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brigust1
When: 26 Sep 14 10:21
^Hughes in the following race I mean.
By:
ffs
When: 26 Sep 14 10:34

Sep 26, 2014 -- 8:42AM, brigust1 wrote:


Do you really think Australia is all speed ffs? I've yet to see it. That's just hype in my opinion.


no, i was only joking .. everything is about speed w A O'B .. in the Derby he obv came from off the pace and caught KH who had gotten a handy lead, and did it travelling beautifully.

Obv Joseph doesn't want to get off him, hence the QE2 comments, but Tabor did fairly rubbish the idea though that was when Kingman was in the frame .. So, would that change their mind .. I doubt it, but I'd love to see him race Toronado.

By:
ffs
When: 26 Sep 14 10:40
Though I don't see Ryan Moore contractually obliged to ride anything in the Champ Stks ... ??
By:
brigust1
When: 26 Sep 14 10:46
I'm sure Ryan will keep his options open.
I've always thought Australia would beat Kingman over a mile. But the fact they are never going to meet means part of me would like to see possibility of more hype removed. I don't think Toronado is unbeatable by any means and Hughes ride in the Sussex should have been absolutely slaughtered but it wasn't. Not that I thought Toronado would win but he removed every possibility the moment they left the stalls. Financially I want Australia to run in the QE11 but the interest has more or less gone now.
By:
ffs
When: 26 Sep 14 12:43
hmm .. that's interesting !

I guess Hughesie was still in shock from the James Palace where they had gone fair clip and Kingman just destroyed NoT ... must have thought the only way to beat him was catch him sleeping ... and in fairness he did go odds-on in-running if I'm correct
By:
ffs
When: 26 Sep 14 12:45
But you're right, in that playing to Kingman's sprint speed is suicidal . James Doyle was wise in the PJM and if anything that's where they should have tried to stretch him, on heavy ground aswell.
By:
Andrew in Sweden
When: 26 Sep 14 19:52
Hi Brigust, sorry I missed your 11.09 post yesterday (busy Bee here) Wink

I'm convinced Australia will be taking the champion route (not the QEII), it's his for the taking and he's the one I will be on. That aside, not seeing Kingman is a disappointment, but that's racing and I hope another of my favs, Sprinter Sacre will be raising the pulse in December Grin
By:
brigust1
When: 27 Sep 14 13:37
You are probably right Andrew. Trying to second guess trainers is a task all of it's own. Henderson has been making favourable sounds about SS so lets hope he meets Sire de Grugy along the way. Still some mileage in the flat season to go though. Take care and have a good Ascot.
By:
ffs
When: 27 Sep 14 20:26
and who do you think will ride Australia - I'm thinking Ryan Moore - but what if Michael Stoute supplemented one of Arab Spring, Cannock Chase or Hillstar ???
By:
brigust1
When: 27 Sep 14 20:39
I have said for a long time Coolmore is bad for racing and if they aren't running Australia in either the Arc or the Champion stakes BECAUSE JOB cannot do the weight that proves my point. No wonder AOB was so disturbed after the Leopardstown defeat it never sank in until 4 am, the next day. The best laid plans of mice and Coolmore.
By:
ffs
When: 27 Sep 14 21:11
yeah Brigust, fair enough, but what about R Moore - is he stuck or could he choose Australia ? JOB won't be doing that weight again
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