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zilzal1 24 Apr 12:22
'Something will have to give soon, probably a few racecourses' Zil - wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing imo... |
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Point being missed is that the Bookmakers built their empires on horseracings shoulders, they are now promoting other products above the sport.
im not interested in who wins etc, but the perception that you can must be there, otherwise there will be even more of a drift away. In a far more open society and 24 hour news, internet, etc, news travels fast, the outside public have indentified racing with being insular and secretive,Horseracings rulers have not served the sport well over the years |
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Let's be perfectly honest - most recreational punters don't think they have a hope in hell of "beating the odds" on a long term basis, but they do think they have a chance of landing a win on a day to day basis. Bookmakers serve their needs and both parties are happy.
It is easy to overestimate the importance/relevance of semi or professional punters. No-one bar these punters gives a toss about whether they win or how easy it is for them to get on - and rightly so. Net winners serve no purpose to anyone bar themselves. |
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I agree with that MVA which is why the absolute skanking of the once a year punters on the GN is a much more worthy cause to shout about, imo.
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Mr Angry
That state of affairs only exists because losing punters have been conditioned over the years to expect little from their betting. This topic is not just about 'getting on' but the whole package of dishonesty that percolates through bookmaking and into the media. Most punters are kept in a state of stupidity by the media in order to maintain this lucrative gravy train. |
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Mr Very Angry is both angry and correct I believe
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No joshuag - this situation exists because gambling is a business. In general terms in gambling you are buying a chance to win on a one-off basis, but you pay a small premium in terms of value from the betting operator for that privilege. That is how this industry, which brings in millions of pounds of revenue, works
We all know that there are ways of turning this situation around so that we as punters are getting the value - but don't expect any huge crusade from anyone (journalists, ruling bodies etc) to fundamentally change the basic realities. It would be akin to a wine journalist showing outrage that supermarket customers are being asked to pay more for a bottle of wine than the supermarket paid their supplier. |
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"brings in millions of pounds of revenue"
I dont know if its your intention Angry but please dont try to convince me with the idea that taking advantage of the gullible public amounts to some soprt of social just due to the revenue it brings in. No one is asking journalists to mount a crusade on behalf of punters, all we are asking is dont do the opposite ie- keep totally quite about the imjustices that take place or as in AD's case promote an avenue of betting that is doomed to failure and totally destructive. No one gets a big payoff from FOBTs. The wine analogy doesn't stand for me. We expect a premium to be paid its in the overropund and the profits bookmakers make after deducting losses to winning punters |
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Mr.Angry i would go further and say that recreational punters are frightened to death of winning on a regular basis. They dont want the pressure of taking it seriously.
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I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Just telling you how it is.
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