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SPRINT superstar Black Caviar (Peter Moody/Luke Nolen) had little more than a racecourse gallop as she arrogantly dismissed three rivals to take her unbeaten record to 15 in Melbourne on Saturday.
Having equalled Phar Lap's best winning streak on her previous outing, the brilliant five-year-old scored by six lengths eased down in the Schweppes Stakes, a A$300,000 (£195,000) support race on the Cox Plate card at Moonee Valley.
The riders on Royal Ascot winner Scenic Blast ( 3 times group1 winner )and Group 1-placed Here De Angels ( 2nd beaten shorthead to Starspangledbanner in grp1 oakliegh plate ) were already shovelling on the coal at this stage and Nolen just allowed Black Caviar to ease clear, barely moving a muscle.
In front of a cheering crowd close at hand at this tight, idiosyncratic circuit, the final furling felt more like a lap of honour than a race as she came home well clear of Doubtful Jack, who held second. the time was just outside the track record on a dead 5
Having equalled Phar Lap's best winning streak on her previous outing, the brilliant five-year-old scored by six lengths eased down in the Schweppes Stakes, a A$300,000 (£195,000) support race on the Cox Plate card at Moonee Valley.
The riders on Royal Ascot winner Scenic Blast ( 3 times group1 winner )and Group 1-placed Here De Angels ( 2nd beaten shorthead to Starspangledbanner in grp1 oakliegh plate ) were already shovelling on the coal at this stage and Nolen just allowed Black Caviar to ease clear, barely moving a muscle.
In front of a cheering crowd close at hand at this tight, idiosyncratic circuit, the final furling felt more like a lap of honour than a race as she came home well clear of Doubtful Jack, who held second. the time was just outside the track record on a dead 5
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view race here.
http://www.3news.co.nz/VIDEO-Full-race-Black-Caviar-breaks-Phar-Laps-record-15-straight-wins-Schweppes-Classic-Moonee-Valley-2011/tabid/317/articleID/230434/Default.aspx |
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Thanks for posting the link Megsy, BC was certainly impressive, but then she often is.
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Yes very impressive indeed,and needed the help of the Stewards before hand
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What's this rubbish about them giving her an empty stall alongside?
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As straightforward as the victory was, however, it wasn't without a trace of controversy after stewards took the unprecedented step of reallocating the starting gate of Here De Angels, who has a history of giving trouble at the start, to protect BlackCaviar.
Here De Angels drew the outside of the five-horse field but started in barrier six with an empty gate between him and Black Caviar in barrier four. The move came after Moody had exerted pressure suggesting he might scratch the mare when she was drawn next to Here De Angels, who was barred from racing for a spell owing to his unruly behaviour at the gate. Doubtful Jack's rider Dwayne Dunn described Here De Angels as a "dangerous horse" and Racing Victoria chief executive Rob Hines said the move showed "common sense and good judgement given the circumstances". Others suggested a Pandora's Box had been opened, and Ange Bassett, part-owner of Balavan, spoke on radio saying both Black Caviar and Here De Angels had been handed an unfair advantage by having clear water beside them. Balavan was scratched. |
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Australians trying to buy dreams,who would have thought it
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everyone sees this as a favor for Black Caviar, how about Here De Angels? the horse is claustrophobic, perhaps having Black Caviar 1 stall over helped the horse?
it was a common sense move, not as if the draw made a huge difference on the outcome of a race in a 4 horse field |
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Changing the rules for 1 horse is not right - obv the horse would have won anyway. I presume all horses (of all ability) drawn next to 'difficult' horses will now be given an empty stall next to them in aussie racing? A dangerous precedent has been set.
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the horse is claustrophobic
Do me a favour!  |
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if the horse is Claustrophobic,then he should not be allowed take part,simple as that
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it was a common sense move, not as if the draw made a huge difference on the outcome of a race in a 4 horse field
So why do it then? And yes it helps those horses invovled but not the other horses - still doesn't make it right! |
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i'm not kidding guys, the horse is claustrophobic (trainer has said so) otherwise he's a damn good horse, got beaten a nose by starspangledbanner a while back
let's be honest, the horse race today wasn't a race for a punt, it was more a spectacle to see the great mare go around, there's no horse in australia that can beat her, I agree it does set a poor precedent |
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shows the intelligence of snaff and spyker... shyt stirrers with no imput thats respected....as usual
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We all like Champions,Megsy!
