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By:
oaklands22
When: 06 Oct 11 22:26
Hey cashless ... Someone trying to break the here ... Give him chance
By:
oaklands22
When: 06 Oct 11 22:26
Break the monopoly that was
By:
CASHLESS-LOOKING GOOD
When: 06 Oct 11 22:27
OK OAKEY
By:
jimnast
When: 06 Oct 11 22:28
thats a great idea paddy,
By:
oaklands22
When: 06 Oct 11 22:30
You lot must be sick of paying £20 every day
By:
oaklands22
When: 06 Oct 11 22:35
Paddy the percent a runner sounds good!.... Does that mean you would bet e/w 1/4 first 4.. Cos the place margin would be right then!... Just think all the e/w shop punters would come flooding back
By:
muldvap
When: 06 Oct 11 22:45
Cashless, yes I remember you, you were a bit shouty. You should have just asked.  Options A and C are a bit close together - rock and a hard place.  I think it was a 3 horse race if I remember rightly.  Thanks for pointing that out, that bug was raised an has been fixed - software in progress.
By:
You'vegotit
When: 06 Oct 11 22:47
I'm with you Oaklands. The £20 daily RDT charge is in my opinion really poor value for what you get in terms of support.
By:
muldvap
When: 06 Oct 11 22:53
Paddy, if you want high-grade explosives installed we might have to think of charging, still hardware sales might go through the roof.  Do you have any targets in mind?
By:
intheknow
When: 06 Oct 11 23:41
So if you have two seperate races on display (as shown on your website) does your laptop have a split screen too? Or do you have to have a) a second laptop or b) another window open on your sole laptop and switch between them?

I would think it's difficult to bet on two races at the same time and it would be confusing for the punters as well. Every bet you take "10 number one please" would be met with "which race do you want". I think you would be inviting queries from punters

Forecasts or maybe w/o fav will prob be okay, but not two races at once.
By:
sugarsteve1
When: 07 Oct 11 00:25
Good luck with this system.  I remember seeing you use it at the July Silver ring in August.

Not being a lover of change, i am personally very happy with RDT and their service, even at £20 per day.  Remember they are on course every day at every course, usually with a supply of spares and a reliable signal etc.  I will not be rushing to sign up.

In practice the need for a split screen for a forcast is minimal, certainly for me, in fact i  believe we can accept f/c bets with RDt if you want to in anycase.

Best feature will be its compatibility with existing equipment and being able to offer Betfair but i feel for simpletons, of which i class myself, you will be better staying where you are and that takes care of the majority. 

The lovers of IT will want to see it and play with it and possibly use it but again these will be in the minority.

That said, good luck and look forward to seeing you on course and hearing about your progress.  Regards Steve
By:
Davy Jones
When: 07 Oct 11 09:33
Muldvap  -Hope your new venture goes well. I must admit the option of the work at home clerk is particularly appealing as Im struggling to organise time away from family to go racing as much as I use to and this could solve a problem. My concern would be the network connection. Epsom Derby is one of my best meetings but this year I had no connection at all on the Saturday.
By:
muldvap
When: 07 Oct 11 09:58
intheknow, when displaying multiple markets you have one laptop showing the standard screen but you toggle between the two markets.  Generally, in our experience punters have been very good and when you have more than one win market displayed will indicate which they want i.e. "on the national, number 4....".

Obviously this isn't new, many books will have bet on two races before on the big days by having an extra white board with them.  Now they don't need the extra board.
By:
LuckyLucan
When: 07 Oct 11 10:05
Whatever happened to bookies who were not afraid of using a piece of chalk and a duster, calculated their own profit and loss using mental agility, employed tic-tac men and didn't follow the crowd?

Or are those days just a figment of my imagination?
By:
adge
When: 07 Oct 11 10:13
some of us are still here , lucky , and i still have that equipment under the bed [ not the tic tac man ] but if i got it out and used it i would be totally ignored by the modern public
By:
red lorry~ yellow lorry
When: 07 Oct 11 10:14
they went pop
By:
LuckyLucan
When: 07 Oct 11 10:27
It used to be great at the dogs when someone would have a bit of a plunge on a particular dog and the rest of the bookies were unsure as to what they were going to be hit with and in sheer panic they'd all get their dusters and wipe out the odds for all the runners until some order was restored.

Exciting days.
By:
uwgs
When: 07 Oct 11 10:29
It all sounds very interesting and i congratulate those involved.

