Well done Sint , nice price , had TL for a place so won on the race , Dettori must have been instructed not to overuse KH imo

Haggas thrilled to bits, good to see!

I said beforehand I hope there are no excuses. Can't be any, can there?

Well done Sint and others.
Great shout and win.

The puzzle would be more realistic to solve if they didnt have the Prince Of Wales as the only race on the round track at R.Ascot as well. Pea-brains on top and in the race planning dept?

The Fugue obviously got into trouble when the split closed - other than that no excuses for any. Field of non-stayers and average types. Poor race and form won't mean much down the line.

Well, apart from laying The Fugue (another F&M to add to the poor record in this race) I don't think I did anything right. Will now give up on WC,KH want's further/soft, NOT needs to drop back. I've got a fast time figure so don't think that the beaten jockeys were completely brain dead to stay out of the fast pace but nothing seemed to pick up. The fav was given too much to do for sure but she probably hadn't got over her fast run at RA. Well done those who picked the winner - certainly was a big price.

It is a pity. You wait for a solidly contested Group 1 and it ends in drama. We learned nothing really except that the winner is clearly better than the 2nd and 3rd over 10f. Really like Haggas so if it had to go to anyone he will do for me.

Just watched the 6 runner fillies1m listed race on CH4+1 and even there the first and second were in front all the way. Clearly there is a massive pace bias towards the front end.
Not saying Mukhadram was a lucky winner as The Fugue was below par as most predicted she might be, NOT didn't stay and KH needs further and softer. True Story, War Command and Verrazano just look well below a Group 1 standard.

*close for me

Cheers all. Well done Rease and Mac.

I backed Mukh at Ascot too Uncle so nice to see him run like he can. Coming into the Eclipse last year his seasonal debut was a g3 win. This year it was a 2nd in the Dubai world cup so he has improved. Nice TTF points today !

...less traffic on his immediate inside.

What a strange year?,I was not impressed by the 3yrlds today,My first thought was that if anyone had ante post bets on Australia winning the Arc,they may well want to sell.

Hi MJ. How are you? I'm just planning Breeders Cup trip. Stop jumping to poor conclusions. Do you want to buy a Arc ticket for Australia? Actually I think the 3 year olds acquitted themselves OK. The front 3 nicked the race so without them the 3 year olds didn't look that bad. I know the form is unreliable but that is all we have at the moment. And NOT still looks like the 2nd best 3 year old miler at the moment. At least they learned he probably doesn't stay 10f and may go back have have a proper crack at Kingman, maybe in the QE11, unlike the soft time he gave him in the SJP.

Hello Brigust,Australia is the pick of the 3yrlds,and proven his ability,my doubts surround the quantity of 3yrlds that seem quite closely matched,the Guineas being the starting point,a great race,but not a great bunch of figures,form worked out very well.Australia for me is a little bit below what i had expected,AOB expressed his view that this could be his best ever,I am not at all convinced by the visual evidence,the Derby was workmanlike,and the Irish Derby did not reveal anything?,I suspect better to come on a quicker surface,but not sure this horse has an electric turn of foot? The breeders looks his best target,and he may improve with age.I would not take him too the Arc,and they may just put him too stud  earlier than expected?

Hi sintonian,I believe you could expect improvement at four,but the fact they seem quite quick to put him away does make me think,in a similar way to yourself.

They need to get him a rating brigust,nothing noteworthy yet?You gotta beat the older horses to get an inflated rating,not sure they will be that keen?

I watched a recording of the Irish Derby and he never impressed me either. Maybe JOB was too confident. However the Guineas and Derby form looks the best around at the moment so the only way really should be upwards.
It's hard getting ratings I think because some of the races aren't that great. I listed above the horses The Fugue had beaten and none were great shakes so giving her a high rating by beating horses that never turned up or were not great shakes doesn't sit well with me. All I want is horses to turn up on their A game over a trip and on going that suits. I thought the Eclipse was going that way but it became a bit of a mess. Cirrus des Aigles has won 5 races since meeting Frankel and three were Gr1 but the horses he beat have not won a race between the since. How can you rate that?

Well done Sint and other winners! Great ride by Hanagan and proper performance by Mukhadram. Having backed him e/w in the POW I wouldn't have been surprised to see him get placed yesterday but always felt something would possibly have too much class for him but he was a good winner in the end. You would think NOT is a non stayer, Verrazano was back to his old ways of chucking it in and The Fugue wasn't at her best on the day. I'd agree with others in this thread that there were far too many poor rides in this race. To let the race get away from them as easily as they did was inexcusable and what Buick was up to I have no idea. I see they have made excuses about the ground but I think she was probably just feeling the aftermath of her big run at Ascot. I don't think the 3yos ran badly. Somewhat ran well from a decent position and Kingston Hill ran on well he just needed slower ground/further.

It did pay to be up with the gallop or just a couple of lengths off it at Sandown yest.
But for me that's nothing new about races their on fast/ish ground.
Most of the big hopes were not close enough (far from it) when the winner struck for home, it was all over from that point imo.
No the best race for 3yos winning this over the years & the best one (3yo colts 10f) Oz was not their after opting to run in the Ire Derby instead .