained at Ferryhil?
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