And the winner wont be in the 1st ten who are 1st into the straight

Well,if your going to ba like that, I concurr RELIABLE MAN

I am ,put him up at the start,GLEN said no.

I think Nathaniel's a VERY good horse and will be even better next year... HOWEVER, he looks to lack a telling turn of foot or enough gears, imho, and you need one or both for the Arc

I think he may turn out to be a multiple KG winner who wins a breeders cup marathon - just mho

if he gets a good draw,being up with the pace could
be a big advatage to this horse.Did'nt get the credit he
deserved for his KG win,imo.

sarafina..robbed last year..payback time!

she needs luck in running,especially if it's going
to be a big field.Jock got her in trouble lto with
only 4 rnrs.Class filly but bit short in the market.
Should go close if getting the breaks.
Also was not the only unlucky horse last year.

Cheers for the info rsc.

Very happy to nail my colours to the mast of Nathaniel.

Can't understand why he's not shorter than he is - yes, the King George was messy but it was messy for him too. All you naysayers suggesting he got the run of the race and doesn't have a turn of foot are barking up the wrong tree - he didn't want to make the running at Ascot but was versatile enough to do it, and then he was the only one that quickened off it to dispel the myth that he is a grinder. Yes Workforce was not 100% but the excuses are stacking up now and Nathaniel was powering away from his field to win easily at the line.

He is the most progressive horse in the race - don't see how anyone can argue with that - and he acts with cut in the ground, stays wellm has been trained for the race, and hails from a Gosden yard that won the St Leger by bringing a horse long-targeted at that race to the boil absolutely perfectly for the big day.

As you can tell, for a change, I'm actually very confident on this one!

So You Think for me, oh no why did i say that, now all the forum know alls are going to abuse me

i think syt will improve for the 12f, dont know why people are so negative against him!! he might not win or even place but so many threads completely dismissing his chance like hes some kind of plater, he beat wf over 10f which only a v high class horse could do and also snow fairy a dual oaks winner but sure u aleady know that!! puzzling why people say he has no chance, even if he doesnt go close, theyre guessing now because on all know form and breeding he has strong claims imo.

i just wished he ran a bit more, seems to thrive on racing!

W/F/A Kenny.

I think Nakayama Festa is a great e/w bet at the 33s. Had a small punt on that, but don't really fancy touching anything til the day, too many variables. I do like Nathaniel, but not at the current price. Meandre looks decent value too.

If SYT turns up he will win this race. I've stated it on here for a while & backed it up with plenty at various odds. I've also backed it to win the BC Classic. This horse is unusual not yet comparable to Frankel or STS but I don't think we've seen the best of him yet. He's done very little wrong in fact his defeat to Rewilding was poor tactics sent to the front far too early. He's beaten a few good yardsticks & can only beat what's put in front of him. As for the trip well we won't know till he tries it I've heard '10f specialist' & I've heard 'crying out for 12f' well only Ballydoyle will know. Even they might not be sure. This will be his first big test against the 'cream of the crop' & I believe he has the class to do it. My biggest worry is Meandre as the horse ticks all the boxes Fabre 3yo supplemented etc. Don't be fooled by the Prix Niel Guyon asked little of him & I suspect that was the plan in fact several french backers where annoyed to say the least. I'll be the first to hold up my hands if he runs poorly but if he wins it I hope his 'knockers' have the humility to say fair nuff.

[;)]

Not many better MFA,only removed from my shorlist with reluctance.gl

Also got Blue Bunting for even bigger profit[;)]But don't think that will happen...again free bet. How long is your shortlist Molerat? Surely room for one more

Started with 5 pre the trials MFA but WF always been the main one,have to be rutheless sometimes and prune the tree.Think you have done the right thing but still expect a big run,AF knows what it takes.

Very interesting that Peslier said at the start of the season that the French 3yo fillies were better than anything in France, backed up by group one wins in all age/sex races for Moonlight Cloud and Immortal Verse. With this in mind I will be backing Galikova but my main bet will be on Nathaniel. Beat workforce before and will again because the 3yos are much better than the seniors. I wouldn't write off the Japanese horses either but I'm sticking to what has already been proved this year, can't see a reason why this years big race trends would change?
Be Lucky[:)]

Workforce beat a Japanese horse into second by the skin of its teeth with the rest of the field playing bumper cars, so with your opinion of Japanese horse why are you backing Workforce, he won an average Arc? He has won an egg/spoon race at Sandown thats it this year, the stable have had a bad year and why won't Nathaniel improve further hes very lightly raced scopey horse? Workforce a massive place lay for me and that should pay for a fish supper for the family.[:)]