judorick     17 Sep 13 15:30 
I would have been all over Highland Colori but they went and won a poxy stakes race for £7k at Warwick and picked up a 5lb penalty

that has to be a negative, shame coz he is a perfect type otherwise

Tell me about it, was the first one i had gotten in the book, was seething they added an extra 5lbs by winnin a small race! Granted its gonna b offset but the jockey but still!

^ I note the winner isn't in your list though ?

Good to soft places creeping in at Ayr.  A few showers expected the next few days but more windy than anything else and Ayr is certainly one racecourse that dries extremely quickly.

Come Saturday I wouldn't be surprised to see good ground.

Like the look of Gabriels Lad, now Hallelujah landed that Listed race at York.

Would be hugely interested if Red Dubawi comes over for the race. Stays further (7 furlong horses do well in this race), trainer does well in these handicaps and gives impression this horse has more to come.

Gabriels Lad backed today - see what the final decs bring.

Horse is 7lb ahead of handicapper on my ratings and with only 14 career starts you have to think there's more juice still in his present rating. He is in great form going down by a neck to Redvers at Ascot lto over 7f. Goes well in these big field handicaps, will enjoy the ground.

Plenty going for him at 20-1.

Long Awaited interests me but I think is unlikely to get in the race but perhaps one to consider for the Bronze or Silver Cups.

Alright Judge. Yes that could well be the case and given they have only run him over 5 furlongs recently it would seem that they think the same. He has won over 6 furlongs and placed over 7 furlongs on testing ground but they were weaker races so might have just got away with it. Also, when he weakened over 6 furlongs he was only a 3 year old running against older horses so I think that could also have been a factor. It will be interesting to see what race they go for with him as I think he is a horse who will win a big handicap given how well he travels, it's a question of which one.

Despite all the talk of the draw it hasn't paid to be too dogmatic about it, last time the Silver and Ayr gold Cups came from the same side was 2009, and last year, the 1st year that the Bronze, Silver and Gold were run on the same day, the winners came Far, Stands and centre!!

You'd have torn your hair out switching sides

More worried about where the pace is than what the draw is, tbh.

yeah I'm not bothered about the draw, if the horse is well weighted enough they win anyway

drawbias.com seems to suggest there's very little in it, winners drawn all over the place

Ayr Gold Cup draw: 1 Lightning Cloud, 2 Nocturn, 3 Dubawi Sound, 4 Hamza, 5 Regal Parade, 6 Joe Eile, 7 Bogart, 8 Captain Ramius . . .

9 Hawkeyethenoo, 10 Lover Man, 11 Hasopop, 12 Our Jonathan, 13 Gabriel's Lad, 14 Baccarat, 15 Majestic Myles, 16 Heaven's Guest

17 Red Dubawi, 18 Louis The Pious, 19 Highland Colori, 20 Duke Of Firenze, 21 Mass Rally, 22 Jack Dexter, 23 Khubala, 24 Hoof It

