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Yes, being aimed at the Derby 2012
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derby for 3 yr olds only paul.
and he'll never run in the arc imo. |
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so why were they on about him going for the derby 2011?
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derby for 3 yr olds only paul.
Don't listen to ILikeWavingAtBuses.. he is trying to confuse you. |
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frankel really need to win on the 15th oct to keep the image up over the close season
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becuase hes 3 now, he couldve run in the derby this yr but they decided not to run hi due to suspect stamina concerns!
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ryan
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reckon he'll win the QEII buses?
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becuase hes 3 now, he couldve run in the derby this yr but they decided not to run hi due to suspect stamina concerns!
He will be coming back next year to win the Derby, after a hurdling campaign through the winter. They've decided to go straight over fences, and to ignore a novice campaign, and go for the Cheltenham Gold Cup. They fear the 3m3f trip may too short though, so we might see him in the grand national afterwards. |
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paulme 02 Oct 11 22:16
so why were they on about him going for the derby 2011? They changed their minds and saw sense. Traditionally horses step up in trip as they get over, and connections felt as though 12 furlongs would be too soon for him this year, so going for the 2012 race |
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Champion Hurdle imo
might be a bit young yet though |
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^yes pal i think if he reproduces his form he'll win easily but u never know! the others need him to underperfom to win! |
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He will be coming back next year to win the Derby, after a hurdling campaign through the winter. They've decided to go straight over fences, and to ignore a novice campaign, and go for the Cheltenham Gold Cup. They fear the 3m3f trip may too short though, so we might see him in the grand national afterwards.
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i for one would love to see queally and frankel sailing over Becher's
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Well he is a beast of a horse, just a shame that he's worth wayyyyy too much money to be ever seen near a hurdle, let alone a fence.
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Champion Bumper then?
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If he met with an unfortunate accident involving his genitalia then he could make a great jumper imo.
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have any horses won big races on flat AND over jumps?
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JP Mcmanus seen with Henderson and a pair of nutcrackers sneeking into Cecils yard in the dead of night.
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yes
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he'd win a hurdle race over 6f.
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well then i wanna see Frankel in the national, and Big Bucks in the Derby
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Big Buck's should go for the Ascot GC imo
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Nice catch there paulme,not often ilwab gets into the net.(hopefully it was a dangle for a mackerel)
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haha i was thinkin it was a fishing exercise but i actually believe he didnt know!
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Frankel would have won that ARC Today imo,Without any shadow of doubt
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Definitely OTS,would have won easily.[;)]Btw SNA ran a cracker for you.
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oh the 3 year old thing? nah i didnt know actually
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Yes,was delighted to get a good run for my money gt,thought he had it turning for home
Strange run by WF,though cleary something wrong with the horse as cleary wasnt his running |
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Just the relentless pace caught him and others out imo OTS,wasnt the usual late sprint,solid sectionals.He got hampered similar to Sarafina last year but would never have won in a million years,ditto the others.
SYT was nice result but ran a good race just the same,being re-named for a US campaign So You Thought. |
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Brillaint,dont tell the aussies that one,i was on their forum earlier,their still very angry their moving on to Black Caviar as the best thing since sliced bread now Surely WF beaten too far too be true gt??form of stoute could be another factor |
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To go back to the question about horses winning big races on the flat
Royal Gait won The Champion Hurdle 4 years after being disqualified after passing the post first in The Ascot Gold Cup. There aren`t that many because historically geldings were excluded from practically all the big flat w-f-a races. Brown Jack won The Champion Hurdle and The Queen Alexandra Stakes ( several times ) when the latter was considerably more prestigious. A bit later Trelawny won the same flat race and the Spa Hurdle,which was the rather less prestigious forerunner of the World/Stayers Hurdle. The 61 St Leger winner Aurelius was very good over both fhurdles and fences after proving sterile,but I don`t think he won a REALLY big race. |
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im not an aussie but Black Caviar is amazing. when we gonna see him taking on our Frankel? maybe next years Grand National?
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Stable had him spot on OTS,molerat has been watching for weeks,said he was best he had seen him,so a mystery.However I couldnt see anything wrong with him,SMS looked well peed off though.
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thanks salmon
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no no its already been scheduled
feb 2nd 2.40 plumpton nov hurdle |
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what has buses? too many convo's going on here.
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Black Caviar is a she Paul
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bc v frankel race paul
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