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Alan Potts --Pro Gambler
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Further to Against the Grain - after winning at Cheltenham when trained by John Wilson at Ayr He was bought by patrons of David Nicholsons yard and transferred to him.
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to all those who have commented that they like this thread, you should have a look at the other forum mentioned on the 1st page of this thread.
there are many threads as sensible as this one on there, as regular poster AP Racing would testify i'm sure. |
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racing needs good honest men like alan
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Alan
Sorry about mistake of ownership re Sizing Europe. Apart from that have you a view on the horse? Champion Chase or Ryannair ? Cheers |
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Malletiere,
No problem - you're not the first. My namesake had a winner at Wolverhampton one afternoon that was punted a bit, when I was there to watch one of my own horses. I reckon every member of the crowd stopped me to say well done, and Sean Boyce on ATR next morning announced I'd landed a gamble! I reckon Sizing Europe is a Champion Chase horse rather than going over further - but if the owner starts taking my advice we could end up in the impossible position of Alan Potts acting as racing manager for Alan Potts. Imagine the confusion that could cause. |
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I bet you wouldn't mind being a pound behind your namesake Alan!!
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Thanks
Not completly sure at the moment but I think I would side with Champion Chase route Will take a lot of beating where ever it goes. Yes that would lead to a fair bit of confusion, lol. Cheers |
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boys,iwil leave you some thoughts from andy beyer that mirror my own from time to time,every confirmed horseplayer is racked by doubts what he is doing with his life. he is playing the toughest game in world.even a winnwr will necessarily experience more frustrations than triumphs and when the frustrations come in rapid succession he may wonder if the struggle is worth it.having been reared to become an intellectual, i was seduced by horse-race betting because it offers more mental challenge than any subject in the academic world. few people ever master it. men that are successful in every other facet of their lives, can tackle racing and be frustrated, bewildered or even ruined. it is maddening that society confers its blessings on traditional academic pursuits but views the study of horse racing as utter frivolity.
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well sayed
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cheers
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Ye a real detailed and interesting statement also very true.
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Las Palmas,
I included most of that Beyer quotation in the first article I wrote for Odds On, back in nineteen hundred and something. It's a nice piece of writing that can be reduced to 'it if was easy, it wouldn't be worth doing'. |
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" 'it if was easy, it wouldn't be worth doing'. "
loosely translated in forum parlance = it cannot be done |
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Not sure if it would be financially and emotionally worth your while but timing an autobiography for the Christmas market at some point would be a good seller,maybe even great.I would certainly buy one as I find there is a real lack of reading material from authors that I feel are part of the fabric of this way of life.
Also does anyone know where I could buy Inside the mind of a professional by Russel Clarke(not on amazon or ebay) and any other recommendations for keeping the head straight type books? |
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dont know if its still available via the website but thats where i bought my copy "inside the mind of a professional"i enjoyed it and still have it but the only criticism being its more like a binder and not a book, plain A4 with gloss front and rear held together by a slide down sleeve, a bit shabby for £15 but as said a good read
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every confirmed horseplayer is racked by doubts what he is doing with his life. he is playing the toughest game in the world.even a winner will necessarily experience more frustrations than triumphs and when the frustrations come in rapid succession he may wonder if the struggle is worth it.having been reared to become an intellectual, i was seduced by horse-race betting because it offers more mental challenge than any subject in the academic world. few people ever master it. men that are successful in every other facet of their lives, can tackle racing and be frustrated, bewildered or even ruined. it is maddening that society confers its blessings on traditional academic pursuits but views the study of horse racing as utter frivolity.
Timeless. Those words should be automatically posted by Betfair every time another thread asking "How much can I make per week with a bank of £xxxx pounds" is started! |
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Alan, it is clear that although Beyer was undoubtedly right about the viewpoint of society as a whole, you personally have the blessing of the honourable society of punters... But the million dollar question is: Are you still managing to make it pay? The honourable members very much hope the answer is yes. All the best,
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I would just like to mention on here Alan's first class commentary on his premium rate tipping service following Frankie Dettori's magic 7 winners at Ascot back in September 1996. I was so impressed with Alan's commentary the day following Frankie's 7 wins that I decided to record his commentary for posterity as it was so superb and summed up everyone's feelings about the whole occasion!
Sadly, the tape came to an end before Alan's commentary had finished, so I only managed to record about 2/3rds of the 'speech'. That's something I will always remember. It cost me a few quid to listen to it a couple of times, but it was really well worth it! |
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Come on alan, we all want an autobiography, warts and all. What most autobiographies miss is the real feelings of people. I understand, due to libel laws, that you cannot say what you want some of the time, but I would like your views on your personal life etc and how horseracing has changed it. What I liked about your books was your honesty, you did not make out to make squillions betting.
