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Alan Potts --Pro Gambler
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Anie
ask him to do a blog, that reminds me, is Agnus still doing his ?! |
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Plenty of takers i would have thought Annie, me included
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or was that Boycey I was thinking about [smiley:crazy]
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bloody N butto gettig stuck agai,
sorry Annie [smiley:crazy] |
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Annie,
You presume I still have anything worth saying, which I rather doubt. The modern world of betting changes so rapidly that anything written is quickly out of date, and my methods these days wouldn't fill an article, let alone a book. As for an autobiography, I can't imagine many people finding that interesting, but I can say for certain that I would find it mind numbingly boring to write! |
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Blogging is the way forward Alan,
all the celebs do it innit, do you Tweet imo ?! |
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Duncan,
I don't honestly think I gave away much in the way of goodies - my idea when I sat down to write was to get people thinking. My motivation, such as it was, came from the pleasure I always got from writing and even before the books were published, I used to write down ideas to get them clear in my own mind. My father was an English teacher, so I had plenty of encouragement as a kid. Things changed so quickly soon after the books came out - internet, tax free betting, this place, new AW surfaces, etc, that I never felt that any specifics in the books were of much use post 2000. Looking back at them now and it reads like a different and far more innocent time that I was reporting. |
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Alan,
How's Geoff nowadays? You two, me and loper used to enjoy a pint in the Grey Horse before Kempton, or even The Smithy at Wincanton. |
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Alan,
Do you still post on the weetabix site? |
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Thanks, Alan. Enjoyed the books in their day but, as you say, it's a different game now. If only we knew then what we know now! All the best.
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you are probably right Alan, better to stay a well respected author and gambler than sell out for a few quid.
integrity matters Respect to you |
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Thank you alan for your reply.
I would find an autobiography interesting though  |
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Alan - as I mentioned earlier your ATC book was one of my early reads as an avid budding gambler. I think an interesting thing about your books is more a state of mind thing, similar to Mordin's Betting for a Living book - it still makes you think about your own way of facing betting and it's ups and downs, so not completely outdated to read about those 'olden' days of betting. But you're right it did seem a more innocent time for betting. Perhaps places like Betfair made a lot of edges disappear.
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Alan,
Thank you for updating us with regards your books. I can understand your reluctance about producing another book given what happend. I do not agree that your books are now outdated,in my opinion they are still extremely informative and as you stated "they make you think" which is needed by all serious punters,to take a pull and re-think their methods. I am sure if you ever decided to produce another book it would be a best seller because you talk common sense and given your experiance,wealth of knowledge it has to provide us lesser mortals valuable information, coupled with sensible rules to follow. Regards |
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Yes - the Aesculus Press/Odds On bankruptcy. They sent all Odds On subscribers a list of those owed money. Painful reading - had at least £8 outstanding. Not a bad magazine. I seem to recall they decided to go online and hired a bunch of IT consultants - who bankrupted them without delivering a thing. The usual story.
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Bodil,
The owner of Aesculus was easily fooled by the IT boffins, as he had absolutely no knowledge of computers or the internet. Unknown to most, he was in fact a hereditary peer, and was preoccupied by the legislation to remove him and others from the House Of Lords at the time his company folded. Given his background, I suspect he thought a website was something you put on the barrel of your gun when you went out to shoot spiders. |
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The book Against The Crowd & Clive Holt's book Winners Back Winners For me, are the best 2 books on the subject of betting on horse racing. The ratings formula in the latter book is very helpful for newcomers to the game, but its some of the other information, that at the time of reading didn't make much sense, but I now know it was, and still is, worth it's weight in gold. Those 2 books and along with learning from my own mistakes (the best way to learn in my opinion as there is only so much to be gleaned from books) and my own personal experiences have shaped my betting to a fairly successful degree.
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I didn't know that Alan - the peerage part that is. Truly, IT people are the rabid, bloodsucking hyenas of our age.
Actually, I should retract that. Unfair to hyenas. |
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'Against The Crowd' Alan Potts
'7-4 to lay 9-4 to play' Clive Holt If you only read as far as the inside cover of both books, then you've learnt plenty |
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Bodil,
Without wishing to make you feel bad, I should probably point out that before turning to gambling full time, I worked in IT for 25 years! Must be a really dull afternoon's racing to get so many responses on this thread .... |
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Alan- said hereditary peer died a couple of years ago, sadly.
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You must be the exception that proves the rule, Alan.
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Do you still specialise Alan??, if i remember you changed from liking staying Handicaps on the flat until you switched to sprinters being ahead of the handicapper of speed figs
Enjoyed both your books, although i must admit with the event of Polytrack ive now joined the "Here be Monsters" brigade, apart from a few events |
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Hello Alan. Without wanting to come across as a big sycophant, I really enjoyed both your books, especially the inside track, and using the methods in it I have turned a nice profit on the AW over the winter. It also helped me to gain a better understanding of analyse pace in races. So thank you for writing it and what a big shame there won't be another one.
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I got the second book, I have said on here before it was the best gambling book I have ever read
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Alan, you have got so many replies to this thread because in your books and on here you sound like a decent, genuine man. I have read loads of horseracing books, yet yours always stood out for me, not just for your information about horseracing but the genuine way you presented yourself.
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Against the crowd one of the best books to teach you the mindset needed for betting. But as Alan says its a very different game these days. Most money is made by players doing other things than normal bets imo.
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howard, could u please expand on the statement "other things than normal bets".
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Backing to lay, laying to back, In-running, Fast pic hoovers...you name it they do it!
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Alan Potts has always been willing to share information and is a thorough gent - unusual for someone in the cut-throat world that is gambling.
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well said the mole.
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What a great thread,remember when it used to be this way? There is hope for the forum yet when a sensible topic is discussed and amazing how many long time posters have emerged on this thread.Great to hear your thoughts.
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'Looking for advice' thread last seen at 16.01 wasnt bad either today, blackpool
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This forum did indeed used to be an excellent place.
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cheers duncan,will check it out.
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My thanks for the kind words offered - they are worth more to me than any monetary benefit I might (or might not) have gained from the books, as they tell me that my writing hit it's target with the readers. Anyone that has ever written anything for publication will tell you that's the big prize.
It certainly never occurred to me at the time that they would still be discussed almost fifteen years down the line. Especially when they were written, to paraphrase Nevison, by a small time punter living in a bus shelter and existing on beans on toast. What he never knew was that when I had a big winner, I'd splash out on a bottle of brown sauce as well! |
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Brown sauce and beans? Major faux pas.
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I hope you have had plenty of "brown sauce".
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To be fair i still use Nevison's first book too.
...but then i do have an extremely wonky table. |
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Nevison has 19 jobs...
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