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WAINTHROP
27 Apr 12 14:38
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Wouldnt it be a good idea if all customers who had there bet365 closed or restricted to pennies turned upto Sandown  tomorrow with a red card. Written on these cards bet365 close winning accounts and  will decline bets of a few pounds. And then show them in the winners enclosure when the winning horses come in. Would deserve the bookies right.

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By:
lucylucky
When: 27 Apr 12 14:43
cant get to sandown unfortunately but im with you in principle
By:
OVERSEAS
When: 27 Apr 12 14:47
Would be 1000s upon 1000s in that case...
By:
WAINTHROP
When: 27 Apr 12 15:19
the next time bet365 sponsor a raceday at Sandown we shoud organise it during the month before
By:
Mr Holmes
When: 27 Apr 12 15:32
Best bookies by far if your asking Happy
By:
Strawberryface
When: 27 Apr 12 15:37
90%+ of account holders couldn't care less as they know their betting activities are such that they will never get restricted.

Despite what many on here will have you believe most punters simply want to continue their punting without it costing them too much. Modest losses that are comparable to other hobbies will do them fine.

There is a misconception that all losses are considered unacceptable by punters. If someone does £50 a week but gets huge amount of enjoyment and uses up a significant portion of their leisure time with it is it any worse than a couple of rounds of golf every week?
By:
Triple-Trigger
When: 27 Apr 12 15:39
I agree with that up to a point,but losing=failure and i don't think many like that.
By:
Strawberryface
When: 27 Apr 12 15:46
I suppose it depends on what you consider as losing. Few past times are free so a better comparison might be how many consider that their losses are good value.

There can't be many hobbies where every pound spent is considered as a pound lost.
By:
SharpMind
When: 28 Apr 12 00:40
why would a betfair customer want to use bet365.....
By:
daniels mother
When: 28 Apr 12 01:11
SM try BOG, better place prices, more places ,prices when there is no liquidity on here ,quite a few reasons actually ,also no commision no premium charge !!
By:
Ramruma
When: 28 Apr 12 07:10
@Strawberryface -- That is a good point: moderate losers are simply buying enjoyment.

And not all winners are restricted. I'm not (famous last words!) so either I am not winning enough to make it worth their while, or I'm not an arber or a putter-onner.

Credit is also due to Bet365 for not running to the press with details of the Henderson groom who had it off at Cheltenham.
By:
elisjohn
When: 28 Apr 12 07:20
great offers with 365, specially the c4 races offer, i really miss those with my restrictions, and also the £ 50 offers on football matches im not allowed those, but many ways theyre better than betfair if youre not restricted/ closed etc
By:
layingisthewayforward
When: 28 Apr 12 08:42
SharpMind     28 Apr 12 00:40 
why would a betfair customer want to use bet365.....


Not so sharp after all...
By:
millhouse
When: 28 Apr 12 08:55
Starwberry face = works in the bookmaking industry.

Anyone that can bet with this horrible firm, either has a great record of not winning, or is a very small stakes punter.

There's nothing else...
By:
Strawberryface
When: 28 Apr 12 09:25
I don't.
By:
toronto44
When: 28 Apr 12 11:49
As has been said on here many times before.If bookmakers want to be outlets for people to just give them their money and think it is fair and within the terms of their government awarded licences,to then refuse to give punters any chance to get their loses back.Lets have the truth out in the open,that you are only allowed to lose.The new generation of punters would laugh at this rip off and come straight to here or other exchanges.This new generation are all computer literate and would easily find alternatives to this loser only con.

Of course the only way it will be exposed is by the non racing media or punters organising a voice themselves.The racing media are a lazy corrupted travesty of their profession.
By:
corbiewood
When: 28 Apr 12 11:56
the new generation of punters dont want anything to do with racing.

the betfair forum allows any idiot to platform views without proper research or knowledge.

That soap box your standing on toronto is about to cave....
By:
THIS-IS-GETTING-REDICKULASS
When: 28 Apr 12 12:00
defo . . . . im inn next time scumbagsDevil
By:
toronto44
When: 28 Apr 12 12:14
So with your bookmakers(ar sewipe)research and knowledge,please point me to your evidence that a new generation of punters would not want anything to do with well run non corrupted racing.Or are you the idiot here,on your bookmakers anti racing soap box,of course you want to ignore racing this would allow you to concentrate on just stealing from punters on the FOBTS.

The sure way for racing to become a dead sport is to allow it to be run for the benefit of the bookmaking industry,as is increasingly happening ie All weather.Just look what bookmakers did to greyhound racing when they took control.
By:
THIS-IS-GETTING-REDICKULASS
When: 28 Apr 12 12:17
44 . . . did you pick up the mgquire tip??

did post it . . . 13-7 13-8??

whankersWink keep takeing my posts down hope you see it.Confused
By:
THIS-IS-GETTING-REDICKULASS
When: 28 Apr 12 12:19
CorbiLove i used to respect your side of things but your now a laughing stock mate . . . you talk bollocks hth.
By:
corbiewood
When: 28 Apr 12 12:21
just balance your over weight noggin over to the numerous financial results available of the major bookmakers throughout the world my prehistoric chum. racing a mere backwater.

