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Nerves jangle in Australia as Black Caviar sets off on long journey
Nerves jangle in Australia as Black Caviar sets off on long journey
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The UK racing press basically sneer at any horse that isn't from these ( or Irish) shores .. Very blinkered and jingoisitic ... A bit like the football journalists.
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They didn't 'sneer' at Curling for example this is just your colonial chip on the shoulder
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Colonial ? ... I'm feckin English LoL
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well anyone who believes if she got beat that she will be outclassed by another horse, come forward and name the horse that has any potential to do this
knowing full well, every Australian sprinter that has come to your shores with any sort of a reputation has normally delivered |
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There is no excuse for your stupidity then Frank
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Franky is right, Matt Chapman's interview stunk of hate towards the mare, I thought it would be more of a "we can't wait to showcase your sprinter on our feature racing festival", instead it was all about "she's beaten nothing, she's got to prove herself"
she ain't got to prove ****, you lot should be thanking your lucky stars, if she wanted to prove herself she'd be travelling to Singapore to take on Rocket Man, not to the UK to take on... I don't even know who your best sprinter is? probably will be racing in the King's Stand after having dodged the mare |
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you gotta laff at the Aussie bullsh1tters, we've heard it all before, just shut up.
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what? i'm right? can't handle a fact?
you shutup, i'll put you in the cave right where you belong you mouthy little ****tard |
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The nasty temper rears it's ugly head again.
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T-T, tell Captain ****queeze i'm the dominant force on these forums
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ILL FOOKIN GET MEGSY IN HERE IF YOU AREN'T CAREFUL.
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you're like a yapping little puppy,now do one you prat.
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you're like a yapping little puppy,now do one you prat.
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hey you should post it 3 times, it might make more sense the 3rd time
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She'll be on the plane about 15 minutes thinking "Are we there yet?"..."Are we there yet?""Are we there yet?"..."Are we there yet?"
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she'll dream of racing 1 paced plodders and then re-live the dream as Ascot
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Ed,you are a nasty,foul,violent,aggressive know nothing.Have i missed anything.OH,which country do you come from?
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I know more in 1 finger then you do in your violated skunk looking head
I need not reveal to you and personal information |
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any*
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Ashamed.
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MEGSY WILL BE HERE SOON
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Megsy in bedsy sleeping off his Jubilee hangover.
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BC will come home with flying colours.
Australian races offer more to punters than UK though. Why do UK races start so late and finish so early? Aussie races tend to go from 11am-6pm, throughout the week. We only observe a narrow window for betting on the UK races from 2pm-6pm and at best you have 6 races to choose from each meeting. Aussie races have 8-10 per meeting and on Saturdays we have a race every few minutes, where-as even on a Saturday in the UK you can still have your long 10-15 minute wait between races. Will be plenty of whinging poms, come 23 June. |
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Anaglogs Daughter
When: 05 Jun 12 17:00 Joined: Date Joined: 05 Jan 10 | Megsy in bedsy sleeping off his Jubilee hangover. you should know where ive been, i had to bail you out of jail again, ffs cant you piss at home for once !!.   |
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Feck me you're up early auld son...Are you not heading off to the Airport to wave off the cotton wool wrapped handicapper?
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you call 8.30am early?
ps...only one cotton wool horse in the world...."frankel", never races out of his comfort zone of a mile against the same horses |
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Anaglogs dreaming he is riding Frankel
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MEGSY IS HERE LADS.
GET THE FK OUT OF THE WAY |
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Ed...your too kind
 you seem to be doing a good job on your own |
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Anaglogs playing in his garden
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The latest news.
NEGOTIATING a 30-plus hour trip is the "biggest curve ball" facing Black Caviar on her venture to Royal Ascot. Trainer Peter Moody acknowledged tonight's midnight flight from Tullamarine was his greatest fear, not the opposition the champion sprinter will meet in the $788,000 Diamond Jubilee Stakes on Saturday, June 23. Black Caviar has taken a 30-hour float trip to Brisbane, but it was broken into two stints with stopovers for the mare to exercise. Moody said the five-year-old would not be afforded that luxury on her trip to London. "We're taking every precaution," Moody said. "Peter Angus, her vet, is going to travel with her, as will Tony (Haydon, stable foreman) and Paddy (Bell, track rider). You just have to have the right people there if something goes amiss. "Dr Angus will have fluids available if he feels she's not getting enough fluids, and that can be supplied intravenously. "Horses travel better flying than they do by road. There is no stopping and starting at red lights; you haven't got some goose cutting you off. There is a little bit of turbulence, but no more than we suffer when we fly. "It's just the restriction of being in the crate. She's basically restricted for 30 hours." Moody said Black Caviar was the fittest she had been for her quest to stretch her unbeaten streak to 22 on the final day of the Royal Ascot five-day carnival, but added there was no guarantee she would run in the 1200m July Cup at Newmarket on July 14. He said he'd purposely stepped up her work so that he would not have to train her for two weeks once she arrived in England. "She's getting on the plane the fittest she has ever been. If I don't have to train and work her while I'm over there, it's going to be a massive bonus," Moody said. "I've got her at a stage where I think I can taper off for the next 16 or 17 days so she will need nil track work to be 100 per cent." Moody was unsure which horses would take on Black Caviar, but he did say they would be in for one hell of a race. "Facts and figures tell you there is not a horse out there that can beat her," he said. |
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yes she has a giant stride.
