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** Prix de L'Arc de Triomphe **

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By:
Charlton2005
When: 15 Oct 15 13:10
I know that such simplistic views as expressed by Charlton are not in the majority on this thread, thank goodness otherwise survival at this game would not be possible. I thank all those who have contributed much to the debate whether I Agee with them or not. At least they show their knowledge and experience whereas Charlton does not.

sounds like sour grapes from another loser wondering how the simple approach managed to back winners at 7/1, 3/1, 6/4 and 4/5 all in the same race.
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Charlton2005
When: 15 Oct 15 13:11
But to dismiss the going and the draw belies an unbelievable lack of understanding.

what moron dismissed the going?
By:
Charlton2005
When: 15 Oct 15 13:26
5 5+ olds are at a disadvantage at the weights compared to 3 yr olds at this time of the year over 12f

hihm please
By:
Charlton2005
When: 15 Oct 15 13:33
Fallen Angel 04 Oct 15 19:49 Joined: 06 Jan 05 | Topic/replies: 1,999 | Blogger: Fallen Angel's blog
Timeform did an article about three days ago saying there was a very small draw bias stalls 1-4 in the Arc but nothing discernable for any of the stalls outside of this. It heavily swayed me, I can add a link on here.
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RozelKid 04 Oct 15 19:12 Joined: 20 Aug 09 | Topic/replies: 1,210 | Blogger: RozelKid's blog
Well i will ignore the draw in future - at the end of the day the best horse in the race always wins ...whatever the draw.


the angel and the kid know
By:
FELTFAIR
When: 15 Oct 15 17:34
SadSadSad
By:
ffs
When: 16 Oct 15 16:57
sounds like Donald Trump - you's are all losers, total lightweights, you just gotta check the ratings, I'm a ratings machine :D
By:
Charlton2005
When: 17 Oct 15 13:42
muhaarar top rated 1st 3/1
simple verse top rated 1st 7/1
solow top rated 1st 11/10

where's the mug who said you can't make money backing the top rated?
By:
Charlton2005
When: 17 Oct 15 14:13
fascinating - "big step up on performance"

check the ratings and send the hihm in please

top 3 rated - 1st 2nd and 3rd
By:
Charlton2005
When: 17 Oct 15 14:21
FASCINATING ROCK who recorded a career best last time and should relish the conditions.

watch and learn boys
By:
FELTFAIR
When: 17 Oct 15 14:39
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By:
Charlton2005
When: 17 Oct 15 14:41
snooze you lose fella. i'm guessing you don't withdraw much from this a/c
By:
Madhu
When: 17 Oct 15 14:46
Absolute prate prat
By:
FELTFAIR
When: 17 Oct 15 14:46
zzzzzzz   zzzzzzz  zzzzzzzz
By:
Charlton2005
When: 17 Oct 15 14:52
prat

is that what the losers call the winners?
By:
FELTFAIR
When: 17 Oct 15 14:56
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By:
kincsem
When: 17 Oct 15 15:21
Anyone have the Charlton2005 post count (1) before Arc (2) after Arc ?
By:
breadnbutter
When: 30 Oct 15 21:12
This thread is still anoying the feck out of me , and been thinking ,there is a right few donuts that posted on it ,but there was a few whos total contribution was to make sure the thread was not going to deliver ,they  sidetracked continually and a think they need named shamed and given very short thrift on the next one ,not sure about all the steaming afters ,but he sounded very angry indeed ..... A think he failed to back the winner after listening to the utter tripe that was pasted on here Laugh
By:
ffs
When: 01 Nov 15 00:06
In the Breeders Cup, Found won the race, but more importantly Golden Horn won the ratings,  :P
By:
Figgis
When: 01 Nov 15 08:51
Personally I thought it was a decent thread, with people coming at the race from different angles and offering stats and opinions on a variety of factors that can influence the outcome of the race. The opinions weren't all agreed on but they were opened up for debate which is always a good thing in my view. I think the only real divide is between people who see a race purely as a puzzle to be solved and those who see it as an event with a multitude of possible outcomes where the challenge is to accurately price those possibilities.
By:
ffs
When: 04 Nov 15 00:18
Figgis,

that's quite a good point, and it reminds me of the old dichotomy of whether to "back the winning horse, or the best value horse".

maybe it's more interesting to search for the outright winner, but no doubt if you value money then you search for value,

Anyway, it's clear the ground played a major role in Golden Horn winning.

Moreover, given his form on fast going he should probably have been about joint favourite.

Great thread and great race as always, and a very worthy winner.
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