To be so blinkered and cling onto the FOBT argument like an anti christ only weakens your one dimensional argument.
By:
corbiewood
When: 28 Apr 12 12:22
big grime,

card number 8659 for you.

keep smashin em up.
By:
THIS-IS-GETTING-REDICKULASS
When: 28 Apr 12 12:23
Corbigoon . . .r i p corbiwood.Cry
By:
duncan idaho
When: 28 Apr 12 12:26
why would a betfair customer want to use bet365.....


Cry
By:
corbiewood
When: 28 Apr 12 12:27
and also torronno,

why would the very exchange remote based platform that you are posting on be throwing money at a fixed odds sportsbook to try and compete with these firms that you claim are at risk of being left out by the 'new generatio' (LOL).

your argument is nonsense.
By:
homefortea
When: 28 Apr 12 12:36
corbiewood...I've been successfully punting horses for 30 years and throughout that time it has always been said that the younger generation are not interested in racing.Truth is that it has always been an older persons game and peoples interest peaks when they settle down after their single years.

As regards bet£3.65 with their computer systems they can identify not only all winners but also people who are losing and are POTENTIAL winners and restrict them all to pennies.They can then claim that they have so many active accounts when the time comes to either float or sell the Company.

Anyone praising the awful firm is either a loser, a liar or a plant.

Wainthrop I am up for your suggestion but we will have to wait for next year now !!
By:
zilzal1
When: 28 Apr 12 12:39
I remember Steve Christ and mike Watchmaker say the same things when they 1st went racing that everyone seemed old, and its stayed that wayPlain

There is a mix and one US track improved their turnover by targeting older patrons
By:
toronto44
When: 28 Apr 12 12:40
Corb as i said where is there any evidence from a non bookmaking source of a new generation of punters not being able to be attracted to a non corrupted racing product.No surprise it is becoming a backwater when any young punter who goes into a bookmakers now,can see the lowlifes and compulsives the bookmakers have succeeded in filling their shops with.Bookmakers have deliberately ignored racing and concentrated on exploiting the poor and vulnerable with their new government licence to steal on the FOBTs.Yes racing will now always be a distant second to football but well run it could still be a major betting outlet.It does not help that racing on TV is very poor and now broadcast for the benefit of your bosses not punters.

Not blinkered about FOBTs just stating the facts,that they are destroying tens of thousands of peoples and their families lives and no doubt responsible for many suicides.You earn your dirty money off the back of this misery Corb...does that feel good or do you have no shame left!

Sorry G missed that one could you put it up in a coded thread...cheers
By:
corbiewood
When: 28 Apr 12 13:19
your posting on a thread about a firm that have no fobts.
By:
corbiewood
When: 28 Apr 12 13:21
and your also posting on a remote based betting platform who s biggest growth area is casino - and who target clients with strategic advertising at key points of the day / media.

as i said your argument is ridiculous as it is blinkered.
By:
corbiewood
When: 28 Apr 12 13:24
Not blinkered about FOBTs just stating the facts,that they are destroying tens of thousands of peoples and their families lives and no doubt responsible for many suicides.You earn your dirty money off the back of this misery Corb...does that feel good or do you have no shame left!


you would get a job as a strapline ed with the mail.
By:
toronto44
When: 28 Apr 12 13:31
Not defending everything that happens on here but they do not dominate every High Street(esp poor areas)with shop windows enticing people in to get free samples of their drug.Nor do they stop ordinary punters who get ahead or punters who have lost for years then get on a good run from betting.

PS the original point of this post was your bosses,we will only take bets from people guaranteed to lose and lose regular,scam.This does not just apply  to racing as your post implies but to all betting including football.
By:
corbiewood
When: 28 Apr 12 13:40
you know as much about me as you do the gambling industry.
By:
toronto44
When: 28 Apr 12 13:42
Corb as i have said before your grasp of even the most basic arguments in politics is laughable.

No Corb the Mail is perceived to be a right wing paper...so let me try to put this as simply as possible.As a right wing paper they would be on the side of big business(ie your bosses)not the ordinary working man being robbed.Now if you had said it would have made a good strapline for the Guardian or Independent it would have at least made some sense.Stick to your bookmaker fed propaganda Corb,you might come over as an unprincipled a rsewipe but at least you have people with some intelligence to move your lips.
By:
corbiewood
When: 28 Apr 12 13:43
again your argument is just ridiculous, online turnover dwarfs high street turnover and would show a deeper more entrenched social demographic than any inner city LBO would have.

ill be interested to garner your blinkered and obsessive opinions when betfair launch there fixed odds sportsbook.

You are out of your depth on every point you convey.
By:
corbiewood
When: 28 Apr 12 13:45
this gets better....

what do you see yourself as toronto? Some crusader for the greater good? yet you snipe ill informed nonsense on a gambling forum.

Priceless.
By:
THIS-IS-GETTING-REDICKULASS
When: 28 Apr 12 14:10
T44 HIGGENSON V JONES AV A BIT OF 1.73 HIGGY HE IS PLAYING OUT OF HIS SKIN, BE A CLOSE ONE THO IMO . . ONLY 2-3 FRAMES IN IT.Cool
By:
lazarus2
When: 28 Apr 12 14:38
toronto`s profound ignorance being exposed once again.
By:
THIS-IS-GETTING-REDICKULASS
When: 28 Apr 12 14:56
come on then laz enlighten us . . . . at least corbi has half an idea.Excited
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