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conned
02 Jan 12 12:12
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WHY DO THEIR NOT SUSPEND IN PLAY?

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By:
Dotchinite
When: 02 Jan 12 12:15
Dont be stupid.
By:
mr crisp
When: 02 Jan 12 12:31
wellcome aboard brother
By:
Aviboyd
When: 02 Jan 12 12:34
A more important question is does the Betty Bot match bets at 1000.0 where it is impossible for the selection to win?
By:
wee eck
When: 02 Jan 12 12:36
There is something very wrong with an online betting site that allows the unwary

to back horses minutes after they are officially out of the race.
By:
Greg_Gory
When: 02 Jan 12 12:38
GREEN UP Opportunities

Easy pickings
By:
adge
When: 02 Jan 12 12:40
i would expect the betfair bot is the first to lay 1000 any faller
it is their site and their toy after all is said and done
By:
Dotchinite
When: 02 Jan 12 12:40
I think if you get a chance to back the fav at 1000-1 in running you should have an idea that all is not well.
By:
wee eck
When: 02 Jan 12 12:44
Dotchinite, we all know, that but a procedure should be in place to make it impossible

to place a bet on a horse that is officially out of a race.
By:
Dotchinite
When: 02 Jan 12 12:49
I think if you bcak just as it falls and gets matched at 1000-1 then tahts unlucky and if you take the 1000 of the screen its your own responsibility.

Cant see why any procedure is needed.

What is needed is in cases like the BDO darts where Kellett and bunting are still quoted and being laid when they failed to qualify on an event where the draw was done weeks ago.
By:
Aviboyd
When: 02 Jan 12 12:49
adge - it is illegal for a bookmaker to do that!
By:
DOUBLED
When: 02 Jan 12 12:50
Its not the 999-1 layers that are the problem it's them laying much much shorter for large sums after they have fallen Cool
By:
roggrain
When: 02 Jan 12 12:51
Possibly because,if a runner is removed from the betting,the entire market has to be suspended and a new one formed. In a jumps race,this could happen a half a dozen times or more and would result in total confusion.
By:
adge
When: 02 Jan 12 12:53
are betfair a bookmaker now , aviboyd.
since moving to gib according to the gambling commission it's seems they and others can do anything they like
By:
Anaglogs Daughter
When: 02 Jan 12 12:54
They don't have to remove it. just deop it down to the bottom
By:
Anaglogs Daughter
When: 02 Jan 12 12:54
*drop
By:
toronto44
When: 02 Jan 12 12:54
Thats not what people are talking about Doc.If you back a horse that is going well but has already fallen or broken down because you are not watching live.That is being stolen from in my book.You have been defrauded but Betfair make money from it,so do nothing.

I remember i backed 0-1 instead of 1-0(the real score) on the correct score,straight after a goal was scored because some thieving parasite had put up 8s 0-1.A bit over what 1-0 should have been.Stupid on my part i know but an honest mistake.When i called the Betfair help desk and said they should stop these theiving scum scalping people and that it was a palpable error on my part.All they would say was i had 2 chances to cancel the bet and it was tough s hite.

