|
By:
Would be quite interested in Carruthers if it came up soft or heavy. However, best to stick to second season chasers(improvers) in this race. Works out year after year(Denman exception). Wymott, Sarando,Vino Griego, Aiteen Thirtythree and Wayward Prince fit the bill for me in that order.
|
|
By:
Sarando for me e/w
|
|
By:
AND THEN THERE WAS 27.......
111P-2 Aiteen Thirtythree26 7 10-10 Paul Nicholls 1P-15P Balthazar King14 7 9-13 Philip Hobbs B121- Beshabar224 9 10-8 Tim Vaughan 028-15 Billie Magern14 7 9-11 Nigel Twiston-Davies 6119P- Blazing Bailey224 9 10-9 Alan King 6649-3 Carruthers14 8 10-4 Mark Bradstock 11P/1- Diamond Harry364 8 11-10 Nick Williams 34-U26 Fair Along14 9 10-0 Philip Hobbs 62F6-1 Great Endeavour14 4x 7 10-9 David Pipe 149P-4 Hey Big Spender14 8 10-9 Colin Tizzard 433-1 Joncol23 8 11-6 Paul Nolan 31311/ Michel Le Bon730 8 10-4 Paul Nicholls 631418 Muirhead28 8 10-4 Noel Meade B0186- Neptune Collonges224 10 11-12 Paul Nicholls 4230-3 Neptune Equester63 8 9-1 Brian Ellison 01/35- Planet Of Sound315 9 11-2 Philip Hobbs P1R-12 Qhilimar27 7 9-9 Charlie Longsdon 131P-P Quinz28 7 10-11 Philip Hobbs 12F2-1 Sarando19 4x 6 10-11 Paul Webber 1UF-4U The Giant Bolster14 6 10-4 David Bridgwater 115-2 Time For Rupert28 7 11-3 Paul Webber 123-5F Tullamore Dew14 9 9-12 Nick Gifford 3234-5 Vino Griego15 6 9-5 Gary Moore 11134- Wayward Prince232 7 10-8 Ian Williams 18P-1 Weird Al28 8 11-8 Donald McCain 121-16 Wishfull Thinking14 8 11-8 Philip Hobbs 111P- Wymott255 7 10-2 Donald McCain |
|
By:
Aiteen Thirtythree (8) , Great Endeavour (8) , Wymott (9) , Michel Le Bon (12) , Wayward Prince (12) , Beshabar (14) , Joncol (14) , Diamond Harry (16) , Sarando (16) , Time For Rupert (16) , Weird Al (16)
20's bar |
|
By:
ftm still fancy mlb ?
![]() |
|
By:
I've backed the Nicholls pair. Aiteen Thirty Three 10's and Michel Le Bon at 16's. That will do for me.
|
|
By:
Joncol interesting if it comes up Soft .. is he coming over ?
|
|
By:
Wayward Prince would be my main one
|
|
By:
trainer stated the other day that carruthers would only run if it came up soft, think he mentioned the possibility of running in another race the same day.
|
|
By:
sintonian 18 Nov 11 16:19
Joncol interesting if it comes up Soft .. is he coming over ? Will come, but only if likely soft going. |
|
By:
Aiteen Thirtythree (8) , Great Endeavour (8) , Wymott (8) , Michel Le Bon (10) , Wayward Prince (12) , Beshabar (14) , Joncol (14) , Sarando (16) , Weird Al (16) , Diamond Harry (20) , Planet Of Sound (20) , The Giant Bolster (20) , Time For Rupert (20)
25's bar |
|
By:
Looks like it might cut up to me - ground reservations for a few outlined above - four of 'em ran yesterday (including 3 in Betfair Chase) - Tizzard has said HBS to be aimed at Welsh National (s'pose he could run in both) and would surprised if Wishfull Thinking was asked to carry the weight after his Paddy Power run.
|
|
By:
Think 1833 will win this.
|
|
By:
I was pleased with his comeback run over an inadequate trip against Somersby. Was running on nicely at the finish there, and it should have brought him along nicely.
|
|
By:
If anyone is driving next Saturday I have four Premier Parking passes. Booked ten premier badges and they sent the parking too.
Leave me a note and we can sort soemthing out. |
|
By:
Wymott has been all the rage for this
|
|
By:
worcester 20th oct 2010,fred rimell memorial novice chase,won by the giant bolster,only 5 runners,but the 4 horses finnishing behind bolster have never raced since,dont know why,
|
|
By:
Michel Le Bon is awful short for a horse that's run in one chase and has been off for 2 years.
I know Nicholls thinks a lot of him, and what form he has is at Newbury, but it's still a massive step to win a race like the Hennessey. |
|
By:
will ruby choose michel le bon over1833?
|
|
By:
I completely agree Stontium. I am amazed people are actually backing him tbh as if Segal did not tip him up I dont think he'd get much of a mention. Nicholls has never hidden the fact he likes this horse a lot, and for them to keep him in-training when he has not run for 2 years suggests they think he is very well handicapped off 146, but how on earth he is 10/1 with just one Chase start to his name is beyond me tbh.
I wont lay him, but certainly cant back him to win. |
|
By:
I must admit to not having a particularly strong view about anything in the race this year but,I've been surprised by how little I've read or heard about Wayward Prince for this.
I had him ahead of 1833 & Wymott in last seasons novice pecking order. Planet of Sound if returning at his best would be the other one for me as I think the dry forecast should mean he gets his ground as well, he's been pretty disappointing recently but at the price he's worth a shot |
|
By:
Still doing a rain dance for my 20/1 ticket on Joncol.