I just wonder if the remote element would fall foul of the GC rules i.e. they cannot be sure that the person pressing the buttons is 18+
By:
MaxED
When: 07 Oct 11 10:46
Looks good, now there just needs to be a competitior with the led boards! Laugh
By:
allpoints
When: 07 Oct 11 10:48
When first reading this I wasn't taking a lot of notice but the operator being at home could certainly be of benefit to people like myself.
Quite often I miss meetings because my staff(family)are both working & they cann't get to the courses in time.For evening meetings they could finish work & then do the clerking.On a Friday the daughter has the afternoon off,so once again this brings the Friday afternoons into play for me.
Good luck with your system,for me it could certainly be a winner.
By:
whiskyalpha
When: 07 Oct 11 10:58
muldvap

Is it possible to enter your own meeting and runners to make useful for point to points
By:
intheknow
When: 07 Oct 11 10:58
All very well saying 'on the national, number 4 etc', if you had the national displayed then you wouldn't have any room to display another race.

If you had the 3.40 & 4.10 races up at the same time and they both had 8 runners, that's where the confusion comes in.

Overall, competition is a good thing & I wish you success
By:
fibber2
When: 07 Oct 11 11:27
yeah you can enter your own meeting data.  it does have a point to point download option also, but this is not up and running yet.

intheknow, you'd have the 2.30 race up at the top of the board, and the national would scroll round the remaining lines.  could do with a 40 line board though Laugh.  as soon as you get rid of the 2.30 race, the national would automatically use up all the board.  it is useful for feature races, not really for consecutive races on the day.
By:
LuckyLucan
When: 07 Oct 11 11:41
I'd love to be a bookie, shouting the odds:-

"Roll up! Roll up! Lucky Lucan will lay you any horse for any amount you want. I'll even give you an extra point compared to the rest of the bookies here. Roll up! Have a bet with me and you can have your next bet free! Can't be fairer than that. Lucan is yer' man for all races."
By:
democrat
When: 07 Oct 11 11:45
Needs to satisfy three main criteria - cost, simplicity of use, reliability inc. sustained connectivity. Oh and I forgot an acceptable audit trail ( so that's four ) - the tax man will want that !! [:(]
By:
IanP
When: 07 Oct 11 11:46
Were C&T using it at Belle Vue last night ?  I noticed that they were giving printed tickets.
By:
IanP
When: 07 Oct 11 11:48
On second thoughts, that could have been the bookie next to them.
By:
democrat
When: 07 Oct 11 11:51
What a system Ian - you take the bets and the tickets come out on the bookie's printer next door !!!! Laugh
By:
whiskyalpha
When: 07 Oct 11 11:54
LuckyLucan

Skint after two races then...
By:
muldvap
When: 07 Oct 11 12:53
MaxED,

cost - tick,
simplicity of use - hopefully a tick
reliability inc. sustained connectivity - confident software is reliable, but still working on getting better connection - so a partial tick, can do better!
audit trail - this is in progress, wont be a problem tho - just have to print out the database in a nice format.
By:
muldvap
When: 07 Oct 11 12:59
MaxED, apologies I got mixed up there.  The above post was a reply to democrat.  Do you mean were not competitive on the price of LED boards - or we need a competitor to the manufacturer?

IanP,

The Greyhound side of C&T parted company with the Horse side quite a while ago now.  I'm not sure what they use now, but back then it was RCS.

It's only the winning tickets that are printed from next doors machine, did we not mention that?
By:
LuckyLucan
When: 07 Oct 11 13:01
Nice one whiskyalpha.[;)]

Can anyone answer me this please. I seem to remember bookmakers having something on their boards to the effect that they were members of '.....bookmakers association' or other, and always used to wonder whether they all met up together once a month to enjoy some hospitality and plan some devious schemes to outwit the punters?
By:
MaxED
When: 07 Oct 11 14:13
Meant to what was currently available, wasn't aware you actualy sold them till just now.
By:
muldvap
When: 09 Oct 11 16:00
If anyone would like to have play with the software today, my mate will be available on Skype (elitebookmaking) to help you set it up properly if needed.
By:
adge
When: 09 Oct 11 16:15
going a bit far now [ skype ]
most using the RDT system break into a cold sweat if help is not holding their hand or within shouting distance
By:
chatto
When: 09 Oct 11 16:37
muldvap-Iwill give you a call in the near future-I am the one who chats to the vet.
By:
porfavor
When: 09 Oct 11 18:18
Hope I'm not being too cynical here, but this sounds like a pitch renters paradise.
By:
wasnot
When: 09 Oct 11 20:59
The 2 points where Exante have failed to address their users needs are with networking and reliance on 3g dongles from Vodafone etc.  The exante software itself is excellent and the system is totally configurable to your own requirements.  Without the networking and a wireless network on course it was useless to me as it failed most busy days.  Unless the new software includes a private network I'm out (as they say on Dragons Den).

Wish you well with it though.  Sort out a private network and the wireless networking of pitches together then, being alighned to betfair, you'll be on a winner!
By:
jimnast
When: 09 Oct 11 21:02
i dont understand technology but i promise you wont meet a more decent person than muldvap
By:
democrat
When: 09 Oct 11 21:03
I agree wassy. Have you ditched Exante completely. I believe some operators use it when it works but reluctantly opt for RDT at big meetings i.e they have both systems on their laptop.
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