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Quote that sums up Nicholls
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Nicholls proved himself a classless, graceless victor
...and you also presume to know the character of Henderson as a "gentleman" deserving of success? |
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I think it's true that no-one likes a winner in Britain
No wonder we come second all the time |
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In the last 100 years - how many people have actually trained the winner of a Grand National?
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T'was an unfortunate quote which I'm sure he already regrets.
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Nothing to do with Hendo - not relevant to the post. It's about Nicholls. And nothing to do with not liking winners. There's a way to win, and to lose.
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It's blown Nicky Henderson out of the water now.
is that the comment you are objecting to, johnny? How do you build a vitriolic character assassination out of that? |
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Even more unfortunate on the centenary of Titanic.
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The point has been made already on this thread that Nicholls had just won the biggest steeplechase in the world (and possibly the most famous horserace in the world) for the first time and yet, pretty much his first thought, was for how the rersult affected his personal duel with Henderson for the CT! FFS how self-absorbed must you be for that to be your first thought on such a momentous occasion?
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so the guy likes to win. What's wrong with that?
Probably the main reason why he is so good at his job and better than the rest |
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yes, pedro - showed him in a deeply unflattering light - as Gerry G articulates above.
What's wrong with it, is that he puts winning above everything else, including the welfare of his horses imho. |
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puts winning above everything else, including the welfare of his horses imho
at least you concede it is only your humble opinion, johnny, and not fact. I doubt you would have the nerve to say that to his face. Are we are talking about the same person who retired Denman as a "young" 11yo and done similarly with Neptune Collonges today? I have heard of other trainers (some of them in the top flight) who are quite happy to run their horses lame. Don't think I could accuse Nicholls of that. If Nicholls didn't care about the welfare of his horses, doubt he would have so many female staff working for him, who are much more likely to be horse lovers than their male counterparts |
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It would be like Messi scoring the winner in the CL final for Barcelona against Real and for his first comment to the post-match interviewer to be something like: "This means I'll probably beat Ronaldo to world player of the year now."
It was a really crass thing for Nicholls to say imo - especially as at that point in time virtually no one else cared about the trainer's championship except for him! |
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"It's a massive, massive team effort. All credit to all down at Ditcheat."
A comment you hear from Nicholls regularly..... but rarely passes the lips of Henderson |
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Nicholls has been written off in a lot of quarters this season,he was entitled to say whatever he wanted,an "up yours" to all his detractors if you will.
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What a lot of drivel, you 'protestors' are far too precious.
Nicholls is a winner and he clearly enjoys being top of the tree. He'd spent the previous two hours seeing his Champion Trainers lead being cut bit by bit and the fact it means something to him shouldn't be criticised for gods sake! But as has been said already in this thread, us English can't stand a winner! Or, apparently, a fat bloke... Questioning his animal welfare credentials on the back of this comment - now that's truly bizarre. |
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He'll have gained a few more detractors after today's comment.
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I trhink his comment about people who found todays race distateful "they should grow up" what a complete tool.These people in racing need as erious shake up.
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can understand the winner in him coming out on a day like this , but i dont think i will ever understand the
"they should grow up " comment |
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I don't see the issue here...... Top trainer in burning desire to win shocker!!!!!!
He clearly has massive affection for his horses asleep and he will be made up to have got this prize from Neptune. What a great servant he has been. At least his yard is a little more honest than Hendo's. |
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Lol asleep is meant to be as well. iPad pred text
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Nicholls has lost plenty of horses on the racecourse, and probably on the home gallops too.
Anyone who works with animals on this scale knows this is part of life and they just have to get on with it. No way would Nicholls wish a horse's death on anyone and if you think otherwise, you just have no measure of the man at all |
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A win at all costs mentality was shown up in that statement. Not the first time this has been seen in Nicholls, if you've followed NH closely over recent years.
'the grow up' statement is a similar sort of thing... appalling arrogance. |
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johnny, why don't you read the full comment and understand the context before making a few words concur with your misguided preconceptions
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Completely insensitive comment in light of today's events.
Does nothing for the image of National Hunt racing - asking people to grow up who dare to criticise? That's a real grown up approach. The guy has gone down in many peoples estimations after today's performance. |
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I totally appreciate the context, pedro, and you cannot justify it regardless of just winning the GN.
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Losing a horse like that must be so distressing for any owner , if it was mine and i was told to grow up and get on with it i would most likley lose it .
I dont know him , and no axe to grind either but it does give a measure of the man pedrobob The racing world has been robbed today and any follower would have been affected by todays events in some way and i would have thought HE would have been more affected than most . |
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ranjam and johnny. Have you ever owned a pet or animal of any description?
Death comes to us all, and sporting animals have a shorter lifespan than most. If you think Nicholls couldn't give a toss about any of his horses and they are just meat through a factory for him, you have not got an earthly clue |
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pedrobob-My horse was put down after being kicked in his field it was unfortunate. The GN is now becoming unacceptable to many people. It is not a fair test and if we want to save NH racing then we have to make drastic changes. Nicholls needs to make a statement tomorrow to correct what he has said.
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saxon farm
14 Apr 12 21:43 Joined: 11 Nov 05 | Topic/replies: 831 | Blogger: saxon farm's blog Even more unfortunate on the centenary of Titanic. nice one!  |
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saxon farm
14 Apr 12 21:43 Joined: 11 Nov 05 | Topic/replies: 831 | Blogger: saxon farm's blog Even more unfortunate on the centenary of Titanic. nice one! |
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steamship, what is your understanding about the context of what Nicholls has said today?
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Animals do not have souls. We attach attributes such as brave, clever, genuine as if they are human. We delight in the speed and agility as the skill of the jockeys combines with the natural selection which enables one to be faster than the other. I have owned racing animals who have died competing and you do get attached which leads to an irrational level of grief which I am afraid to say was greater than an octogenarian grandad's death. We're a weird lot.
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Yes I have owned plenty of pets and had to have them put down at times - suffice to say on every occasion the vet hasn't turned round to me and said, whilst ive shed a tear and said my goodbyes with 'grow up and get on with it'. That's would be unprofessional right?
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Ranjam, but you did grow up and get on with it, didn't you. You went out and bought another pet, no?
If you didn't accept the death of a pet or animal, you'd probably never buy another one. That's all Nicholls is saying, not that he doesn't care for animals. |
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Then he could have articulated this in a far better and more timely manner...
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I have, pedro - lost my beloved English setter recently at a tragically young age. Don't really get what relevance that has to justifying Nicholls callous and arrogant statements today.
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its plan wrong , cant be justified
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ranjam, I hope you don't trust the words of some journo who sticks a microphone in front of everyone for a comment.
I think the accusations on here of Nicholls being an uncaring, horse hater are getting a bit out of hand, don't you? |
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Nicholls comments are indeed callous & insensitive & sum him up well.
All the pathetic apologists in the world won't change that. It's nice that there are people who try though, he's probably had far too much champagne tonight to bother himself. |
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it didnt show nichols in the best light alright but i just cant stand nicky so im glad he lost personally!
incred actually as nicky seems to have a better team this yr. |