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By:
Can't Catch Me
When: 23 Nov 11 10:53
boy wonder. You might not fancy he'll stay, and thats fair enough.

But outstaying Cooldine to win over 3m on soft isnt proof that he wont get 3m2f on good to soft ground imo!
By:
boy wonder 07
When: 23 Nov 11 11:36
yes fair enough its great we all have different opinions i am just not 100pc about him not sure he justifys his  mark
By:
strontium
When: 23 Nov 11 12:11
At the prices Tullamore Dew is an interesting one. His Festival race is working out very well (1st and 2nd in that were 2nd and 3rd in the Paddy Power). TD looked to be going OK and coming in to contention when he fell in the PP. I know he's not run 3 m before, but you'd be geeting good value that he might be a potential improver.
By:
sintonian
When: 23 Nov 11 12:51
decided to have a few quid on Carruthers. I know he doesn't win often but he looks well handicapped now off 146 as a result (is actually due to go down a further 3lb), but I thought he jumped and travelled great last time out around Cheltenham where he got beaten by Galaxy Rock who is an improving 2nd season chaser that had a previous run and was receiving 11lb. Ballyfitz stayed on to grab second who himself is not badly handicapped on old form.

The last time Carruthers won was at Newbury, so worth a try at 20/1 imo.

I may save on WP come raceday .. gl all
By:
TINnotaTON
When: 23 Nov 11 13:04
do you think he'l run sint, he was my choice before his trainer stated (trainer comments again) that he wouldnt run unless at least soft, the forcast i saw as early as yesterday doesnt show any appreciable rain leading up to the race.
on that score went for wayward prince instead
By:
sintonian
When: 23 Nov 11 13:26
I emailed them and he replied this morning say they intended to run.

It was GS last time out at Cheltenham so provided it is no quicker than that he should run,imo.
By:
sintonian
When: 23 Nov 11 13:30
I'd not advise you back him though. Happy to risk my own money etc but trainer said  ''Yes we intend to run at the moment'' on email.
By:
TINnotaTON
When: 23 Nov 11 13:35
good work and fair play, cheers for that
By:
sintonian
When: 23 Nov 11 13:44
you can probably get NRNB by tomorrow so might be best to wait.
By:
jungleboogie
When: 23 Nov 11 14:43
if u back Ante Post(ladbrokes)1/4 1st 4 horses...and only 13 run,do you still get paid 1st 4 ?
By:
Tatie Baron
When: 23 Nov 11 14:48
Yes jungle.
By:
Deptford
When: 23 Nov 11 14:51
Wayward for me, strong fancy
By:
zilzal1
When: 23 Nov 11 15:22
Dont think this will take that much winning tbh
By:
ReimerpYsatnaf
When: 23 Nov 11 16:34
Joncol out to 24 on here and absolutely nowt looking to get on, looks pretty ominous don't it Plain
By:
ReimerpYsatnaf
When: 23 Nov 11 16:57
Anyobdy any news on who is going to ride Wymott?? A bit bemused that Maguire is flying from Bangor @ 12.10 to get to Newcastle for 2.20 to ride Overturn in the Fighting Fifth Confused why not go to Newbury instead to ride Wymott @ 3.10 or is that not possible?
By:
sintonian
When: 23 Nov 11 17:09
Good point. Maybe he fancies his chances of winning on Overturn more ??
By:
strontium
When: 23 Nov 11 17:09
It's not obvious is it. Fighting Fifth is a Grade 1 which could be the decider. Maybe he doesn't want to upset the owner, who owns a lot of the yard's good horses (inc. Peddlars Cross), but then so does Trevor Hemmings. Maybe they think Overturn has the better chance of picking up a big pot than Wymott - it's certainly a less competetive race.
By:
ReimerpYsatnaf
When: 23 Nov 11 17:11
Yeah they must really fancy Overturn or it being a grade 1 being the decider, just surprised. I probably should of thought more about it but i had just persumed he would be aboard Wymott (my own fault for not digging enough).
By:
sintonian
When: 23 Nov 11 17:13
He'd probably pick up more money on finishing 2nd or 3rd in the FF than placing in the HGC ?? Only a win would be worth more ..
By:
ReimerpYsatnaf
When: 23 Nov 11 17:14
Sure it'll be interesting to see who they get to ride
By:
sintonian
When: 23 Nov 11 17:21
Graham Lee, maybe.