As I said before I think you can do print to order, even on amazon. Look it up. PLEASE |
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russel clarke, last i heard about 15 years ago was he went abroad, spain? as a salesman?, i still have a letter off russ asking about my methods and i wrote him a few pages back, 6 months later he was up and running and went about publishing articles and books on his own methods, i think he loved horseracing and got his foot in the door that way but i seem to remember he was a nice chap.
you still cant beat the form book and ratings, so many stats that also make it easier. i still use my methods very well on 2-3 and 4 year old, improving horses only. lots on here have forgotten, to make it pay you need winners, lots of hard work, you make far less laying and even less trading. |
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his website seems to be gone so if anyone wants to sell his book or a copy of it..
also found this article from smartsig.Seems a fairly up to date interview. Sometimes has up to 3 figure bets on a football game nowadays! |
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http://www.progambler.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=390
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http://www.progambler.co.uk/index.php?
option=com_content&task=view&id=390 |
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*that should have read 3 figure number of bets on a football game
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Muqbil Joined: 18 May 03
Replies: 2022 28 Aug 10 07:22 every confirmed horseplayer is racked by doubts what he is doing with his life. he is playing the toughest game in the world.even a winner will necessarily experience more frustrations than triumphs and when the frustrations come in rapid succession he may wonder if the struggle is worth it.having been reared to become an intellectual, i was seduced by horse-race betting because it offers more mental challenge than any subject in the academic world. few people ever master it. men that are successful in every other facet of their lives, can tackle racing and be frustrated, bewildered or even ruined. it is maddening that society confers its blessings on traditional academic pursuits but views the study of horse racing as utter frivolity. Timeless. Those words should be automatically posted by Betfair every time another thread asking "How much can I make per week with a bank of £xxxx pounds" is started! Would be pointless. imo. The idiots that post such threads, couldn't/wouldn't read it:- a) too long and b) contains too many words they don't understand |
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"...every confirmed horseplayer is racked by doubts what he is doing with his life. he is playing the toughest game in the world.even a winner will necessarily experience more frustrations than triumphs and when the frustrations come in rapid succession he may wonder if the struggle is worth it.having been reared to become an intellectual, i was seduced by horse-race betting because it offers more mental challenge than any subject in the academic world. few people ever master it. men that are successful in every other facet of their lives, can tackle racing and be frustrated, bewildered or even ruined. it is maddening that society confers its blessings on traditional academic pursuits but views the study of horse racing as utter frivolity".
This really sums up why I'm so drawn to racing and betting! It's a love-hate relationship all the way. But even when I hate it, I still love it, but I never hate loving it! [smiley:crazy] |
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it is maddening that society confers its blessings on traditional academic pursuits but views the study of horse racing as utter frivolity.
I would suggest that society does not view horseracing as 'utter frivolity' but as a seedy hobby only pursued by stupid people. I went to grammar school and university , but throughout my life my family, friends and boyfriends, except the glorious few who have shared my interest, have, I think, thought less of me for betting on horses  They seem to think that I must be stupid to bet, seeing as they see it as a 'mugs game'. They do not see the intellectual challenge it brings.The only time one of my brothers was shaken from his belief was when I told him about the chartered surveyor who had won over £800,000 on the racing post's ten to follow competitions. My brother is a chartered surveyor and a fellow of RICS. Racing for change should perhaps focus more on changing the perception of the general public concerning horseracing. |
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i was once told that the best feeling in the world is backing a winner and the 2nd best feeling in the worl is backing a loser ...........
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Do you go into betting shops very often Annie ? if so whats the reaction of punters towards you ? if there are any left in your local betting office that is ....
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"........ focus more on changing the perception of the general public concerning horseracing."
think the perception is people who gamble are some sort of idiots, although horse racing can be a game of skill rather than pure chance, it is still gambling, although TV coverage does a lot to get over the glamorous image, but typical of the attitude that exists the poor bloke in the betting shop is still seen as some idiot low-life. |
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Gambling is a mug's game, FACT.
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you could say the same about horse racing ownership seeing as the majority of owners lose money
infact take football club ownership, now thats a mugs game of the highest order |
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educator
I have hardly had a bet in a betting shop since I started on betfair. However, most of my betting life has been spent in betting shops and for all that time I have wished I was a man in one. As you say, now they are deserted, but I remember when they used to be packed and you could have a good crack with the other punters. But I did have problems being a woman among men. |
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if alan wants to write another book i can get all the elements sorted for him, have it ghost written, proofed, published etc so no need to put too much time into it, no need to put any money up front either, genuine offer if interested ill send my contact details
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sounds like a cunning plan !
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Annie, to be honest I don't think there is any chance whatsoever of changing the perception of people about betting.
It's ok to have a go on the Grand National, but apart from that if you show any kind of interest then the average non-betting person is likely to assume all kinds of things about you. Those assumptions are never normally favourable. |
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Annie
first thoughts were lesbian and thats not meant as an insult as you are clearly not that based on the other comments you have posted, its just me admitting that even i have a prejudiced attitude which i can assure you is out of character for me. i wouldn't have the same attitude towards a female member of staff but my image of a female punter is one of "going out with an heroine addict" or as stated previously. I guess this is born out of an old school attitude and a self admittance that betting is for mugs and not for the more intelligent and fairer species, very chauvinistic but i am sure you understand i am not really like that. Never met an intellectual female punter that has a decent amount of knowledge about betting. Maybe you should write a book, "surviving in a mans world", tell a few stories of your betting shop experiences, throw in a few systems and strategies, your time on the forum, the prejudice shown to you even by your family, would be a best seller, oh just one thing needed to promote it, you need to land the scoop 6 , good luck with that  |
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Brilliant thread.
Re PVs book I found it a good read. Re writing books in general; no money in it unless you want to write sensationalised topical stuff. The reward comes from the people who readit and give you good feedback. If you get tempted Alan, I found Blackwells good, (minimum run 100), like you found the big book companies want to screw you into the ground; as bad as big betting chains.[;)] |
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My god, educator, you have made me feel even worse about going into a bookies if that is what men think
You say the image of a female punter is that of a girlfriend to a heroin addict or 'as stated previously' - what was stated previously? |
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annie....are you a winning or losing punter in you time on betfair??
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