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By:
chipstore
When: 09 Apr 10 17:17
*streak

Also it's stake not steak!
By:
Rednolan1984
When: 09 Apr 10 17:18
Personally Hunter, I lay using a percentage of my bank as my Stake for each bet. For this particular venture, I'm laying at 0.4%, 0.6% & 1.0% of my bank. So originally my stakes, with a £4,000 bank were £16.00, £24.00 and £40.00.

Every time the bank is increased, so to are the stakes. However, when I have a losing day, ie Yesterday, The stakes remain the same
By:
ilikewavingatbuses
When: 09 Apr 10 17:19
i like steak!mmmmm
By:
Rednolan1984
When: 09 Apr 10 17:21
Originally when I had a go at this, I started with £2,000, got up to £10,000 or so in 53 days. Had two devastating losing days in three and called it quits after winning £8,200. That was an experiment, and so to is this. Trying to discover what it takes to ultimately go full-time at this game. However, I am a long way off from that dream. Maybe in a couple of years once I've ironed out my faults
By:
chipstore
When: 09 Apr 10 17:35
Interesting. I think I would do a lot of work in the mornings and select the races and losers before racing starts. As you say there are certain races to avoid. I've noticed too that in races of 7 runners or less the fav often loses. However I don't think it pays as the ratio of win/lose isn't big enough to make a profit. I've tries to c/f and multily but you get caught out. I think I would create a list of do's and don'ts in race selection, particular choosing those races with strong trends, then lay horses in those races using your type of staking plan.
By:
hunter71
When: 09 Apr 10 17:43
TANKS RED sorry about missteak
By:
chipstore
When: 09 Apr 10 17:45
:-)
By:
Rednolan1984
When: 09 Apr 10 17:52
Laying Shammick Boy in the 5.55 at Kempton. 4.2 for £30.60

GB / Kemp 9th Apr / 17:55 2m NHF Shammick Boy Lay 10589293442 09-Apr-10
17:51 4.2 30.60 4.2 09-Apr-10 17:51
By:
chipstore
When: 09 Apr 10 18:03
Red, Did you manage to isolate the cause of the losing streak or was it any number of factors that went against you. I'm sure there is a system out there. I have lost a lot running into tens of thousands and am determined to get it back somehow. I really feel stupid and have made some stupid bets.
By:
Rednolan1984
When: 09 Apr 10 18:08
Won't be about for the 6.45 at Wolverhampton, so will post my lay up now. Laying Prime Defender for £20.40 at 5.5


GB / Wolv 9th Apr / 18:45 6f Hcap Prime Defender Lay 10589452718 09-Apr-10
18:03 5.5 20.40 5.5 09-Apr-10 18:03



Should be back in time for the 7.45, considering laying Atacama Sunrise, but will decide upon that nearer the time. If I am not back in time, I will lay it on my phone and let you know if I did, and how it got on
By:
Rednolan1984
When: 09 Apr 10 18:09
Chip, the reason for the losses was a combinatio of factors, a bit of bad luck, poor selections on my part and probably a bit of chasing also!
By:
chipstore
When: 09 Apr 10 18:11
ok. at least you had the sense to stop and re-group with a finer tuned system.
By:
Rednolan1984
When: 09 Apr 10 19:42
DAY TWENTY-ONE STATS

Today: 10/10 (100.00%)
Overall: 152/184 (82.61%)
P/(L) - 3.7% Comm: £235.74

Bank Incr. month: £232.13
Bank Incr. (20/03): £936.13


Great to get back on track today after such a bad hit. Hopefully more of the same from here on in. After 21 days, my bank stands at £4,936.13 with tomorrow's stakes remaining the same as today
By:
chipstore
When: 09 Apr 10 19:52
That's 11/11 today I think RED. Well done. A couple of 2nds in there but thats bound to happen. So assuming all the bets were 6/1 which is the worst case scenario, you could absorb one winner to make a profit if you see what I mean (if you bet 11 markets a day). Therefore with your plan and mixed odds =7.0 you could probably absorb 2 winners and still make a profit i.e. 9/11 lay wins. Well your selections seem to be good. I assume you retain the staking plan until you reach and surpass your previous high bank which was £5,100 (assuming 30.60 is 0.6%)?
By:
Rednolan1984
When: 09 Apr 10 23:05
Just 10/10 today, I opted against placing the Atacama Sunrise lay.

