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As long as the race conditions dont change(bar the date)all bets Ante Post are sunk if they're not in the 5 dayers. If they move venue or alter trip, all Ante Post bets may be refunded.
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I still think he will liam as he can leave him in now...race is on the 5th remember...wouldn't blame him either
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Alright Harry hope you are doing well. Michel Le Bon looks too classy for the others surely?
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Alright Harry hope you are doing well. Michel Le Bon looks too classy for the others surely?
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If he runs in the Lexus, there only chance of him being in the final decs Harry if if he falls early or im off down Ditcheat way to welcome in the new year with a bang
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hey swagger hope your well am ok pal been in good form so no complaints...how you getting on??...well after being analee intruded in the hennessy yes I have backed michel on the basis nicholls keeps tidal bay in...filth I know but i certainly love the angle (right up my street).i'm mercionary, so have no problem with it
will be more tricky however if the weights go up but this is a poor race and he has to go well... |
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Hey you guys are probably right. If that's the case the all that remains is the overnights a couple of days before?
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And btw harry I know my money is done on LBB - only chance is if race is completely cancelled.
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I would still kick up roobuck and see how you get on...after all the race isn't on the said date pal...worth a go...like i say i'd say its 5 day decs but not really sure they are moving it 11 days so must be le-way...I might get my money back myself as the horse might brake a leg in the next week and I bet the horse for the 27th
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I think the big issue is doing money on horses that were declared for the 27th and were gonna run but won't run on the 5th because they have run somewhere else in the interim.
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looking at the forecast it must be questionable whether it will go ahead on the 5th - not sure what Plan C is.
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anyone know what way betfair are treating their ante post on this race,
tia |
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Please be aware that the Welsh National from Chepstow is currently suspended and will be until further notice whilst we seek clarification from the BHA regarding the entries for this race....BETFAIR CUST.SERVICES
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cheers bm
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Must b a big chance of this bein off again?
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I agree Liam with everything you say. The BHA has made another horlicks with regard to going back to the original handicap date so that horses that were originally withdrawn @ the 5day dec stage could now run. While the boss is away the idiots will play.
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Mind numbingly poor decision by people who have no shame in demonstrating their complete lack of competence.
If people there were held accountable for their incompetence the place would have been sued and closed down many moons ago and we might have a body now that recognised the relationship between betting and horse racing. How are ante post punters gonna feel if they come 2nd to a horse that wasn't even if the final 26 5 day acceptors?? Ante post is dead if this is how the BHA will decide on rescheduled races. |
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this is disgusting in my book...
for those that have bet on the week with the 5 day decs have now bet on a race with double the decs...wtf are they playing at this is one of the biggest jokes I have ever seen and makes ante post betting dead in the water |
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I think the precedent was set in another race hence why I suggested this was the likely outcome. Not saying its right however
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Back to racinggurus point,master overseer was taken out after a bad run at haydock now after winning at cheltenham hes actually 5LBS well in!
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The bookies now have Master Overseer running for them plus numerous others potentially plus the weights could be so different and therefore riding arrangements.
Sona Sasta for example was very likely to have been Scu's mount and off 10st 3lbs when the weights went up 16. Now could be any old jock plus could be out the weights. The whole dynamics have changed. The problem is BHA are brain dead - period and bookies don't differentiate between regular ante-post and ante-post early closer races. |
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anyone got the decs - they were supposed to be confirmed by noon today?
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23 declared - Across the Bay heads weights - another one that was out!
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Across The Bay28 11_12
Quartz De Thaix22 11_06 Giles Cross266 11_03 Michel Le Bon56 11_03 Teaforthree35 11_03 Soll35 10_12 Alfie Spinner35 10_11 Universal Soldier 10_11 Master Overseer 10_10 Katenko14 10_09 Royal Charm28 10_08 Viking Blond49 10_07 Major Malarkey 10_06 Jadanli34 10_05 Mon Mome21 10_05 Triggerman50 10_03 Harouet27 10_01 Monbeg Dude49 10_01 Sona Sasta28 4 10_00 Our Island29 10_00 Cool Operator20 10_00 Incentivise19 10_00 Arbor Supreme29 10_00 |
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Viking Blond for me. Prominent runner, nice weight, good prep race LTO out at Cheltenham. A year on about disappointing as favourite, at 8s will run a great race.
