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6/4 Emotionless
15/8 Air Force Blue
10/1 Deauville
10/1 Tasleet
12/1 Tashweeq
14/1 Buratino
14/1 Herald The Dawn
16/1 Massaat
16/1 Gutaifan
20/1 Galileo Gold
25/1 Zhui Feng
25/1 Foundation
25/1 Shogun
33/1 Air Vice Marshall
33/1 Birchwood
33/1 Ibn Malik
33/1 Sanus Per Aquam
50/1 Painted Cliffs
As much as I would love to see Emotionless vs Air Force Blue at this stage, I highly doubt O'Brien will send him over. I'll happily be proven wrong though.
15/8 Air Force Blue
10/1 Deauville
10/1 Tasleet
12/1 Tashweeq
14/1 Buratino
14/1 Herald The Dawn
16/1 Massaat
16/1 Gutaifan
20/1 Galileo Gold
25/1 Zhui Feng
25/1 Foundation
25/1 Shogun
33/1 Air Vice Marshall
33/1 Birchwood
33/1 Ibn Malik
33/1 Sanus Per Aquam
50/1 Painted Cliffs
As much as I would love to see Emotionless vs Air Force Blue at this stage, I highly doubt O'Brien will send him over. I'll happily be proven wrong though.
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Would love to see aob send a strong team to the breeders cup this year.
Theres no harm throwing the better 1s into the dirt races. Gleneagles cant see running but would love to see it in the classic.. The classic looks a cracking race this year |
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I personally view US A racing as seriously tainted by the legal use of doping. I hope Europeans boycott the farce.
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If he does come over & the ground is no slower than gd, i would expect Air Force Blue to win it.
He looks a cracking prospect, the best so far with a 2000gns view imo. |
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Completely with you on that one, however I fear the harsh reality may be AOB not bringing him over and an odds on Emotionless.
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....but you surely had to be impressed by Emotionless lto? The time was mediocre (a concern) but he trounced a horse I rate (Ibn Malik) and the pair were clear. You'll also have to travel a long way to find a better looking colt - something that will resonate with die-hard Nick Mordin acolytes wrt to next year's Guineas.
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Emotionless does look a very smart 2yo, with plenty of scope, but on what i have seen so far, i like Air Force Blue more atm, backed him @ 14s for the 2000gns. If they both go for the Dewhurst & the ground is no worse than gd, i would be with the AOB colt with the impressive G1 form in the book.
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So looks likely Emotionless vs Air Force blues may well be on Saturday, watching the Emotionless video of the York run he really does cruise into contention and could have won by twice as far if he had been exerted saying that I am not sure that we have seen the best of AFB yet either. Assume the ground is riding around G/S at Newmarket at the moment and surely that won't stop him taking part. Hope they both make it as it may well be a preview of the 2000g next May. If i had to put my neck on the line i would chance AFB as long as it was decent enough ground, just think the collateral form of his races is stronger. Looking forward to a great race
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Looks that way just now but long time between now and Saturday. I'm still not convinced AOB will send him over. Looking back at previous years races, you could argue that he doesn't send his main Guineas contenders over for this.
2014 - he ran Smugglers Cove who didn't make the 2000 Guineas, only ran in the Irish 2000 Guineas (no Gleneagles) 2013 - he ran War Command who made the 2000 Guineas but was surely not seen as their number one (no Australia) 2012 - ran George Vancouver who made the 2000 Guineas but was the biggest price of the 3 who ran (No Mars and no Cristoforo Columbo) Don't get me wrong, I really want to see Emotionless vs AFB this weekend, I'm just not so sure he will want to expose his hand at this stage and the first meeting between the pair will be the 2000 Guineas. He's entered Waterloo Bridge, Shogun and Lieutenant General. For me, he will most likely only run Lieutenant General. |
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I think Paterson92 may be right. I have Air Force Blue only 1lb ahead of Emotionless but the way the latter's last race was run I think that's as good as he is, unless he makes more physical improvement. I reckon Air Force Blue is already better than the bare form and if he runs I'll be backing him at the prices, but I expected him to be fav here so that makes me question if he really is an intended runner.
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Betfred now have Emotionless at 10/11 and Air Force Blue a standout 7/4.
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O'Brien said: "Air Force Blue seems fine and it is so far, so good for the Dewhurst on Saturday.
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Ahh the good old "good ground" statement again, starting to get deja vu here ...
