*** King George VI and QE Stks ***

All the way with SNA

There's a danger he'll be run in Cup races or used as the hare but I have an increasingly soft spot for Memphis T.  Would like to know what the plan with him is......#fatfookinchance

i posted just after the derby, the kg could be run exclusivly by coolmore runners, as far as i see no 3 year old from uk in the list, nathaniel might run that about itimo

Ballydoyle have this race in the bag,they will send either SNA or CAMELOT and one of them will win.

I wouldn't write off Nathaniel so easily. Very good horse last season and could be even better a year older.

Could SNA run in the Grand Prix de ST cloud instead of this,
which apparently is an option for Danedream.
It must be tempting for Ballydoyle to run Camelot with all
the weight allowances he'll be getting.
  It's difficult to predict exactly waht AOB will run, hopefully he won't leave it until the last minute again before
he confirms his intentions.
The race seems to have gone downhill in recent years ,hopefully most of the leading players will line up and
make it a race to savour.

OK thanks. Is it possible to supplement him?
Re the Prince of wales , Golden lilac is listed with prices
next to him on BF yet isn't entered for the race . Can he be
supplemented for that too ?  How are you supposed to know
which races horses can be supplemented into.

Apparently they've said Camelot won't race older horses till Longchamp, if he goes there.

Supplementary dates are always given in the Betfair rules summary next to the race, tinkler.

OK thanks John and Pete.

What line of form gives you that impression, 'HRE'?

AOB did say that has taken him a bit of time to get SNA back after he rushed him for the Guineas and he did look very good at Epsom.

That being said I'd agree with platini about Nathaniel if he makes it. OK he needs to prove himself as a 4yo so that at the revised weights he can maintain the form with SNA from last year's race. That would especially be the case if there was juice in the ground

'HorseRacingExpert',

Lines of form do not include hunches about what the ground will be like, although I'm sure we all welcome your optimism that this torrential rain will, at some point, cease. 

Neither do they include hunches that last year's Arc winner will not reproduce that form...especially when she's already come out at 4 and won her only start to date.

I would agree that SNA looked quite snappy at Epsom, but beating Red Cadeaux off levels on fast ground isn't normally that hard, is it?

It is much harder to agree with your assertion that any horse at this stage, including St Nichols Abbey, has the King George 'wrapped up'.

Be a shame if a horse like SNA won a race as good as this.

I dont think SNA has the race wrapped up by any means, but he certainly is the one to beat,imo.

Dont see Camelot turning up for the KG.
Took the small ££ that was on here for Imperial Monarch (22.0) and Sea Moon (10.5) could see them both line up.
SNA was very impressive at Epsom, but he was not beating top 1m4f horses, KG will be more of a test for him against tough if most of the top 1s line up.
It will be interesting to see where Imperial Monarch goes next, think he is the 2nd best 1m4f 3yo colt in training.
It will prob depend where Camelot goes next (Irish Derby)?

SNA's record over 10f +
LH 1 2 1 1 1
RH 2 5 3 3 3
G/f  1 1 1
G    2 5 1
g/s or soft  2 3 3 3
Literal interpretation of these stat's suggest he's at his best on fast ground on a Left handed track.
Delve a little deeper and these stats could be a bit deceptive. When he won the breeders cup on Firm
the ground looked pretty loose on top ,which he handled well also 2 of of his other defeats with cut in the ground came in prep races. The LH stat is a bit more difficult to overlook and in the past he may not
have been ideally suited by going RH but last year he didn't look suited by the undulations of Epsom
yet this year he adapted to them well. He may have matured and grown out of his tendancies or the stats
could just be a coincidence. Throw in that he appears now to wear a tongue tie and the waters become murkier.  At this moment in time my view of the horse is that he could well be approaching his prime and
be a late developer. The form of his Epsom win doesn't read anything special but pre-race he looked like
he'd developed significantly from 4 -5 and he appeared to exude significant power during the race that he
hadn't shown before. On good or faster ground he could be difficult to beat at Ascot.

But is SNA good enough?

He was used as a pacemaker in the Arc wasn't he? Certainly looked that way.

Winner all right. Sir Stoutey's got it it again