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Anyone remember these old jumpers........
Anyone remember these old jumpers........
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Border Incident was a real favourite of mine - suffered too much from injury problems unfortunately but could have won the Gold Cup one year but for a bad mistake resulting in yet another injury - Richard Head was the trainer as I remember
My favourite jumps horse has always been Night Nurse - genuinely a great horse - Paddy Broderick rode him and he had what shall we say - an individual style of riding - some fantastic hurdlers around in the mid to late 70s - Monksfield, Sea Pigeon, Birds Nest - the memories of a great era for hurdling remain to this day |
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Obviously too many replies to read through but for me .. at the start of my love for racing were Dessies adversaries - Kildimo , Charter Party , Vodkatini , Yahoo , Sabin Du Loir. Great days :)
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Remember Beau Ranger?, Buroche Girod, Piman, Snowshill Sailor, turnell, Fouloon, walwyn, Galway Blaze fitzgerald, Gay George walwyn.
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Bueche Girod - one of the best looking hosses I have ever seen. Neck like a stallion at six.
Looked like a very slightly less classy version of the later Strong Promise  |
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He couldn't half jump Blackburn, I backed him newbury, had it won at the cross fence.
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i remember being off school for a week in march 1990 and watching the cheltenham festival with my grandad. great memories and the start of my love of racing. lots of the horses that ran that week give me a nice nostalgic feeling. obviously norton's coin is a big memory and also henry mann storming down the hill to win one of the big handicap hurdles
topsham bay, seagram, just so, suny bay, the grey monk, dr leunt, gingembre, looks like trouble, grey abbey, jodami are horses that would feature on any list the 80s were slightly before my time but i have to say that they seemed great times to be a NH fan with favourites like burrough hill lad, dessie, wayward lad, forgive n forget, silver buck, pearlyman, panto prince, carvills hill, west tip, combs ditch, etc |
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Buona notte. Grey of falloden. Richard of Bordeaux. Kings Nephew. What a Myth.
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The Mighty Mac, Broncho, Roman Holiday, Red Candle, The Fossa, Stalbridge Colonist, Summerville, Cuckholder, The Bo Weevil, Grand Canyon, Siberian Sun, Tree Tangle, Gay George, Killiney, Grey Sombrero, Charlie Potheen.
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Mighty I think he was Broncho II was trained by Dickinson senior. He was running the same day as the champion hurdle in the last race - it must have been 1976. Betting tax was prohibitive in those days and if you were backing two horses on any given day you could split your bets on the first into a single and a double with the second selection so that you would have effectively the same win singles on both thus saving tax on the second (provided of course the first won). Anyway I backed him with Night Nurse but got them ass-about-face which meant I had nearly everything going onto Broncho in the last. So a bit of sweating involved that day but he delivered at 11/2. My mistake won me a considerable amount. Unfortunately the horse later got injured and was put down.
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It was the Mildmay of Flete forerunner to the Byrne Plate.
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Yes, arklearkle, BRONCHO II to give full name. Good story. He was a grand horse and it was sad that he meant such a tragic ending.
 Dickinson had some great chasers in that golden era. |
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I haven't read all this but I just wonder if anybody remembers a chaser called Wingless from the mid-60s. He was useful but not top-class. I used to have the form books which suggested he won his last 2 races and then disappeared. He was definitely a grey and might have been trained by a guy called Champneys. The odd thing is I can't even find him on the Thoroughbred Database.
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million1.........I remember Von Trappe, remember him turning an absolute somersault at the water jump at Ascot with Dunwoody on board. Ran in the Gold Cup as well, think it was Dawn Runs.
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Fabulous-cheers glad sombody did---a few old others i remember and loved----Kapeeno--Rondetto--Spanish Steps--Nick the brief-Playshool-- The Dikler--Spartan Missile---Over the road---and my 2 all time favs--West Tip and PEATY SANDY
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Donegal Prince trained by Paul Kelleway had a few touches, remember when i was about 13, my Dad god rest his soul, had tip for him in Fighting Fifth it won think it was about 12/1. But Ekbalco whom i recall was very short priced fav was cruising behind him at 2nd last i think,pretty sure Jonjo jumped out the side on purpose. Would love the be able to watch again
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Bruni, was an Irish-bred, British-trained Thoroughbred racehorse. In a career which lasted from 1974 until September 1977, he ran twenty-one times and won five races. He recorded his most important victory when winning the Classic St. Leger Stakes by ten lengths, one of the biggest margins in the race's 200-year history.
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Dont think Bruni was a JUMPER!!!