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Megsy - you really are a sad case. If you think changing the rules for 1 horse makes sense just to make it easier for that horse to become a reecord breaker then fair do's - i like a level playing field, you obv do not. All I'll say is, if the rules were changed like this at ascot to favour a UK horse over BC you lot would be screaming and bawling. Sad, so very very sad.......
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So next time some small trainer with an average horse asks to have the draw changed shall we be fully expecting the Aussie authorities to oblige them? And why stop there? Lets have the French authorities bend the rules to allow a gelding to run in the Arc!
Plus Bart Cummings certainly missed a trick too and maybe should have asked for the Melbourne Cup to be dropped back to 10f just for So You Think.  |
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Just so you all know i didn't see anyone agree with this on the Aus forum, but i will remember the rule changes when they let some international runners in the MC that are not exactly qualified.
Unfortunately the racing club like to do thing there way such as excess watering of the track before the MC to stop overseas trainers that are used to bogs complaining. |
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why is it always the same select few who have negative things to say about Australian horses and racing?
why can't you just appreciate a champion mare who is unbeaten from 15 starts the barrier draw changes in a 4 horse field and you make a big deal from it, she started 1.04 ffs, nothing was ever going to beat her even if she started from barrier 15, common sense decision |
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educeee...same old shyt stirrers,about 5-6 of them, no names, we know who they are as everyone else does. take frankel out of the equation and they be wanking over snow fairy, mind you they over did the friction with workforce until he became yesterdays fish n chip wrapper.
and since when has europe been representing england as one nation? ohh i forgot not many class horses in uk you have to claim irish, french,german horses as your own. |
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the barrier draw changes in a 4 horse field and you make a big deal from it, she started 1.04 ffs, nothing was ever going to beat her even if she started from barrier 15, common sense decision
So why do it then you fúcking idiot |
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reading never was your strength was it?
common sense decision |
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if the said horse was so dangerous in the stalls then why allow it to take part?
you really are thick and arent worth conversing with |
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good, stop posting then
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Maybe in the 2000 Guineas when Frankel was drawn in 1 and his pacemaker was in 13 in a 13 runner field they should have reshuffled the draw and put them side by side so that it would have been easier to track the pacemaker. Then we wouldn't have had Frankel getting out too fast and making all and people still going on as if that's the only way he ever runs his races.
By the way, isn't getting out of the stalls fast quite important in sprints? If so and Black Caviar got out well as she did in her last race then why does it matter which horse she was drawn next to? I see you keep clutching onto that Workforce straw megsy in a desperate bid to convince yourself that just as long as So You Think beat him (although not Snow Fairy) when clearly not his true running in the Arc, that you somehow feel better about So You Think's multiple defeats in "European" racing......quite sad really! Just to point out too that it was you Aussies who referred to us as Europeans. Plus has it ever occurred to you that because the UK, Irish and French form can all be linked that any runner going over there to race can act as a benchmark to measure the other European horses by?......For example, Purple Moon beaten ½L in the Melbourne Cup was also beaten in a 4 runner novice hurdle at Musselburgh or that Bauer beaten a nose in it was at best a Gr3 winner here and that both would be beaten out of sight in the Arc. |
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go away mugboy66, this thread isn't about the arc or the melbourne cup, it's about the great mare and our dominance of sprinting distances
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Oh how quickly your supposed super horse seems to have been forgotten then, even by yourself.
And as I keep telling you but you seem unable to retain the information, Aussie horses have come over here and been spanked just as often if not more than they have won. Choisir runs in UK: 2 wins 1 defeat. Miss Andretti runs in UK: 1 win and 1 defeat. Takeover Target runs in UK: 1 win 5 defeats. Scenic Blast runs in UK: 1 win 1 defeat. Magnus runs in UK: 0 wins and 3 defeats. Star Witness runs in UK: 0 wins 3 defeats. Glamour Puss runs in UK: 0 wins 2 defeats. Bentley Biscuit runs in UK: 0 wins 1 defeat. Falkirk runs in UK: 0 wins 1 defeat. So if 5 wins from 23 attempts is your idea of domination then I think I see why were tend to disagree. Keep picking those cherries Bruce! |
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like i said the same old shyt stirrers have responded, i havent even bothered to read their posts...normal crap as usual
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if the horse is ruled safe enough to be racing, it has to race, and they can't change the draw to suit the mare. Doesn't matter what price it is. Almost as ridiculous as UK whip rules..
