ima_mazed66
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There might not be a European sprinter dominating in another country but there is an ex one in Krypton Factor though.

how can you call  3 wins from last 13 starts dominating?


Part of the problem I personally have with the Global Sprint Challenge is that the winner of the series can become so just by winning 1-2 of the 10 races when often they can also be beaten by plenty of other horses in it and in theory you can win it by never having won a race other than in your own country, which I believe was the case with Apache Cat. Add to that many of the 10 races are more easily accessible to those in Australia and the far east and whilst credit must still be given to the Aussie horses that come over here, the fact that around 6 of the races are in that side of the world is still significant and that points or however the series is decided can often be picked up unchallenged from any other country's horses in the Aussie legs other than say NZ ones but certainly not European and yes, you can say nothing there's nothing to stop them from going but they still don't and so can't gain any merit and the fact that the Aussie legs are so far apart in the calender doesn't help our horses either.

firtly let me educate you further, Apache Cat raced in 2 countries and won on a points system.that didnt entitle him to the $1,000,000 bonus, you have to win in 3 countries.

further claim by you that its too far for your horses to contest and out of their racing season is utter crap, but i wont go down that path again with you. below are races easilt accessible by european sprinters just as its accessible for australian horses to fly to the UK and all these races are within your season, whereas black caviars autumn racing season should have finished in april.

UNITED ARAB EMIRATES
Dubai Golden Shaheen, Sponsored by Gulf News (G1)
Saturday, 31 March - Meydan

SINGAPORE
KrisFlyer International Sprint (G1)
Sunday 20 May - Kranji

UNITED KINGDOM
King’s Stand Stakes (G1)
Tuesday 19 June - Royal Ascot

Diamond Jubilee Stakes (G1)
Saturday 23 June - Royal Ascot

Darley July Cup (G1)
Saturday 14 July - Newmarket

JAPAN
Sprinters Stakes (G1)
Sunday 30 September - Nakayama

AUSTRALIA
Patinack Farm Classic (G1)
Saturday 10 November - Flemington

GT MOLE I WILL FINSIH YOU OFF

you will find black caviar will run in the patinak in november and head to hong kong for the last leg of the global sprint challenge, naturally thats if she wins her 2nd leg in the UK to claim the 1,000,000 BONUS.

yes good point I suppose

Ima is currently in Sweden consulting with Julian Massage concerning wikileaks next move on the assault of facts.He has so far managed to have deleted Kieron the Fellon,Ballinger Ridge and Mrs Julie Cecil from the archives.

Mugsy please stop embarrassing yourself as even I'm cringing for you now and it gets even worse for me as I'm typing out the replies to your constant fcuk ups when you are so desperate to try to point score.

Fcuk up #1

I say:

There might not be a European sprinter dominating in another country but there is an ex one in Krypton Factor though.

You say:

how can you call 3 wins from last 13 starts dominating?

I say:

Er, because those 3 wins were all in the same country. The horse has run 10 times in that country (so 3 of your 13 are irrelevant to the specific point) and apart from winning the 3 which included the Gr1 Golden Shaheen worth just shy of £775k to the winner, in doing so beat Rocket Man, the horse always being lauded as top notch by the Aussies on here because it is Aussie bred and has 20 wins from 27 starts. Krypton Factor also beat horses from all over the world including America too. Of the remaining 7 of those 10 races Krypton Factor was 2nd 3 times and 3rd twice so I would have said 8 wins or places from 10 was pretty dominant.

Plus if you can win the Global Sprint Challenge series with 1 or 2 wins from 10 races like some Aussie horses have and then be considered the best in the world then which of the two scenarios is actually more dominate?

Fcuk up #2

I say:

(in relation to the Global Sprint Challenge)...in theory you can win it by never having won a race other than in your own country, which I believe was the case with Apache Cat

You say:

firtly let me educate you further, Apache Cat raced in 2 countries and won on a points system

I say:

In order to educate me unfortunately you have to tell me something that I didn't already know and I have bolded the key word in my statement above, but in your desperation for a bit of oneupmanship you seemingly overlooked that or struggled to retain that specific information in your eagerness to plough on, head down in order to type out your response as quickly as you could.

Let me know if you are still struggling and.....actually I do it here anyway, I knew full well Apache Cat ran 3rd at Sha Tin in HK but 3rd isn't winning now is it? Oh and I did have to look that up to check it when I was typing my previous message but then that's what I do, I check to confirm or find out first rather than just spout any old rubbish....oh and by the way, nice list of races above, I'm assuming that was all from memory considering you are always digging me out for looking up stuff. Wikipedia by any chance?

I've made this next point so many times that I'm even boring myself now as well as everyone else (except you apparently) but an Aussie horse can fly here and take in all 3 UK legs of the Global Sprint Series within about 3 weeks and then fly home again, so just the one flight here and back. That isn't the case for the UK horses for the Aussie legs now is it, what with the races being around March and November and would mean flying halfway around the world and back at least 2-3 times if also intending to take in some of the far eastern races or staying out there for months on end, which in that case the owner may just as well transfer the horse to an Aussie owner.....I know from memory I've made these points over and over again but you can almost set your watch until the next time you totally ignore them and bring up your flawed line of argument all over again.

Remind me again what happened with Starcraft when the horse raced in Europe 4 times from Royal Ascot in June until 4-5 months later in mid-late September for the QEll at Newmarket. Did connections fly the horse back and forth a couple of times or did they transfer it to Luca Cumani instead and leave it here? The specific finer details kind of gives the game away a bit there eh?