25 Spinatrix, 26 Tropics, 27 Humidor

1     10641    Jack Dexter84      4    9-10    Jim Goldie    Graham Lee     110    100    117
2     182227    Hamza14 b      4    9-8    Kevin Ryan36    Neil Callan     108    98    117
3     121161    Tropics28 h      5    9-7    Dean Ivory60    Jim Crowley     107    112    118
4     5-7003    Hoof It14      6    9-7    Michael Easterby38    Graham Gibbons     107    92    115
5     465084    Hawkeyethenoo14      7    9-6    Jim Goldie    Kieren Fallon     106    99    114
6     201012    Spinatrix35 p      5    9-5    Michael Dods25    Connor Beasley5     105    102    119
7     810250    Mass Rally13 hb      6    9-5    Michael Dods25    Paul Mulrennan     105    95    119
8     00260    Captain Ramius35      7    9-5    Kevin Ryan36    Pat Smullen     105    96    118
9     010631    Highland Colori26 5x      5    9-4    Andrew Balding56    Oisin Murphy5     104    110    116
10     313693    Hasopop14      3    9-2    Marco Botti81    Paolo Sirigu     104    113    119
11     427403    Humidor11 t      6    9-2    George Baker33    Pat Cosgrave     102    95    120
12     080U10    Bogart7      4    9-2    Kevin Ryan36    Wayne Lordan     102    116    121
13     121028    Nocturn13 p      4    9-2    Jeremy Noseda17    William Twiston-Davies3     102    97    119
14     151860    Duke Of Firenze50      4    9-1    Sir Michael Stoute67    Cathy Gannon     101    115    118
15    1-0011    Lover Man102      4    9-1    Keith Dalgleish27    Tom Eaves     101    87    117
16     9-1961    Baccarat35      4    9-1    Richard Fahey51    Paul Hanagan     101    101    118
17     330488    Red Dubawi7    5    8-13    David Marnane65    Connor King5     99    101    116
18     29012    Gabriel´s Lad14      4    8-13    Denis Coakley60    Robert Winston     99    116    123
19     614346    Khubala27 b      4    8-13    Hugo Palmer50    Phillip Makin     99    110    120
20     28130    Joe Eile62      5    8-13    G M Lyons71    Emmet McNamara     99    112    114
21     071054    Lightning Cloud13    5    8-13    Kevin Ryan36    Tom Queally     99    109    121
22    303847    Dubawi Sound8 v1    5    8-12    David Brown50    Jamie Spencer     98    109    117
23     60170    Louis The Pious35      5    8-12    David O´Meara45    Daniel Tudhope     98    92    119
24     114100    Heaven´s Guest28      3    8-12    Richard Fahey51    George Chaloner5     100    108    119
25     500046    Regal Parade21 t      9    8-11    Milton Bradley29    Robert Tart3     97    98    112
26     304060    Our Jonathan7      6    8-11    David Simcock40    Harry Bentley     97    95    114
27     724460    Majestic Myles31      5    8-11    Richard Fahey51    Barry McHugh     97    109    119

Silver Cup


126     002007    Ancient Cross7 tp    9    9-10    Michael Easterby38     97    102    107
225     070188    Cheviot21 p      7    9-9    Ian Semple    Jason Hart3     96    98    106
327     000416    An Saighdiur34      6    9-9    Andrew Slattery    W J Lee     96    91    103
43     400316    Gramercy8 b      6    9-8    David Simcock40    Kieren Fallon     95    89    105
511     460112    Harrison George14 tb      8    9-8    P J O´Gorman25    Natasha Eaton5     95    99    109
616     2-0009    Stonefield Flyer21      4    9-8    Keith Dalgleish27    Tom Eaves     95    75    92
79     362374    Trail Blaze14 b      4    9-8    Kevin Ryan36    Neil Callan     95    100    108
87     070612    Colonel Mak49      6    9-8    David Barron56    Graham Gibbons     95    98    110
919     066201    Pearl Ice9 5x      5    9-8    David Barron56    Jamie Spencer     95    99    106
1013     124132    Clear Spring18      5    9-7    John Spearing    Phillip Makin     94    100    107
114     663193    Rodrigo De Torres35      6    9-7    David Nicholls50    Barry McHugh     94    93    107
1210     114009    Polski Max35      3    9-7    Richard Fahey51    George Chaloner5     96    104    107
1322     1602-2    Take Cover49      6    9-6    David C Griffiths50    Graham Lee     93    97    107
1421     100963    Yeeoow8      4    9-5    K R Burke50    Joey Haynes5     92    90    107
1524     331084    The Confessor22      6    9-4    Henry Candy67    Cathy Gannon     91    88    108
1618    311407    Gandalak98 b1      4    9-4    David O´Meara45    David Bergin5     91    98    108
1717     110083    Boots And Spurs28 v    4    9-4    K R Burke50     91    101    107
182     0-0721    Sir Reginald8 5x      5    9-4    Richard Fahey51    Paul Hanagan     91    89    109
191     090693    Thunderball9 p      7    9-3    Scott Dixon22    Tom Queally     90    100    107
2012     124770    Dick Bos35      4    9-3    David O´Meara45    Daniel Tudhope     90    99    109
2115     321104    Picture Dealer25      4    9-2    Gary Moore30    Fergus Sweeney     89    98    108
225     502662    Singeur11    6    9-2    Robin Bastiman75    Paul Mulrennan     89    97    106
2314     020530    Nameitwhatyoulike35      4    9-2    Michael Easterby38     89    88    109
246     712202    Links Drive Lady29      5    9-1    Dean Ivory60    Robert Winston     88    101    106
258     727734    Chooseday35 p      4    9-0    Kevin Ryan36     87    101    107
2623    723051    Crew Cut35 b      5    9-0    Jeremy Gask78     87    96    106
2720     229208    Fast Shot35      5    9-0    Tim Easterby30     87    94    109

