There's the Prix de la grotte sint, think it's 2nd sunday in april over 1m at longchamp
Zarkava won it one year

cheers both.

It always happens with the fillies!

I can't see this filly being good enough to win, but for those that fancy her

http://www.sportinglife.com/racing/news/article/465/9243631/amazing-maria-charts-direct-classic-route

Pulled hard, gave first run to the front two but you'd have to be disappointed. Fabre will no doubt bring out a lot better from her but major questions to be answered now.

Lad Brokes have gone 7/2 Tapestry now.

They would sint

Only for small ££ sint.
That was a nothing race imo & she was getting into gear when the "race" was over.

Special Duty was only beaten 1 length and had Group 2yo form. I don't think James has backed Miss France mainly because her odds were too short. He may now though.

Viewed the race a few times now, I don't see Vorda getting much further than 7fs,
Still rate Miss Frances chances for the 1000gns tho.

Anyone av quotes after this today?

i've just gone through all the videos and form of all the important races from last year. my conclusion is, I haven't got a f-ckin clue what will happen on May 4. I wasn't going to bet ante-post this year, but after watching Kiyoshi win at Ascot i thought this was the fillies equivalent of Frankel. how bloody wrong can you be, this started my book off, next up was a saver on Lucky Krystale, I then was impressed by Ihtimal so put it in as a winner, followed by savers on Tapestry, Sandiva and Rizeena. my book was gradually being overloaded and by this time I thought I was finished, but, lo and behold another what I thought was an impressive display, Miss France, I just had to go in again and make her a winner, as every time I bet a horse it's next run was pretty abysmal. so thinking I was finished, up pops Balansyia and Bracelet, I've just got to bet them as small losers, hoping and praying Miss France does the business in it's trial, only for it to run a shocker, my mind is scrambled at the moment, their must be 15 horses got some sort of chance to win the guineas, I've given up, and will now let fate take it's course.cheers.

Laddies 7/2 sums everything up. Lump on the 8/1 with Joke and fill your booties.

Obviously I didn't see enough from Miss France to make me want to go out and back her but if I was on her at a big price (I'm not) I wouldn't be too downbeat, it was no kind of race and I'd expect her to be fitter next time. If Fabre still chooses to run her at Newmarket I think we can forget the prep. I'm still not sure that Miss France will be good enough to win a typical Guineas but I'd still have her over Tapestry at a similar price.

Despite Botti saying Al Thakhira will go for the Guineas if the ground isn't firm the betting signals don't look good judging by the extreme prices offered on here, even if it is only for bits and pieces. Maybe it's just some opinion punter taking an extraordinarily negative view of her chance, but as this is a yard with such an obvious inside influence on the betting market I'd say that's highly unlikely.

Rizeena might run at Newbury.

no, no, sankara, I think everybody respects james's views on the 1,000 guineas, he put up Miss France as an interesting prospect even before it had run and it went winter fav. only take the pee on the football forum, they are so bigotted over there, it's too easy.  cheers.

re: Bye Bye Birdie, it's interesting that this one was given the Guineas entry.  I don't suppose she'll turn up, but she's still potentially an interesting prospect (if they have managed to sort her out mentally!).  She is bred to do well at around a mile but was kept to sprint distances last season.  She finally came good (in a first-time visor) in a Group 3 at the Curragh, staying on well to win by 3 lengths from some useful fillies, including Clenor (subsequent winner of three stakes races in America).  She disappointed on her final start in the Gr.2 Duchess of Cambridge Stakes behind Lucky Kristale, and on that form has no chance in the Guineas, but if she is able to return to her earlier Curragh form she could yet prove a very nice filly.  Anyway, I couldn't resist having a few more quid on her at 500.00+!  At this stage, though, I'm hoping that Tapestry is Ballydoyle's principal Guineas filly and that Bracelet (if she runs) does not turn out to be Joseph O'Brien's ride!

I wasn't too disappointed by Miss France's performance at Maisons-Laffitte: she probably needed the race, she was outpaced when they quickened up off a moderate early pace, she didn't get the run of the race and was allowed to come home under hands and heels.  She's sure to do much better in a truly run race.  On the face of it, the result of the Prix Imprudence failed to eradicate the doubts about Vorda's stamina for the mile of the Guineas, but trainer Philippe Sogorb said afterwards: "It may have looked like she had a good run, but it was not ideal for her as she hit the front much too soon. She likes to run at others rather than the other way around. Her next race will be the 1,000 Guineas."  Christophe Lemaire will surely ride her differently at Newmarket and if she stays she's the one they all have to beat.

Just back Rizeena folks.. Sorted.