By the way, how comes none of you Aussies ever mention Star Witness coming over here? Could it be that the horse was 0 from 3 in his race by any chance?

educeee 
Krypton Factor went good in Singapore beaten 6L by ATO

ATO must be some animal to have demolished the dubai champion by that margin

We've been here before educeee and my answer will be the same as before:

The favourite Krypton Factor proved a serious disappointment as he failed to translate his Dubai Golden Shaheen form on Tapeta to the very different surface at Kranji. He kept on steadily but without anything resembling the kick that had taken him past Rocket Man at Meydan.

"I knew I was in trouble as soon as the gates opened" said his rider, Kieren Fallon. "In fact, I knew when it rained during the week. He just can't handle soft ground."

your a classic imamug66

knows jackshyt, gets it wrong all the time about australian  sprinters, thats why we call you Mr Wikipedia your knoweledge is embarrassing for you, what have you learnt?

when ever you are proved wrong you ignore it and throw a curve ball to direct of the subject pathetic actually

and point score??? never been about point scoring imamug66, its just showing what a fool you are pretending your an expert on australian horse racing...do remember that

WILLIAM HILL have made Bated Breath the 4-1 favourite in their Diamond Jubilee Stakes betting without red-hot fancy Black Caviar.

Bated Breath heads the market, although he could run in the King's Stand Stakes instead. French raider Moonlight Cloud is next at 9-2 with Hoof It 13-2.

Hills make Black Caviar 4-1 to win the Diamond Jubilee by five lengths or more and she is 9-4 to win the race by further than Frankel in the Queen Anne Stakes.


SUPRISING THE LATTER, FURTHER YOU RUN, THE MORE YOU SHOULD WIN BY

Moody has said a wet track,as he calls it, will not stop her running.

megsy   
your a classic imamug66

knows jackshyt, gets it wrong all the time about australian  sprinters, thats why we call you Mr Wikipedia your knoweledge is embarrassing for you, what have you learnt?

when ever you are proved wrong you ignore it and throw a curve ball to direct of the subject pathetic actually

and point score??? never been about point scoring imamug66, its just showing what a fool you are pretending your an expert on australian horse racing...do remember that

LMAO....how many more times mugsy do you have to be told? It's still "you're" and not "your"....and you can't deny I've tried to help you be telling you to stop typing and embarrassing yourself.

LOL too @ "whenever you are proved" what exactly have I said that was wrong in my posts above? You are the one too stupid to know the difference between having won a race outside your own country and only having run a race outside your own country.

You have to laugh at being told "do remember that" by some who seems to struggle to remember which feet to put his shoes on and you obviously don't remember the 101 times I've told you that I've never claimed to be an expert on Aussie racing, which is why most of what I say when connected to Aussie horses is to do with what they have done here in the UK.....do you best to remember that eh?

And who's the "we" that call me "Mr Wikipedia" you and your imaginary friend?

megsy   
WTF has startcraft got to do with australian sprinters?

How many more times do you have to be told 2 - The Sequel.....you don't set the agenda on here mugsy and anyone can talk about what they like, but surely even someone with as limited intelligence as yourself can still work out what point was being made about Starcraft, in respects to the gap in races he ran in over here meaning he stayed for 4+ months and was transferred to a UK based, as opposed to in and out in a few weeks being the usual method for your other horses that came over and the point being made was the UK horses would......in fact I won't bother, even though I could just as easily cut and paste if from the last time I spoon fed it to you in little kiddie bite sized pieces, but were still out of your depth in trying to comprehend it and there's no point in flogging a dead horse as the saying goes, you're (thumbs up) a lost cause and so I give up on you.

By the way, would it have only have been a valid point if Starcraft was a sprinter then, you ****ing idiot!

Also don't assume a lack of knowledge on my part in that I didn't know what happened to Star Witness and you are totally wrong in what you say anyway as the horse jumped out with the rest and was then held back by the jockey, it then got outpaced at stages of the race and was also running with its head to the side and hang/lugging in, but so what if it was only a 3YO carrying a 4YO weight, didn't the trainer not know the rules here? The horse was born 28th Sept 2007 and raced in the King's Stand on 14 Jun 2011 and so was in its 4th year anyway and would have been alive for 4 completed years in a matter of about 10 weeks. The horse was born in 2007 the same year as all of the other 4YOs in the race and just because all horses become a year older on 1st January here, doesn't mean every horse was born on that day and is exactly 4 years old to the day. A late foal can be nearer 3½ when it officially turns 4 and surely your trainers know this at the time they enter the races.

All of that should be irrelevant though anyway, as your sprinters are supposedly the best in the world and racing against out "B graders" aren't they?

Well ,i hope she wins as i have backed her at evens but if she loses it will be because the carrot juice has been left out of the fridge.

more tea vicar?

Ilike that suit black caviar struts about in, when does kathy freeman want it back?

beat your Arc winner Workforce fair and fookin square on 2 consecutive occasions, can't be that bad of a horse can it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tWHDSEJRinE

The aussie behemoth fights off the pacemaker, then fights off the english pretender

Undoubtedly the only member of MENSA averaging a HUNDRED posts a day on a forum

98 1/2 of them are about Frankel

If you can't work it out, consider it an accolade

TT, an oblivious germ