Bronze Cup

125     150870    Yair Hill21    5    9-10    Noel Wilson    Joey Haynes5     87    77    87
226     564131    Hadaj10 5x      4    9-10    Ruth Carr29    David Bergin5     87    85    94
322     084331    Bop It14 5x      4    9-9    David O´Meara45    Daniel Tudhope     86    80    100
43     266211    Ashpan Sam14 8x      4    9-9    John Spearing13    Phillip Makin     86    91    101
519     310802    Rusty Rocket14    4    9-8    Paul Green50    Paul Mulrennan     85    93    99
613     99502    Farlow36      5    9-8    Richard Fahey51    Paul Hanagan     85    85    97
716     011190    Nasharra34 tp      5    9-6    Kevin Ryan38     83    80    97
820     148054    Best Trip14      6    9-5    Brian Ellison58    Graham Gibbons     82    87    99
924     837472    Kimberella27      3    9-5    Michael Attwater50    Robert Havlin     84    91    94
107     9-0050    Cheveton9      9    9-5    Richard Price29     82    71    90
1123     131113    Bondi Beach Boy10    4    9-5    James Turner100    Jordan Nason7     82    84    97
128    49173    Half A Billion54      4    9-4    Michael Dods30    Connor Beasley5     81    90    97
135     3-1590    Personal Touch48    4    9-4    Richard Fahey51    Tony Hamilton     81    84    95
1415     070717    Green Howard14      5    9-4    Robin Bastiman50    Jason Hart3     81    75    97
156     350004    Mary´s Daughter12      3    9-3    Richard Fahey51     82    75    91
1618     612413    Tatlisu10      3    9-3    Richard Fahey51    George Chaloner5     82    89    97
1710     936413    Right Touch12 5x      3    9-2    Richard Fahey51     81    86    98
1812     112603    West Leake Hare3      4    9-1    David Nicholls53     78    77    96
194     84112    Shady McCoy34      3    9-1    David Barron55    Robert Winston     80    84    97
201     071212    Tidal´s Baby20      4    9-0    Tony Carroll40     77    91    97
2114     534307    Lisiere8 v1      4    8-13    K R Burke56     76    81    100
222     545241    Mutafaakir13 5xp      4    8-13    Ruth Carr29    Martin Harley     76    83    95
239     241677    Jinky18      5    8-12    Linda Perratt     75    92    98
2411     410541    Indego Blues13 5x      4    8-12    David Nicholls53     75    90    99
2527     331414    Circuitous18 v      5    8-11    Keith Dalgleish29    Tom Eaves     74    84    96
2621     1441    Algar Lad41      3    8-11    Jim Goldie27    Graham Lee     76    91    96
2717     0-9376    Valmina6 t      6    8-11    Tony Carroll40     74    88    94

There's pace right across the track if they follow their usual run styles, so it's Highland Colori to lead and Gabriel's Lad to pick him up late with Khubala somewhere near. Lightning Cloud might do best of the low numbers if Hamza, Captain Ramius and Bogart go at it hammer and tongs

I know there's a lot of water under the bridge since, but back in September 2012 Gabrial's Lad beat Jack Dexter giving him 4lbs

now Jack Dexter has to give Gabriel's Lad 13lbs

just saying

got to improve 17lbs more than Gabriels Lad has done on that form

just my opinion but norfolk and chance, would need to be better than Lethal Force on my figures

set to drift like a barge, going drying, strong wind and very little rain expected

The weather forecast for 2moro at Ayr & overnight 2nite is for dry weather & the track does drain well. Sat morn to mid-day is dry, but there is a chance of some rain coming into the west coast in the afternoon .
Like the look of Gabriels Lad myself for a small interest & if it does stay soft my old friend from 2011 Our Jonathan would be of interest of this mark if he can find a bit of his best form, he is still only a 6yo after all, classy horse on his day.

^

Oh I think Jack Dexter,Tropics and Spinatrix between them have class and pace !!