The Rehearsal Chase is on the same day as well so Jockeys at a premium at the mo ..
By:
ReimerpYsatnaf
When: 23 Nov 11 17:27
I'd be more than happy with Graham on top
By:
sisyphus
When: 23 Nov 11 17:35
Here’s a list of horses that I have been compiling since 1833 that didn’t like big fields:
Mighty Man
Night Nurse
Make A Stand
Sizing Europe
Dawn Run
Hardy Eustace
Solerina
Massinis Maguire
Barton
Limestone Lad
Deanos Beano
Lough Derg
Flyingbolt
Arkle
Denman
Bula
Overturn
Pridwell
Intersky Falcon
One Man
Our Vic
Grey Abbey
Wishful Thinking
Celetial Halo
Newmill
Albertas Run
Edredon Bleu
Ballabriggs
Desert Orchid
By:
fivebagken
When: 23 Nov 11 17:57
what are people's thoughts on the number of defectors  for this? Worth getting on e/w selections now to ensure 4 places?
By:
strontium
When: 23 Nov 11 18:03
Sint - much better prize money for the Hennessey than the FF including the places.
By:
sisyphus
When: 23 Nov 11 18:05
Heres my take on the race for what its worth;

1833 – Will Tank along from the outset in front and won’t see another horse.

Balthazar king – In and out performer think his last race came to soon.

Beshabar – Wants further.

Billie magern – wont get to the front.

Blazing bailey – Has a mind of his own these days, stays but the creams curdled.
Carruthers – Needs the mud.

Fair along – Well Handicapped has to get to the front, this pint pot hates big fields.

Great endeavour – Missed the break at the festival, was given an easy lead and made a tired non stayers fall.

Joncol – Can’t possibly win jumping violently out to his right when the pace is on, will be running 3m3f.

Michel le bon – Has the same profile as 1833 may need the outing and Ruby has the choice.

Muirhead – will stay on when others relent

Neptune – Hates big fields in this to boss the handicap and bring down his own for the future.

Planet of sound – Trainer has been runner up to 1833 in both runs on this course, another bridesmaid.

Qhilimar – Been mixing both codes

Sarando – Could be well handicapped.

The giant bolster – Pick a fence and I will uproot it.

Tullamore dew – wants a fast run 3m sharper track than this.

Wayward Prince – Will stay as long as the mother in laws mother but may be a little to late.

Wymott – Would give this a real chance if it were bottomless.


1833 thats Ruby to win by 18 lengths and 3 lengths back to the 3rd horse
By:
strontium
When: 23 Nov 11 18:13
Five - yes. I can see Joncol, Carruthers and Balthazar King coming out. Also possibly Fair Along and Blazing Bailey?
By:
sintonian
When: 23 Nov 11 19:41
philip hobbs has already said all three of his run.
By:
bazzar
When: 23 Nov 11 20:41
Sintonian, Joncol won on 4th November horses winning after November 6th to be penalised after one 'chase win 4lbs of two Chases 7lbs.
By:
grade 1
When: 23 Nov 11 20:48
joncol on drift.looks like nr.Sad
By:
ReimerpYsatnaf
When: 23 Nov 11 20:49
Joncol doesn't run
By:
Joist
When: 23 Nov 11 21:00
Nolan is something else isn't he?
By:
ReimerpYsatnaf
When: 23 Nov 11 21:02
Nolan is a stranger to the truth, i wasn't on Noble Prince but i thought it was very poor the way he put all punters away with him. I suppose i should of took heed and stayed away from Joncol but backed him when he said he was being aimed at the race, nothing major but i can't wait to read his reasons seen as there is rain forecast for Friday but i'm sure the going will be the excuse.
By:
shockster
When: 23 Nov 11 21:03
Nolans a clown unless Joncol is injured.  Backed it on the back of his confirmation.
By:
ReimerpYsatnaf
When: 23 Nov 11 21:05
Yep sure enough he misses the race due to drying ground and goes for the John Durkin instead
By:
JOCI Club
When: 23 Nov 11 21:48
Once bitten....

Put him on the 'not to be trusted' list now.
By:
JOCI Club
When: 23 Nov 11 22:09
I just e-mailed Attheraces about this expressing my displeasure, so if anyone hears it being read out on tomorrow's show, let us know what the response from either Matt or Boycie might be.
By:
Albion Dan
When: 24 Nov 11 00:10
I backed Joncol ages ago and wasn't lured in by Nolan's quotes, also am not suggesting he is laying his runners as he'd make about a tenner even if he was that way inclined, but it really is pathetic from him. I wasn't on Noble Prince but I'd say that was even worse as at least with Joncol there is the ground excuse, but still why say he was "90% sure to run"
By:
Dark Destroyer
When: 24 Nov 11 07:35
No one can say we didn't see that coming. It's almost beginning to look as if someone is deliberately taking the piss out off AP punters.
By:
sintonian
When: 24 Nov 11 08:59
Commiserations Joncol Backers. I thought this one would be heading over as even if the going is GS I dont see that as a reason not to run. I understood why they did not send over Noble Prince but now Joncol will be dropped back in trip for the Durkan which wont suit at all imo.
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