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LOL....please stop it megsy, you are killing me.
Supposedly "haven't bothered to read their posts" (nobody believes you by the way, as you hand on every word) but still feel qualified to label them as crap......I'm guessing the irony is lost on you there.  |
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again.......
racingpost today He ruled out any possible trip to Hong Kong, Dubai or Singapore in colourful terms. "Why should we supplement every other bastard's racing around the world?" he said. "Let's supplement our own and enjoy her here for as long as we can?" However, Moody also told the Racing Post that Europe remains prominent in his thinking after Black Caviar has finished her Australian autumn campaign, outlining a schedule for 2012 taking in the Golden Jubilee Stakes at Royal Ascot and the July Cup before a tilt at the Prix de la Foret. "I'm as keen as anyone to see her race abroad but I want Australia to see her and enjoy what she does," he explained. "I tend to talk it down a little bit but the owners are very keen to go to Ascot so if she stays through her remaining races here unbeaten, then we would look at a prolonged campaign. "When she has finished here, I can see us coming over for the Golden Jubilee, July Cup and the seven-furlong race on Arc day. There's no need to rush back for a stud career or anything like that." Black Caviar's reputation meant she was next to unbackable on Saturday, when three rivals included Royal Ascot winner Scenic Blast. The final dividend of 1.03 on most pools represented an SP of 1-33 - but in some states, where it is allowed, no dividend was returned. Punters bet a dollar simply to get their money back - and they never had a moment's worry as she arrogantly dismissed her opponents by six lengths, totally eased down by regular rider Luke Nolen. "They aren't good enough to beat her here and nothing wants to run against her," said Moody. "The only thing that would stop me coming over is if she gets beaten because really that would mean something had happened - only misadventure could get her beaten. "I'm not being rude but horses like Choisir, Takeover Target and Miss Andretti - she would tow them. That's not me saying that, it is their trainers!" |
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ima_mazed66, everytime you post my mug-o-meter goes nuts
stop it man, this thing runs on electricity and my bill just keeps going up and up |
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it worries you that some of the best sprinters in the world are all australian-bred doesn't it, coming from a nation who retires their very best horses at the age of 4/5 for the pure reason of breeding, it must worry you, I know it would worry me
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Actually you are being a bit generous in regards retiring at age 4/5. A lot stop at age 3 & are hailed champions before they prove themselves out of there own age group or can win without giving weight to rivals.
Workforce's connections must be spewing. Imagine the reputation he would have if retired at 3 before he was found out as an older horse. |
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Actually you are being a bit generous in regards retiring at age 4/5. A lot stop at age 3 & are hailed champions before they prove themselves out of there own age group or can win without giving weight to rivals.
Workforce's connections must be spewing. Imagine the reputation he would have if retired at 3 before he was found out as an older horse. |
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* Sorry that should read Getting weight from rivals.
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i find it quite amusing, Black Caviar has a under rated timeform rating of 135 highest ever by a mare and her last 7 runs have been 130+
being rated by your own ratings as the best of the best sprinters. it makes sense that any worth while breeders who have a worthy male contender which would boost their stud value if they can beat her. and the prize money is worth 2 visits to ascot. ..so where are you? simple answer we all know, running for 2 prize like the other locals and not getting the allocades.....and yes for a change on the other foot, running your own horses with woolie coats out of their season. just like Frankel....top of the world ratings at a mile...if anyone wants to take his spot, they have to come to him...cant have it both ways....simple |
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December Draw and Glass Harmonium,Couldnt win an egg and spoon race in the Uk yet they win Group races when sold to the Aussies
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Wow! Black Caviar is a monster!
Without any doubt the BEST horse I have ever seen, racing in Australia. |
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I really think perception becomes reality in a lot of ways, so I like to pick people up early.
This is @onthesnaff. Glass Harmonium won 1 race in aussie so far up in brisbane, which is not good. He was very competetive in a lot of races but they were against fringe 1st tier horses / 2nd tier horses and a lot of the time he was carrying less weight than them (wasn't wfa). First time he stepped out in a proper wfa race (cox plate) he finished like 10th about 6-7L back. Pretty much what you'd expect from a horse who ran 5L or so off bywood and twice over last year. As for december draw, he improved once he arrived in aussie for sure. He didn't get to compete at WFA but he beat glass harmonium in 10f race carrying 2kg less, so probably would've been well back in the cox plate. |