If it does end up being soft, I think he'd deserve to be near enough favourite considering most of the market principals are second season chasers faced with a huge step up. |
|
By:
That is exactly the type of horse you want for this race though CCM !
![]() I respect Joncol too and if he does run you'd like BJG to ride again .. Wayward Prince interests me too Resnar, and I have just fired off an email to the trainer to see if he will be confirmed. |
|
By:
Have backed Joncol and The Giant Bolster for this. Pretty sure Nolan will bottle it with Joncol though. Surprised how little has been spoken about TGB, felt he was more of a hennessy horse than PP tbh and he was relly well backed for that.
|
|
By:
Joncol has accepted and will race off top weight of 11st 6lbs because H.DERHAM claims 7lbs on NEPTUNE COLLONGES.
|
|
By:
After Noble Prince's no show, I wouldn't believe Joncol will turn up unless I saw him at the start. And with the current forecast I would say it's unlikely
|
|
By:
I'm the same, took the 20s Joncol but i'll believe he is a definate runner when i see him at the start. Also backed Wymott @ 14s when the weights came out and really confident in his chances.
|
|
By:
Might be a rough boat ride too if the forecast is near right......
Thursday: A very windy day with strong to gale force southerly winds possibly reaching storm force in parts of the west and north. |
|
By:
Sint.
I hope the answer is yes he will. Cracking chance IMO. |
|
By:
I was thinking that as I typed it Sint! Certainly suited that type of horse in previous years.
I agree re Joncol though. If Nolan didnt fancy the trip to Chelts with Noble Prince, I have a feeling lightning will strike twice here. That said, Noble Prince did have a very viable B plan. I dont see Joncol being in the same boat, as I cant him over 2m4f in the John Durkan myself. |
|
By:
I really don't see any negatives for Great Endeavour other than I didn't back it for the PP
![]() We now know he is well handicapped and I am certain he will stay around Newbury. I think he will be put to sleep early on and come thru to win. Has a lovely racing weight and his run over hurdle vs an in form Lie Forit showed he stayed well imo and Chelt is much stiffer than here ( One Man ) Often we overlook the obvious imo and he is the one for me. Wayward Prince could be the big improver and has form at the highest level and fto could be the time to catch him so he would be my idea of a saver. Beshabar has to be backed over staying trips this year but I know they are not over facing him early as the GN is the target and 20/1 is a very good price should he get there, this horse would stay 5 miles and at a great gallop to boot. Great Endeavour 8/1 Wayward Prince 10/1 + a RFC Combo TC with Beshabar if he turns up + The Giant Bolster ( good horse / shiit trainer but will pop up soon ) |
|
By:
The worst Hennessy I can remember in recent times.
|
|
By:
Pretty pleased with my Nicholls pair and could probs back another on the day if I wish. Michel Le Bon is such a nice horse and has a feather weight. It's a big ask but I would be very surprised if he isn't pretty well in. 1833 looks short enough now but was value beforehand I think. He has been trained with this race in mind for a couple of seasons & his 2nd to Somersby was a great run given Kempton and a shorter trip is never going to suit a big galloper like him. Wayward Prince is the one I'm slightly concerned about as a danger. I just think that long straight could really play to his strengths.
|
|
By:
great endevour for me backed in pp 3 miles flat track yard flying
|
|
By:
Shame it's an extended 3m 2f then :)
|
|
By:
Aiteen Thirtythree (13/2) , Great Endeavour (7) , Michel Le Bon (8) , Wymott (8) , Wayward Prince (10) , Beshabar (14) , Joncol (14) , Planet Of Sound (14) , Sarando (14)
20's bar |
|
By:
Joncol and Carruthers will not run unless soft or heavy. Not a lot of rain forecast and currently good, g/s in places so draw your own conclusions. That leaves 17 max. Anyone wanting to bet on the race (esp each way) needs to be getting off their arris'es now.
|
|
By:
echo stront and sint on Michel Le Bon - if you've got fancy prices then fair enough but he's not raced for 2 years, run in and won one chase with only 4 runners and only one other finisher and (understandably) threw in some novicey jumps along the way - distance was 2.5f short of Hennessy distance too!
Not for me - I'll take my hat of to his trainer if he wins off that prep (of course his trainer borders on genius these days so it's possible). |
|
By:
I have Great Endeavour covered nice bet at 8/1 but went in for another one tonight.
Meets most of the key trends. I started off wanting to back (always dangerous) 1833 BUT knew I had never really been that switched on by him, even having seen him bolt up in his last slowly ran race at Newbury. He was bought to win this race, that's a fact but if you look through his race record he's best dominating small and inferior fields. In the RSA where he set the pace but then had horses serve it up to him and put him under pressure he didn't really stay with them when push came to shove. Just watching that race back tonight confirmed to me that I honestly think Jessie's Dream is the call in next years Gold Cup but the one to take out of the RSA for the Hennessy is (step forward) WAYWARD PRINCE. My only concern about this fella is first time out fitness BUT let's face it, McCain handed most of the credit to IAN WILLIAMS for WEIRD AL'S performance to come out and win the Charlie Hall first time out, so I think concerns on that front can be very well answered. AP McCoy likely to take the ride given the lack of rain and the expected no show of Joncol for Nolan. The one thing this horse will do, in a track whose gruelling finishing straight can be brutal in this race, is stay. I think he's the one this year. Been targeted specifically at this race, I think he'll go off 8/1 or lower come the day. Managed to get some on at 10/1. WAYWARD PRINCE & GREAT ENDEAVOUR main bets. SARANDO small on at 20's. |
|
By:
By the way the other thing with 1833 is that although it was a prep run at Kempton it didn't exactly scream 'Hennessy winner' to me.
|