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Your allegiance to NTD, a pleasure to see corporal
![]() Soll getting me jiggy now, after Harpsy Cord's cruel twist of fate @Limerick tother day. 139 a very feasible mark with the promise of more to come after only 5 starts(4 chases) under rules and 2 points. |
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At this moment - Sona Sasta for me.
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Pure coincidence this time Liam but great memory!! Allegiance to trainers doesn't go much further than messrs Newland and Mckiernan given their impressive strike rates.
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As it turns out I'm ok with the final 23 and be happy if Across the Bay stays in but ultimately it isn't right to have a 2 runners potentially running that weren't in the field. Could work out for the best for me as Sona Sasta now 10 stone whereas I was thinking 10st 6. Happier to be level weights with Our Island than giving him 2.
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at the prices i will have to be with monbeg dude he won well at cheltenham i like viking but just question him seeing it out monbeg seemed to have more in the tank last time as after watching the race again i think he was just idling once he got the better of bradley
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Giles Cross did a brilliant piece of work this morning and I’m hopeful he will run well in the Welsh National on Saturday, while I think Seebright could be the horse to change our fortunes in the bumper.
Quote from VD today. |
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Does the performance of Ambion Wood today put anyone off Giles Cross this weekend. Nagging doubt the virus outbreak at the yard may be negatively impacting.
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tt - great minds. Must have been typing at same time.
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hayling
have posted a piece on AW on the chelts forum,thread about RSA winner runs today etc etc. |
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Done my homework. Decision made. Selected Universal Soldier and Monbeg Dude. Both right age and both like Soft/Heavy. US a previous winner at Chepstow and MD a first time runner at Chepstow. Have gone for one at low end of weights and one at the top end once you remove the top 5 in the weights none of which I think are good enough or reliable enough to carry the weight. Going to wait til Saturday to place EW bets on both coz most will go first 5 places on saturday morning. Good luck all.
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hayling when doing your homework just explain why you came up with these 2 horse??
by homework do you mean trends or form?? best of luck of course but some reasoning would be nice I can see it cutting up to 15-17 runners so 5 places maybe pushing it |
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harry - apologies, it was late. A little more detail on my thinking. Trends was a key factor. Universal Soldier came out strong on the trends I used and I know Charlie L likes this horse a lot especially in soft going. Picked Monbeg Dude coz he met a lot of the trends and I saw him win at Cheltenham in soft going recently and immediately thought Welsh National. Add to the equation the top 2 in weights are carrying too much, not going near anything from Vic Dartnells stable after virus and watching Ambion Wood run this week, MIchel Le Bon is a constant disappointment and I just dont fancy T43 for a tough slog round Chepstow. Sona Sasta was the other one I liked at lower weights but opted for Monbeg due to what I saw with own eyes at Cheltenham and to be honest wanted to stick to courage of my own conviction. Hope that reads better. Good luck to you.
You make a good point ref 5 places and number of runners. I am hoping the bookies are desperate ! |
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At The Races @AtTheRaces
Nick Williams tells ATR that Alfie Spinner will not run in Welsh National - heads to Sandown instead ffs ![]() |
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hayling still no reasoning from a form perspective...apart from trends so fair play won't pursue
michel le bon why is he a constant disappointment please??? he is the horse I am all over like a tramp round a sandwich ideal prep, form lines with leading runners, loves the track, will love the ground...improvement likely on only 5th chase start...ruby on board...will be 5-1 on the day and we are getting 8's our money today?? explain reasoning for saying he is a constant disappointment please if you were expecting him to win the hennessy last year on his second career chase start save it ran a blinder for me |
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Sorry harry but loves the track - he's won a maiden hurdle there?
No obvious form lines with other fancied runners as I can see. I would have thought a little tenuous and not ones that justify the price imo. Clearly open to improve my as had so few chase starts but he is now 10 - are you not concerned he may not have the resolution for such a test? Not for me but good luck - watch him hose up! |