AIR FORCE BLUE is on course to bid for a third Group 1 win at Newmarket on Saturday, although trainer Aidan O'Brien wants to see ground no slower than good for the colt's Dubai Dewhurst Stakes showdown with Emotionless. The ground on the Rowley Mile changed from good to firm to good, good to soft in places yesterday, although the forecast for the rest of the week is mainly dry. O'Brien said yesterday: "He's in good form and it's a case of so far, so good with him for the Dewhurst. Obviously he appreciates nice conditions, so we're hoping for good or better ground for him." O'Brien, who has trained three winners of the Dewhurst - Rock Of Gibraltar (2001), Beethoven (2009) and War Command (2013) - added: "We have three other colts in the race but Air Force Blue could be our only runner." Air Force Blue is a best-priced 7-4 in a market headed at 11-10 by Godolphin's Emotionless. O'Brien's colt achieved the first of his Group 1 wins in the Keeneland Phoenix Stakes at the Curragh in August. The ground, which was good for that six-furlong event, was officially yielding when the son of War Front landed the National Stakes by three lengths last month." |
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I'll believe it when I see him in the stalls!
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emotionless will win whatever O'brien sends over.
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next 3day weather forecast is for dry mild weather. Could well be on the faster side of gd come Sat, certainly no slower than gd.
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Taking a bit of the 15/8 on here about A F B.
If right about the ground come Sat, he wont be that price, fav imo. |
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The price on here seems to suggest he won't be running despite what O'Brien says.
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If he does not run, it wont be because of the ground, if the weather reports are right,
Am willing to take the chance for a few £££ he does run. |
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Only 7 standing for the Dewhurst; Buratino is out (Godolphin) but Air Force Blue in, at the moment; should be interesting if it remains like this.
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any particular reason why it wouldn't?
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Cracking race in-store all being well
 1st & 2nd favs for next yrs 2000gns going into battle Hope the weather men & women have got it spot on, could be on the quick side of gd come Sat. |
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I rather like Massaat though I'm not sure he'll handle the dip too well as he is a big heavy topped type.
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Really looking forward to this match up although the dewhurst has thrown up a few shock results in the last few years. Both horses should appreciate good ground and hopefully it will be a cracker.
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Air Force Blue now into fav on here, thats about right imo.
Ground should be about gd 2moro, no excuses for anyone if running up to their best. Air Force Blue for my £££. |
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Air Force Blue now into fav on here, thats about right imo. Ground should be about gd 2moro, no excuses for anyone if running up to their best. Air Force Blue for my £££. had you mentioned you were backing him before? I hadn't noticed!  |
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pick of the morning prices
11/8 AFB joes 8.30AM 6/4 Emotionless 6/4 9AM |
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yeah at the moment more like 11/10 AFB and 11/8 Emotionless at the moment
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thats bookmaker prices not betfair ones
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Backed Air Force Blue to win and the Bolger horse and the Johnston horse in the place market.
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Wincing running in the Coventry, of the 25 horses AFB has finished in front of, only 3 have gone on to win another race. 4 in total, a class 4, 2 class 2 and a group 3. That form doesn't read much to my eyes, and being a War Front, he would be best on faster ground, even though he's won on softer going.
I'm on Emotionless, who could have won by a distance lto and never really had much of a race..proberley the most exciting 2yo seen this season. |
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how can you say emotionless form is better .It isn't ,the one thing in emotionless favour is that he is huge ,look's a very big 2yo , which makes me wonder how much he will improve next season ,in his defence some horse called frankel did . But am with AFB and if he gets beat well ,it just means il get a bigger price for the guineas
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I've not said that Emotionless form is better, just that there are plenty of holes in the favs form, whereas, Emotionless has the best ( visually) performance from a 2yo this year.
Agree about the size quote, reminds me of Berkshire the other year. |
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Adventurous €8 at 125
Thank me later (that you didn't back it) Please MONEYTREE would come on here and advise us to lay it. |
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MACHINE
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Looking good for the Guineas, Miller.
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Most impressive
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Most impressive
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Fingers x J B "24" He looks the real deal
Hopefully all going well to next yrs 2000gns, he is something to look forward to, very classy 2yo with plenty of size & scope to be even better @ 3. |
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Brilliant performance by the winner - wins the Guineas barring injury or terible wetaher.
Vrry pleased with Masssaat's performance - definitely got Group 1's in him next year. |