The following are my football lays for tomorrow:

A VILLA - A Villa/Chelsea, Odds = 7.0, £20.40
Under 1.5 Goals - A Villa/Chelsea, 4.8, £30.60
DONCASTER - Doncaster/West Brom, 3.95, £30.60
MK DONS - Norwich/MK Dons, 6.56, £20.40


Horse lays will follow tomorrow
By:
hunter71
When: 10 Apr 10 09:58
red im thinking of flowing your system how do you pick your horses to lay is it all form
By:
chipstore
When: 10 Apr 10 13:00
Hi Red

Are you around today?
By:
Rednolan1984
When: 10 Apr 10 13:42
DAY 22


Trying to lay Duke Of Lucca in the 1.45 at Aintree as my first lay. Will keep my lay up IR to nick a price, before removing if untaken
By:
Rednolan1984
When: 10 Apr 10 13:48
Duke Of Lucca was unmatched
By:
Rednolan1984
When: 10 Apr 10 13:56
First lay then, is American World in the 2.00 at Chepstow. 4.0 for £30.60


GB / Chep 10th Apr / 14:00 2m Hcap Chs American World Lay 10597664012 10-Apr-10
13:55 4 30.60 4 10-Apr-10 13:55
By:
chipstore
When: 10 Apr 10 13:58
Ive already laid American World and am dutching Pistolet Dove and Duke des Marais
By:
chipstore
When: 10 Apr 10 14:01
Also laying littledon Alder as price comes in
By:
chipstore
When: 10 Apr 10 14:07
phew !!!
By:
chipstore
When: 10 Apr 10 14:09
210 Won't lay at 6.6 although on the drift. Dutching 2nd and 3rd fav along with my old fave Beckermet.
By:
Rednolan1984
When: 10 Apr 10 14:40
Next lay is Celestial Halo for £20.40 at 6.6 in the 2.50 at Aintree


GB / Aint 10th Apr / 14:50 2m4f Grd1 Hrd Celestial Halo Lay 10598602895 10-Apr-10
14:39 6.6 20.40 6.6 10-Apr-10 14:39
By:
Rednolan1984
When: 10 Apr 10 15:17
IR lay of Zaahy 7.0 for £20.40

GB / Ling 10th Apr / 15:15 1m Listed
Zaahy Lay 10599482824 10-Apr-10
15:17 7 20.40 7 10-Apr-10 15:17
By:
Rednolan1984
When: 10 Apr 10 15:23
Attempting to lay Carlitos in the 3.25 at Aintree. If unmatched prior to race, will leave the lay up IR for a few furlongs
By:
Rednolan1984
When: 10 Apr 10 15:26
Couldn't get the horse matched, and was ultimately pulled-up
By:
chipstore
When: 10 Apr 10 15:34
Still recovering from Khyber Kim as I thought Celestial was over priced and backed him. Ironic as Khyber is one of my standard bets! Got some back there though. I do like Richard Johnson
By:
freddiewilliams
When: 10 Apr 10 15:35
chip please dont clog up this thread
By:
chipstore
When: 10 Apr 10 15:35
Looking to get Strategic Approach beaten in the next
By:
chipstore
When: 10 Apr 10 15:36
ok sorry
By:
Rednolan1984
When: 10 Apr 10 16:57
Trying to lay Ghizao in the 5.00 at Aintree at 7.0 for £20.40
By:
Rednolan1984
When: 10 Apr 10 16:58
GB / Aint 10th Apr / 17:00 2m Hcap Hrd Ghizao Lay 10601528882 10-Apr-10
16:56 7 20.40 7 10-Apr-10 16:57
By:
Rednolan1984
When: 10 Apr 10 17:28
Traded out of the Aston Villa lay by backing them back for an overall loss of £7.54.

Fixtures 10 April / Aston Villa v Chelsea / Match Odds
Aston Villa Back 10602136206 10-Apr-10
17:27 5.9 47.93 5.9 10-Apr-10 17:27
By:
Rednolan1984
When: 10 Apr 10 17:34
Laying Don't Turn Bach in the Aintree Bumper, 5.4 for £20.40


GB / Aint 10th Apr / 17:35 2m1f NHF Dont Turn Bach Lay 10602267037 10-Apr-10
17:33 5.7 20.40 5.4 10-Apr-10 17:33
By:
Rednolan1984
When: 10 Apr 10 17:42
P-ed off I missed out in laying one at the first at Wolvers. But having a decent day so far (Touch wood and all that) so can't complain too much. Especially with a last min equaliser in the Norwich/MK Dons game getting me out of trouble
By:
Rednolan1984
When: 10 Apr 10 18:12
Laying Tamino in the 6.30 at Wolverhampton for £20.40 at 7.0


GB / Wolv 10th Apr / 18:30 6f Hcap Tamino Lay 10602866860 10-Apr-10
18:10 7 20.40 7 10-Apr-10 18:11
By:
Rednolan1984
When: 10 Apr 10 18:58
Will leave a 7.0 lay for £20.40 in the 7.00 at Wolverhampton of Flow Chart
By:
Rednolan1984
When: 10 Apr 10 19:00
Will only be left for 2f
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