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Flash Imp was a good duel purpose horse, seem to remember he got 3rd in a champion? maybe Comedys second, was there when he won the Great Met at Epsom, when they used to go through the middle
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salmon spray - I don't remember Wingless, but I've found a reference to it that came out of something I remember my dad saying in the 60s - "back Biddlecombe when he rides for Champneys"....
So here's a bit from John lawrence's account of his Natinal ride on Carrickbeg... “Who’s coming with me on the outside?” Dave Dick as usual sounded cheerful, and I followed him to the right of the field alongside Tony Biddlecombe on Wingless. Starter Alec Marsh (who knows how it feels) did not keep us waiting long and soon the Melling Gate flashed by, with the first green and grim ahead." I presume JL was correct in saying it was Tony, rather than Terry, but my dad's "theory" might still have had some substance. |
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..he ran in that National with 10-0, looks like was an 8yo, with form figs of 00-2000, and ridden by A Biddlecombe.
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...and as for the thoroughbred database, if you mean pedigreequery, it's not very good for jumpers.
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Thanks ged. Yes I do mean pedigreequery and I have found a lot of old jumpers on there. There was definitely a trainer called Champneys but I'm not actually sure he trained Wingless. I had only just started following racing in the Ayala/Carrickbeg year so don't remember Wingless in that race,but he was around the following season. Then in 1964-5 he showed improved form,won two races easily and then I am fairly certain never ran again. Presumably went wrong.
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Champneys was the trainer for that '63 National. Owner looks to be Mr O H Gilbey.
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I started following around that time too. I remember writing down the full list of finishers for that year's National. Frenchmans Cove was last of the 22 to finish (I don't remember Wingless though), and my childish mind thought that he must therefore be a rubbish horse.
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here's another bit of info about Wingless, from a piece about Tony Biddlecombe by Rodney Masters from an RP of 2001:-
"The best horse with whom he was associated was useful chaser Wingless, on whom he achieved his career highlight when winning over fences at Sandown in January 1962. However, the same horse also provided a major disappointment for him when falling in the 1963 Grand National, leaving his rider with a broken shoulder." |
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...that's why I didn't remember him. He wasn't on my hand-written list of finishers!
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I think he was best at 2 and a half miles,though of course there was a theory then that was what you needed for the GN.
I'd forgotten all about the lesser biddlecombe tbh. Gilbey rings a bell though. I have the 64-5 form book somewhere but can't find it at the moment. Talking of Frenchman's Cove didn't he win the King George in 1963-4 from only one opponent ? |
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Wingless won the Mole Handicap Chase on Sandown card of Friday, Jan 12, 1962, under Mr A Biddlecombe (D Nicholson rode the 2nd, W Rees the 3rd). Form figs going into it look like 4-20113. Earlier winners on the card included Pas Seul and Flame Gun.
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...2m 4f 75y.
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I wouldn't remember that ged.Suspect he may have lost form then and come back to it in late 1964.
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Frenchman's Cove beat one rival (Jay Trump) in the '64 KG. It was his 6th win at the track in 7 starts. Mill House was withdrawn an hour and a half before the race because of the firm ground. Frenchmans Cove had been favourite to beat Mill House the year before, because it was thought the track might be too sharp for Mill House.
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Frenchmans won the Whitbread in '62 as a 7yo. He was top weight in the '63 National (some rubbish horse!)
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Tony Biddlecombe was champion amateur in 61/62. Rode for Ken Oliver. Quit at 28 to run the family farm in Gloucs.
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There must be a lot of OAP's on this thread! I can certainly remember most of Arkle's races. I was at Newbury for the Hennessy when Mill House beat him and was shell shocked when Arkle turned the tables at Cheltenham. The first Gold Cup I saw on TV was Pas Seul. Managed to get to a friends house near my school to watch it. First ever Festival live attendance was Salmon Spray winning the Champion Hurdle. My local ptp course was Didmarton where a few Festival winners made their early reputations such as The Dikler.
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But do you remember
Halloween Mont Tremblant Galloway Braes. Crudwell. All Brilliant Chasers. |
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remember watching stan mellor win on OUR EDITION who was trained down our road winning i think at nottingham on the itv7 ....was it his 1000th winner??
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Re Wingless, think the owner may have been Capt. G H Gilbey not "O H" but could be wrong. Colours - Claret with Grey collar/cuffs and a quartered cap if that helps.
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blackbarn - quite likely. I was reading off the Glasgow Herald scan. Some issues are more legible than others, and they do have spelling mistakes of their own. One card that I was looking at from '84 the other day had Francome spelt with a 'b' in some races, but spelt correctly in other races on the same card.
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if you type in Ayala Grand National on Pathe News site, the race is shown in colour.Wingless was number 29 and now we know the colours can be seen about 2/3's the way down the field on the first circuit.
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