As for the colts, I was reasonably impressed with Shifting Power's time over 7f. He looked a little awkward but it was probably just greenness. It wasn't good enough to suggest he's Gp1 material yet but he should be capable of a Gp2 if he goes on from that.

I would've rated Shifting Power higher at the time but decided to err on the side of caution, but after further results I just have to go back to my intended rating. I think this colt is already Gp1 material. He's the most exciting 2yo I've seen so far this year, you can keep your War Command and Kingman

shifting power, dont like the pedigree of that horse. your selection for 2000 guineas?

Yes, at this stage I do think he could be that good. Still a bit early to be going in boldly, though, so I've not had a bet yet. They seem to be playing him fairly low key and I've not seen the Guineas even mentioned by them. He's entered for the Royal Lodge and RPT, which tempers my enthusiasm a bit as I'd like to see him kept to 7f this year.

GWE did it well enough but don't think he did any more than his previous form said he should.

compton place only group 1 winner was boderlescott, that won 2 group 1's over 5f. probably a very good horse. pedigree doesnt
look good for a guineas win. ive only just started on pedigrees, im not expert by any means. last few races of the year, will
be important, after dewhurst and national stakes, everyone will be more sure of their choices then.

For the record I'm very keen on Ed Dunlops God Willing for next year - maybe more of a Derby prospect (pedigree says 10f so hard to know) but I think he might be very useful.

Cant disagree that SHIFTING POWER is the 2yo colt from England I have been most impressed by this year to date.  Appreciate the sire is a sprinter, with a very indifferent record at stud for getting anything other than sprinting Group winners, but on this occasion the dam gives plenty of stamina pointers for getting another furlong for the mile - maybe its a match made in heaven?

On pure visuals he looks very good, and if wearing Prince KA's colours he would be shorter in the 2000 Guineas market.

Didn't see it, ped, but I read it. Should be a good race if Be Ready shows as planned.

Ped, yes it is the best trial. I used to think the race could break a good horse, ask them a bit much too soon. It probably does in some cases, but I've changed my view in recent years. My original opinion was based on so many highly rated winners, such as Xaar, appearing not to train on the following season. However, when I looked back on a lot of those races I found that quite a few of them had been overrated by handicappers, they weren't quite as good had been made out.

A Group 1 in name only imo.

I made it 5lb below his coventry win ans 7lb below what Dawn Approach did last year. I think he could progress next year and a mile and firmer ground could see him improve.

Not impressed be disappointing if that is good enough to win the Guineas

At level stakes, backing him today would've meant nearly breaking even from the loss in the Phoenix Stakes. He won inbetween at the price of 8/11. A profit is a profit but I've seen better horses to follow

Godolphin will have an excellent handle on all the best 2yo form. Outstrip has faced Toormore and War Command and I would think Be Ready is a smarter horse than Outstrip. Interesting.

Yep have heard Godolphin rate Be Ready their best 2yo Sint. Tbh I'm not sure what to make of 2yo's as a bunch Brigust I just hope the likes of WC, Kingman etc improve for next season. The fillies are also starting to disappoint me I thought they looked a decent bunch but they are all beating each other. Suggests they are nothing special either.

two of those did nothing notable as 3yos

Of course you are right AT.

My Swallow bolted up in his trial, was 3rd in the 2000 Gns beaten by 2 of the best horses of the 20th Century, was then 2nd in heavy ground to Faraway Son who was only beaten once in 4 runs after that and that was by BG in the Sussex Stakes and finally he was touched off in the July Cup. Not great form.

Cawstons Pride never trained on. First time out she won the Ascot Guineas trial beating the Irish 1000 Gns and Falmouth Stakes winner Favolletta. She started 6/4f for the 1000 Gns but her temperament clearly failed her, she ran once more after that and was then retired.

The other two ran 22 times winning 20 and finishing 2nd twice.

But my point was that it was a winter too cherish about what was to come. That was my point AT. 

Not sure about Toormore Fig. His form suffered today in many ways.

I can agree with that Fig but WC didn't really enhance Sudirman's winning form either. The Godolphin horse was not great so I hope there is something a good deal better than what we have seen so far. Toormore has beaten a Gr1 winner albeit a questionable race so that is something I suppose.

Is War Command related to Declaration of War? If so can only see him being a better horse as he gets older. As usual with AOB, will he have him primed for HQ or use it as a prep for Ireland then Ascot. The market over the Winter is usually a good guide.

interesting the comments of Steve Mellish yesterday, think he said, pre-race, War Command was the most likely to make a 3yo as he was the strongest looking colt in the field..... but was not particularly impressed by the win, post race, saying it was just workmanlike.

Can't disagree with that, though with trainer and jockey saying the horse is getting lazy, maybe it should not be dismissed too easily even though not overly impressive. Presumably the horse is lazy at home and that's why he went off 20/1 in the Coventry? And also why the trainer didn't know he was unfit before the Phoenix?

But at no stage during the Dewhurst did I think he was ever going to lose. Fast getting the impression that he could be a Rock Of Gibraltar type, just gets the job done, not flashy, a tough horse and with more to come.

War Command every right to be marginal favourite for the Guineas on what he's achieved imo, though Gary O'Brien's opinion that Toormore the one to be on at this stage much respected