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The Jehovas Witness comparison is coming back to haunt me
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Anything better to do? I've just finished writing my eighth book. I rebuilt my son's car engine last year completely and am currently building a new eco friendly house for my other son. It is completely solar generated with geothermal heating and evacuated tubes and rainwater harvesting. And it is built in a beautiful sweet chestnut wood. Don't bother Jehovah he hasn't the time.
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Well done. All that and still able to do a better job than the official handicappers, Timeform, and anybody else wasting their time handicapping horses. As I said previously, a remarkable human being
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I never said that. Of you go again. Strange. And you know full well the only gripe I have with Timeform is very well founded. And if anyone wants to handicap horses or swim the channel good luck to them. It is not for me I'm afraid. Nothing remarkable either. Just good time management. A love of what I do and I have no hidden agenda. Just good honest toil.
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dont think montridge will ever win a group 1 race,
probably not but this was not a strong group 1 race hence backing a group 2/3 horse to win it...just one group 1 winner running and it was a drifting favourite...if you tipped the horse on another forum a couple of days before, you clearly knew the ground would change how it did wouldnt put anyone off betting their fav horses, one of the most successful ways to bet is on horses you know and like. lol roadrunner i am mercenary and certainly not into favorite horses, else i suppose i should of been all over olympic glory saturday who i have shared some good days dont see how you could see the possiblity of it beating tullius, that was an easy winner, and although hasnt won much, starting to improve now, thats another horse that will be group 2/3 level at most. i think your missing the point - tullius had shown his best form on a soft surface and saturday was run on nearly a good/firm surface which should of favoured montiridge who was making his seasonal reappearance at sandown on ground not ideal and is 2 years younger and open to more improvement anyway the game has clearly gone easy for some, i should of known he had no chance of turning that deficit around on his favoured surface like you point out...like i said in the opening post i felt like a mug backing the horse and you have certainly confirmed that with a good summary of the horse and why he couldn't of possibly of gone well against these mediocre horses |
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Good for you, I somehow doubt the 8 books would be about betting horses.
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moonlight cloud form is excellent form, that horse has proven to be top class group 1 performer, who ran the famous black caviar to
within a short head at ascot, olympic glory was rated 4th best in the european 2yo ratings, hes proven at the top level, like you say wasnt strongest of fields. had a saver on tullius just in case, the LINCOLN form has been working out very well. as has been said few times on here, there are always few lesser competitive group 1 races in the calendar, still not easy to win. hope this matter is settled now, have answered you to the best of my knowledge. gl |
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No I try not to tell other people what to bet on. I get into trouble for not doing so sometimes but I refrain. I did tip Danedream at Ascot at 10/1 and I did tip Dynaste at Aintree last year at 9/4. I also tipped a loser. And I suggested a bet in the Champion Stakes which won. That I think is the sum total of my advices so I will leave it to others who know more. Anyway I doubt a book about betting would sell the number of copies required. I just hope when you get to my age you don't look back and think about the time you have wasted in your life. That would be sadder than stalking me.
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Brigust, this was a thread I was already involved in before you chimed in with your usual pitch. I just hope for the readers' sakes that the books provide more insight than your racing related posts, or, at least, more positivity.
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Bitchy. Bitchy. I am not going over all that again. Will you never learn? I thought you were working on your numbers?
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Nope, this afternoon's racing.
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Good grief. I never bet in races lower than Grade 4. Never bet in handicaps. Never bet at Towcester. Almost never bet on the AW. Never bet at Southwell. Never bet in 2 year old races before Ascot. A day off.
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That doesn't surprise me that you have strict rules. I prefer to bet when I see an opportunity, or sometimes just when I'm in the mood to put in the effort.
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I won't be having any bets until possibly the weekend. That suits me fine I have plenty of things to do. But if it works for you go for it.
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Well, there are different scales of bets and the tastier stuff is always in the better races, for me. However, I don't see how it's possible to get a complete handle on all the better stuff if you completely ignore the lower grade races. Horses step up, and there has even been a Leicester nursery winner that won a Gp1 next time. There are also horses that have run at grade 1 courses stepping down, if you've got the information you might as well use it. As I said, it also sometimes depends on the mood.
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There are always exceptions to the rules that is why punters back losers and I am no different. I just cannot fill my head with day to day dross. I give the races I consider an early look. If I need to 'study' the form I think then probably the race is not for me. But of course there are many ways to skin a cat and many types of bet now available to us. I have a list of the bets I consider and if the race suits then I select the bet that best suits the race. It doesn't take long and nowadays it seldom includes ante post betting because prices are often better on the day.
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find notebooking long lists of horses the best approach to finding winners, everyday when the emails arrive, already have list
of potential bets. running a list at the moment, 327 notebooks, so far have accumulated over 144 wins from the list, averaging 11/2 at SP'S for the winners. one year will be completed at the start of september 2014. then will start another long list for next years flat season, hopefully will have few winners on the all weather through the winter, and start up again next summer. took me 6 weeks worth of results to sort through to make my list, good thing is most of them wont race again till the next season. the others that do race usually through winter do well on the all weather. my favourite horses are the improvers, they usually improve 20 lbs or more through the season. always looking for these types. dont like notebooking winning favs, some make the list. |
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Verrazano is a beast....followed him from his debut win right through the season....smashing horse...a beast.....reminds me of Point Given......but ****......he will let you down when the guns put to his head...very talented but let the side down a bit last year,
Maybe he was still a baby and just found the hustle and bustle of some of the races he went for too much....the derby....22 and 44 for the first two quarters...first four home came from a mile back and Verrazano was chasing it early. then that insane BC Dirt mile where Goldencents clocked crazy sectionals...Maybe Joseph did the right thing Saturday in teaching him his job again. He strikes me as the type who might fall in love with Goodwood. |
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Very surprised to see Olympic Glory is being aimed at France on Sunday.
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Same here, though it's good for the race. Could it because they do not want to class with Toronado at Ascot?
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Looks that way, sint, but seems a bit soon to me.
Al Shaqab racing manager Harry Herbert confirmed Olympic Glory's likely participation in the Group 1 over an extended 1m1f. He said: “At the moment I would say we are very likely to run him. It is an unusual move but he is a very tough and hardy horse. Looking at all the options and knowing that he is kicking and bucking, Richard said to me that we should seriously consider this.” Obviously they think he can take another quick race, they might be right, but it wouldn't be the first time we heard this before a race then after a below par effort it's said the race came too soon. I don't believe he's improved from last year anyway so he's not a horse I wanted to follow after the Lockinge. I also think CDA isn't quite as good as he used to be (no surprise given his age) in spite of his good defeat of Treve. Just a watching race for me. |
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so you dont think the horse is capable of improving this year, hope it beats CDA on the weekend. suppose will need to keep winning to improve on the 125 OR. its no sure thing and at the prices on offer, just a watching race. possible will put the horse in a few multiples on the weekend. do thing the horse had an easy race LTO. CDA is a formidable race horse even at 8 years old, maybe there
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I can't say he won't improve, just that I didn't see any evidence of it on Saturday. I already rated him highly on his QE2 win so he didn't need to improve for the Lockinge. I don't think he needs to improve to beat CDA as an 8yo either, that's assuming he'll get the trip, I just prefer to follow 4yos that have shown improvement, if a horse has peaked there's a danger it will begin to regress.
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Smoking Sun was well beaten behind Treve & CDA last time out and nearly one a Group 1 at the weekend in Singapore.
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thought OG hated Longchamp....
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are they having a laugh, OG was racing beyond beyond 8f for the first time
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