Seems its not tough s hite but a palpable error when it happens to them.
By:
budapest
When: 02 Jan 12 12:58
ON HERE YOU CAN BACK PEOPLE IN EVENTS SUCH AS X-FACTOR AFTER THEY HAVE BEEN VOTED OUT.
By:
roggrain
When: 02 Jan 12 12:59
Does anyone have difinitive information as to Betfair backing/laying? I think this is a very important question. Surely they should be acting only as brokers not as bookies?
By:
adge
When: 02 Jan 12 13:01
are you condoning the practise , budapest , or just showing anothe example of theft
By:
Arklearkle
When: 02 Jan 12 13:03
The plants must have had a late night.
By:
Carlsburg Don't Do Tipsters
When: 02 Jan 12 13:03
Most of you shouldn't be allowed internet access.
By:
toronto44
When: 02 Jan 12 13:06
Whys that Carlsburg?
By:
Aviboyd
When: 02 Jan 12 13:07
adge - I believe BF are licensed in the UK via the Gambling Commission under the Gambling Act (2005).  BF are continually in breach of 'Codes of Practice' and why nobody has challenged them legally about this is simply staggering imo.
By:
democrat
When: 02 Jan 12 13:08
Adge - if what you say is true and could be proved surely BF could be hung out to dry and their business well and truly holed beneath the water line !!!! It's bad enough for other third parties to be getting away with it !!
By:
Arklearkle
When: 02 Jan 12 13:10
Carlsberg why dont you throw in castration while you are at it.
By:
toronto44
When: 02 Jan 12 13:15
I think Carlsbergs mum has taken his internet access away!!
By:
adge
When: 02 Jan 12 13:19
the gambling commission have this week said they have no power to act in any way over those registered in gibralter
democrat .i don't work for betfair so don't know how they work but as they have this week admitted that they have robots working in all markets no one can get in before them.
By:
democrat
When: 02 Jan 12 13:26
So the moral of the story is - get registered offshore and get up to whatevere chicanery you want ? Could start a trend - makes all these elongated schedule Y's look like chicken feed Whoops
By:
steeringjobnap
When: 02 Jan 12 13:30
Carlsberg don't do trolls; BF do.
By:
Aviboyd
When: 02 Jan 12 13:40
I'm going to start a company that run a lottery style game and register it in Gibralter.  The draws will be predetermined with winning tickets allocated in advance to family members.  I bet the GC and Police would soon find some jurisdiction and take action...
By:
Agent G
When: 02 Jan 12 13:49
I think if you get a chance to back the fav at 1000-1 in running you should have an idea that all is not well.

similarly if it's 29 all is not well, but if you're brave enough to lump on ........
By:
Bridgeboy
When: 02 Jan 12 13:50
Bf are obviousley using the Ostrich technique and hoping if they bury their head in the sand and ignore everything it will all go away and in this case it will unless agreived punters go to the police and report a fraud(the police are duty bound to investigate any report of a crime)even if bf are registered in Gib the directors live in the UK and can be arrested. If no one is prepared to do this best to just wipe your mouth and move on. . .
By:
Banks.
When: 02 Jan 12 13:50
The GC have no legal remit over BF. The police may have an interest if it affected UK citizens.

In fact due to the current situation with Gib etc there are very few online firms that the GC would have any remit over. Not sure who is left in UK. Bet365, Coral? That is probably about it apart from a few small firms.
By:
ekbalko
When: 02 Jan 12 17:48
Budapest...1000 on x factor means nothing they come back after being voted out,fallers in racing can`t carry on.
By:
Kelly
When: 02 Jan 12 17:56
£8 just matched at 1000 in the Fulham vs Arsenal game , score 0-1  at time of matching . If you cant win you cant lose ( except here ) .
By:
paul22
When: 02 Jan 12 17:57
At the end of the day if you cant be bothered to wait to get your exposure back and back 0-0 when its 1-0 youre a moron. 99% of money matched at 1000 ( in anything other than horse racing ) is people who cant be bothered to wait until the event has finished and just want there money back to bet again.
By:
doantwin2easy
When: 02 Jan 12 18:05
The human intervention Betfairs end that would be required to grey out back/lays on "not possible" results (particularly horse racing), would create a logistical nightmare.

Even automated processes are subject to failure (as we have seen) let alone ones that would require human input in fast response markets. Even experienced commentators often call the wrong horse as a faller.
By:
Yoshi
When: 02 Jan 12 18:07
you can win... happened lots of times before Grin
By:
conned
When: 02 Jan 12 18:22
Betfair should void all monies staked at the end of races or events where you cannot possibly win, the same as they did over the Voler La Vedette fiasco.
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