Black Caviar's stride is about 8.33 metres, or 27⅓ feet in old terms, which is about 24 strides over 200m, compared with about 30 for her rivals, says Robbie Waterhouse, enthusiast and bookie. ''A friend claims he has, on the overhead film, measured one of her strides at 8.46m or 27¾ feet,'' Waterhouse emailed. Which leaves Black Caviar just behind the ''estimated'' 28ft of record-holder Bernborough. Still, the Waterhouse figures are more scientific. ''But apart from that, no Australian racehorse in the modern era has ever dominated its opposition, in top class racing as she has,'' he wrote. ''The starting prices demonstrate this perfectly ''Selective breeding, better diets and better training methods must mean the modern racehorse is superior to those in the past. The Flynn Effect, in science, dealing with IQs, is testimony to this. ''Clearly, Australia has the best sprinters in the world. Royal Ascot has proven that. How could anyone say she is not the best sprinter, anywhere, ever? ''I'd love to see her in a Newmarket again, with the big weight. What a shame the handicap doesn't carry a prizemoney premium over the set-weight races to tempt connections to risk her unbeaten record. |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5Fz7ltvwwA&feature=youtu.be
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bit of education for the punters and for the non believers.
HOW is it that Black Caviar can put her rivals to the sword with such ruthless ease time after time? The Black Flash has in all but a handful of occasions put her races to bed just inside the 400m point, allowing jockey Luke Nolen the luxury of giving her a cosy run to the line. The answer lies in the extraordinary length of her stride and a detailed analysis of her "hidden sectionals" which show the ability to sustain a higher cruising speed for furlongs on end. Dailysectionals.com.au founder Vince Accardi, who was this week described by form guru Rob Waterhouse as "no doubt the smartest man on times", has a database of advanced sectional data stretching back a decade and says not only does Black Caviar run faster than any other horse, but she can do it for longer. "Her winning effort in the Newmarket, where she averaged better than 19 metres per second for three consecutive furlongs, was her greatest effort," Accardi said. "I can't ever recall a horse being able to do that. If they do hit 19 (mps) they do it for one section. This horse did it over 600m and in a canter." Such was the merit of the performance, it rated some 17.3 lengths above the average for Flemington 1200m races. To put that in perspective, Takeover Target's best Flemington effort was +12.3 lengths - some five lengths inferior. "It's a rare jewel to find a horse that can sustain that cruising speed for three sections," Accardi said. "I would have loved to put the clock on Bernborough, but I just can't fathom how a horse can do it." To gain a better understanding of those numbers, 19mps is 10.5sec per 200m, meaning in one 600m section, Black Caviar took just 31.5. In the Newmarket, she hit a top speed of 19.47mps, running the 600m to the 400m in a startling 10.27. The Lightning Stakes, her previous start, produced similarly dominant middle sections. Her ability to run those sectionals and sustain them is made possible in no small way by the fact her stride is far bigger than most horses. Black Caviar's stride has been independently measured at 8.33m, meaning she takes 24 strides over 200m. Her rivals are taking 30 strides to cover the same distance. Accardi says Black Caviar's sectional speed is such that she could give rivals 10 lengths head start at the 400m and still beat them. He is convinced she will be even better now connections are testing her beyond the specialist sprint trips. "The top trainers always say you need a 1400m-1600m horse to win down the Flemington straight and her numbers suggest to me she is a genuine miler all day long," he said. To prove his theory, Accardi tabled the top 20 1400m performances in his database and compared the splits to Black Caviar's numbers. "Through those middle sections she was on average 2.5 lengths quicker from both 800m to 600m and 600m to 400m," he said. "Using her best figures, she was up to four lengths quicker per section." Exceed And Excel smashed the Caulfield 1400m course record in September, 2003, yet hit a top speed of just 17.95mps. Cox Plate winner Pinker Pinker hit 18.13mps when winning over the Caulfield 1400m last February. Grand mare More Joyous got to 18.4 in her Futurity. And to think recently in this years Lightning Stakes she ran over 20mps for a sustain run running 9.98sec for one 200m split, she has gotten better with age. |
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She beat Donkeys in Australia...Wait till she's up against the mighty Tiddliwinks or the fastest horse in the world Stone of Folca.
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yes the mighty tiddliwinks, won 3 from 20 on flat turf.. some beast we are dealing with here
the almighty Stone of Folca, won a class 4 handicap didn't it? Moody must be rattled |
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class 2 handicap, my mistake
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i think Anaglogs just showed signs he is rattled
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Good to see the excuses are ready.
The flight to Britain is being viewed by connections and observers as the major stumbling block in Black Caviar's quest to preserve her unbeaten status in the Diamond Jubilee Stakes at Royal Ascot on June 23, for which she is a long odds-on favourite. ''The biggest concern on a flight is the horse can't really move, they can't walk around,'' said the vet for Moody's stable, Peter Angus. ''I assume that with those sorts of skins products it helps prevent any sort of swelling to help with compression on their limbs and blood flow. ''The main goal of flying over there is to try and get the horse as relaxed as possible and to try and eat and drink as much as they can and keep them occupied. The biggest concern is they do tend to lose some weight because they're not able to do anything. Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/sport/horseracing/clothes-maketh-the-mare-as-black-caviar-takes-on-world-20120605-1zuac.html#ixzz1wxqXtGyj |
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the follow is a train of event which run through a pommy's head when analysing a horse
- won 21 races, must be a good horse - where's it from? - Australia? CANT WIN. mugs |