How far would Treve have finished in front of those 3?

thanks for clearing that up Brigust.

Yes, no doubt she was the 'moral winner'

The one time Coolmore could actually have done with a pacemaker or two (even if only to disrupt the oppositions pacemaker) is the one time they forego one.

Shame we wont be seeing Farhh again on the track (Off to stud)
Suppose with all his injury probs it is the right call.
Gd to see him go out on a high with landing a top G1 over 10f to add to his G1 over 1mile.
A much needed big race win for the BoysNblue after a tough year for them.

bother, in what way?

Well Sin Farhh had leg problems. The recent Sungate steroid case was to do with horses with leg problems. Plus the obviously high profile Godolphin drug problems. Plus the fact you need a period of time out of training, plus you need a period of time to get the drugs out of your system, plus the accuracy targeting two races on a specific day 6 months apart. Plus the paddock 'well muscled up comments' how often do you hear that? 
For a horse to hit every one of the above targets bang on must surely raise some concerns? Had he missed one of the targets then fine but to hit them all, brilliant training.

At least Farhh was trying to win , it those  Horses that  are often  held back in the lesser races which is the scourge of modern day  Horse racing imo , the handicappers are to blame  in many ways  because they impose   excessive penalties on winners  and even making the Frame in many top  Handicaps is  heavily penalised ...just what is wrong with a max penalty of seven pounds ?  If the Horse wins again easily,   put them up another seven , some very useful  three year olds  had their careers blighted this Flat Season  by  twelve pound penalties .The message from the Handicappers is  ,' don't show your talent because we will murder you  if you do '

then we expect the Jockey  to properly push a Horse out for a place   why would they  do that ??

I'm a Sheikh Mohammed fan actually Sin. I was just wondering why no-one has brought this up. Seems odd that's all. I'm still wondering why the BHA have withheld the Newmarket 11's names. There has to be a reason and a possible could be Farhh. Given the problems at the beginning of the season with Al Zarooni had a vet administered this Sungate stuff on Fathh, not impossible given it was used on leg injuries, then they may have agreed with Sheikh Mo to let it go. Just a thought.

For all the conspiracy theories going around I find it surprising this hasn't been brought up Miller. The BHA not releasing the name of the Newmarket 11, a well muscled Godolphin inmate wins the Lockinge then doesn't run for 6 months then wins the Champion Stakes. Considering lots of Godolphin races are run multi handed this was a spectacular piece of training.
What bugs me in the Newmarket 11. Why not release the names?  I suggest had they just been run of the mill trainers the information would be out there. No-one was at fault so why no names? We are being played like fools!

I bow to your superior knowledge.

i suspect there is a lot of covering up of failed drugs tests in sports generally - the authorities who run the sports have too much to lose to risk their product losing all credibility