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The Grimster,



Good morning. Calm down mate, heart attack time !

Thanks dr hal, point taken.

Is yo yo b d hal??

grimster,
if BD wrote you cheque for 73k did you expect him to be happy about it.
give him due credit for taking your bet in the first place

diddles 9.38 and 9.42.
apart from my fellow bookies who post on here.these 2 postings are the most common sense that anyone has said on the national,most people talk a load of **** on here.BUT WELL SAID DIDDLES.

btw i'll be at newmarket craven day..look for the 5k sign

Once again the on course books getting mixed up, (and in some cases) arguing for the high street fagins....

Good morrow hal... I'm surprised at some comments on here tbh..

155%, is this a theoretical margin of less than 1.5 % (1.375 me thinks)per runner? If someone had to price up on a football match would you squeal at 105%, on the boat race would you object to 103%, surely 1.375 % per runner is not outlandish even if this was a true figure ....most on-course boys will have been 14's the winner so as so many have stated its the s.p. system that is flawed not the on-course boys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11

That's my whole point, is'nt it hal ? All the kerfuffle is about the sp returned, and no one is slating the on course books..

yoyo..well said...grimster= BILLY LIAR...morning darling.

yoyo 12 Apr 10:26


why do anonymous dreamers make up stories to bigtime themselves?

nobodys ever won £7K off me at Brighton let alone £73K.

Hey?? your ob not him then.

You wrote a chex for 73k to the ex owner of misaro, i know it, the real b d knows it, It was 73 because there was a r 4 on it.

i know its rgt because we helped he get the money on, so your the one bigging yourself up.

adage il find you at newmkt, yo yo i wont walk up to b d, because he wont have a clue what im talking about!!

Here's all you need to know about Gary Wiltshire, as quoted in the Racing Post: "It is all right saying the winner paid more on the exchanges but don't forget Betfair's market is win-only, and on the Grand National most punters want to play each-way."

Now, if Betfair is win-only, as Mr Wiltshire claims, how come my son had £20 in the Betfair place market on State Of Play which finished third? Is third not a place?

How much longer do we have to put up with these so-called loveable**ney geezers? If it's not** it's Wiltshire and if it's not Wiltshire it's Greeg Wallace off Masterchef. Cor blimey guv, you're a bleeding toff an no mistake, do what, leave it aht, do me a favour etc, etc, etc...

LAMBETH WALK 12 Apr 10:44


yoyo..well said...grimster= BILLY LIAR...morning darling.

Oh boy the loons woke up.told you hed be along like a fly to **. S.A.D.D.O

And you would know would you?

YO YO I would like to apologize, ive just double checked you laid him 4k at 11/2, which is a lot more than the 7k you claim text reads . . . . .


no mate he laid me 4k at 11/2 but ever since hel only take monkeys off me, hes lost his balls i reakon.

still that was a decent bet to lay.

** this is hard because i dont know if your the real bd or another** like lambeth ive got ** all to say just snipe walk.

Still dont know ..WAS THE SP RETURNED DURING THE RACE OR AFTER?
If before:-
Would this thread exist is Black Apalachi (2nd) had won at SP 14/1 against BF 16.5?
Or if Big Fella Thanks (4th) won at SP 10/1 BF 10.3/1 ?
Or if the outsiders from 50's had been offered on the books closer to their true chances, giving an overround of 1% per runner ???

If this was a**after the race by shortening the winner ridiculously, dont you think theyd have massaged it just a little bit more on the non placers so that the overround didnt stand out?

155%? profiteering?? what a laugh. I don't see anyone complaining when Harrods mark something up by 400%! Whatever, if on course laying was that good, rings wouldn't be empty

FACTS
"At a gaff track during a slow week day - you will still see punters taking a price on a horse - which is priced higher on the boards either side of the bookmaker they're betting with ! A lot of punters are clueless - bless 'em. Now, multiply this factor by 000's - and you have GN day. To Diddles point, punters are betting their money - totally oblivious as to whether the price they're being given is higher,lower, correct or otherwise'

Being an arguementitive Oldgit I always take issue with Bookies offering a 1/5th when it should be 1/4 odds.
And as for ones trying it on with 1/6 or even 1/7 odds...
One firm Allen Caldwell of Recar come to Plumpton on Bank Holidays and Ladies Day when there is a big crowd. He has a a big enough sign on his board saying 1/6 odds a place in all races. I asked him once how he gets away with it and why anyone bets with him. He said they are all stupid and think that 1/6th is more than 1/5th.
At that time he had the second Fav at 3'sin a seven horse race when all the rest had 7/2. and people were still having their two quid EW way him.

Oldgit1

....amazing isn't it !

Imo,
Diddles, the proper on- course bookies, and Hal and any shop bookies, are all making good points.

My long held view is that SP is bollix and nothing to do with the real Ring.

As some have pointed out, the interesting mystery is who let the cat out of the bag about an hour before the race?

As usual, the media didn't seem to have a clue; neither did the "sharp brains" of the unlicensed layers on btfr.

I'm starting to think that btfr pay people like pythia and some of the other comedians to come on here and spout anti-racing **e.

Btw, I'm fk all to do with any bkmakr and never have been - unlike some of the most anti-book on here, who, from what they tell us, use to run a shop in the past.
I'd begin to wonder wtf happened to make them so bitterly anti-book? Did they get the elbow for arbing on here in working hours or something?

its a fact that most on-course punters place there bets before 1.00 ...........gimme a break what a load of bull shizt