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artie When: 23 Mar 11 18:09

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lammtarra1 When: 23 Mar 11 18:22

Ratings Plus are good
Frontline Software is good
relayman website has a nice ratings system called ashton

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artie When: 23 Mar 11 21:23

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ChatnameRegistered When: 24 Mar 11 13:35

Hi Folks

Have tried

http://www.infineform.com/results.php

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swift-tuttle When: 24 Mar 11 13:39

wonder if this thread is now being used by spammers

I just idly wonder, that's all

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artie When: 24 Mar 11 14:24

Doesn't matter,if they come up with something good.

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artie When: 25 Mar 11 02:34

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artie When: 25 Mar 11 15:43

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artie When: 25 Mar 11 22:22

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DaveEdwards When: 25 Mar 11 22:44

The problem with using any ratings service imo is that you are relying on the work of another to form the basis of your betting decisions.

You really have no idea how much work went into the ratings that you subsequently use as the basis of your wagering.

Which leads me onto the point of my post. Why not compile your own? If you cannot trust yourself to put the work in then who can you trust?

This is not meant as a reflection on AM or any other compiler btw. What I am suggesting is that there might be more mileage in doing it yourself. The information is yours & nobody else will have it. What could be better than that?

(before anyone asks, I am not topspeed)

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top2rated When: 26 Mar 11 07:33

DaveEdwards

Good idea.

I've already decided that when horseracebase simplify the means by which you can create your own ratings I'll be giving it a go. Hopefully that day is not too far away judging by recent blog posts.

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artie When: 26 Mar 11 13:46

If ratings compilers provide a large database so one can check the accuracy of the ratings, then one can find out "how much work" went into them.To compile your own ratings ,I think you need to be interested in the sport of horse racing.I'm not.I just want the money from betting.

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DaveEdwards When: 26 Mar 11 14:21

The following would never be able to be proved either way, but I'd quite happily lay odds that the best ratings have never reached the public domain.

Still you pay your money & you take your choice. If you prefer to use the same information as others & can still make some money then fair enough.

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artie When: 26 Mar 11 17:59

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artie When: 27 Mar 11 05:36

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top2rated When: 27 Mar 11 06:27

Looks promising.......

Rating Rank	Bets	Wins	Win%	Places	Places%	P/L
1	239	109	45.61%	163	68.20%	3.64
2	106	37	34.91%	60	56.60%	18.85
3	58	22	37.93%	35	60.34%	50.01
4	47	5	10.64%	15	31.91%	1.25
5	19	6	31.58%	12	63.16%	19.91
6	23	2	8.70%	10	43.48%	-4.25
7	17	1	5.88%	6	35.29%	-4
8	19	4	21.05%	8	42.11%	30
9	12	2	16.67%	6	50.00%	11
10	5	0	0.00%	1	20.00%	-5
11	2	0	0.00%	0	0.00%	-2
12	3	0	0.00%	0	0.00%	-3
13	4	0	0.00%	1	25.00%	-4
14+	2	0	0.00%	0	0.00%	-2

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swift-tuttle When: 27 Mar 11 08:47

vg
see that artie's No 1 requirement is, in fact, there

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artie When: 27 Mar 11 11:59

Not really.Those figures don't look like 5 years. Are they ?

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top2rated When: 27 Mar 11 18:42

No.

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artie When: 28 Mar 11 12:23

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Stow_judge When: 28 Mar 11 13:13

There's some to check on this list
http://www.ukhorselinks.co.uk/form-ratings.html
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Stow_judge When: 28 Mar 11 13:26

This one was recommended here http://www.expertbettingadvice.co.uk/forum/thread26384.html
http://www.racingfigures.com/index.htm
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artie When: 28 Mar 11 15:50

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artie When: 29 Mar 11 02:01

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sugarfoot When: 29 Mar 11 10:27

Now 11 seconds doesn't sound much but if 1 length = roughly 2.5 metres and 1 second equal roughly 5 lengths, in this instance 11 seconds equals 55 lengths. Now that sounds crazy!!! There is no way horse 2 will ever beat horse 1.
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before you start making some basic mistakes its worth understanding what "distances" mean. in UK racing, the finishing times alone are measured, but for historical (another word might be "idiotic") reasons, these are then converted to rounded distances, based on variable formulas depending on the type of race (flat, jump, aw) and/or going.

http://www.britishhorseracing.com/resources/media/releaseDetail.asp?item=085716

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sugarfoot When: 29 Mar 11 10:28

* its worth noting that the press release announces the change in calculation, so in effect a length had a different meaning before and after Feb 25 2008. well done BHA

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Colonel Trautman When: 29 Mar 11 11:06

RACEFORM INTERACIVE...Maybe you have heard of it?

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artie When: 29 Mar 11 15:41

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Colonel Trautman When: 29 Mar 11 15:44

RACEFORM..or are you too tight?

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artie When: 29 Mar 11 15:47

Does Raceform have a Database where you you can do research on the ratings for the last 5 years or more ?

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THE-POWER When: 29 Mar 11 15:51

arties firing blanks

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artie When: 29 Mar 11 15:55

Artie's asking sensible questions .

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Stow_judge When: 29 Mar 11 16:33

10 years flat & jump form in an Access database. Free to download. 9.99 a month for daily updates.
http://www.racingsense.com/download.htm
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Raceform is too expensive imo

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artie When: 30 Mar 11 02:28

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swift-tuttle When: 30 Mar 11 09:18

still drifting rudderless artie?

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artie When: 30 Mar 11 12:04

No,witlesstut.New Horseracebase seems to do the job I want.

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swift-tuttle When: 30 Mar 11 12:28

pleased to hear it

the upgrade is ongoing over the next few days they say

watch out for bugs

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artie When: 31 Mar 11 02:53

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artie When: 31 Mar 11 14:27

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duncan idaho When: 31 Mar 11 15:05

Thought you'd found horseracebase, artie....what's with the .s?