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when do the weights come out?
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And when will BF put up a market for it?
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THE 46 ENTRIES for you.....
Air Force One (GER) Charlie Mann 9 Aiteen Thirtythree (IRE) Paul Nicholls 7 Alderluck (IRE) Nick Gifford 8 Balthazar King (IRE) Philip Hobbs 7 Beshabar (IRE) Tim Vaughan 9 Billie Magern Nigel Twiston-Davies 7 Blazing Bailey Alan King 9 Blazing Tempo (IRE) W. P. Mullins, Ireland 7 Calgary Bay (IRE) Henrietta Knight 8 Carruthers Mark Bradstock 8 Chariot Charger (IRE) Emma Lavelle 7 Chicago Grey (IRE) Gordon Elliott, Ireland 8 Cooldine (IRE) W. P. Mullins, Ireland 9 Diamond Harry Nick Williams 8 Dover's Hill Mary Hambro 9 Fair Along (GER) Philip Hobbs 9 General Kutuzov (IRE) Nick Gifford 7 Gone To Lunch (IRE) Jeremy Scott 11 Great Endeavour (IRE) David Pipe 7 Hey Big Spender (IRE) Colin Tizzard 8 Joncol (IRE) Paul Nolan, Ireland 8 King Fontaine (IRE) Malcolm Jefferson 8 Madison du Berlais (FR) David Pipe 10 Michel Le Bon (FR) Paul Nicholls 8 Mon Parrain (FR) Paul Nicholls 5 Muirhead (IRE) Noel Meade, Ireland 8 Neptune Collonges (FR) Paul Nicholls 10 Neptune Equester Brian Ellison 8 Ouzbeck (FR) Emma Lavelle 9 Planet of Sound Philip Hobbs 9 Qhilimar (FR) Charlie Longsdon 7 Quinz (FR) Philip Hobbs 7 Razor Royale (IRE) Nigel Twiston-Davies 9 Sarando Paul Webber 6 Shakalakaboomboom (IRE) Nicky Henderson 7 The Giant Bolster David Bridgwater 6 Time For Rupert (IRE) Paul Webber 7 Tullamore Dew (IRE) Nick Gifford 9 Uncle Junior (IRE) W. P. Mullins, Ireland 10 Vino Griego (FR) Gary Moore 6 Wayward Prince Ian Williams 7 Weird Al (IRE) Donald McCain 8 West End Rocker (IRE) Alan King 9 What A Friend Paul Nicholls 8 Wishfull Thinking Philip Hobbs 8 Wymott (IRE) Donald McCain 7 |
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The 6 IRISH entries.....
Blazing Tempo (IRE) W. P. Mullins, Ireland 7 Chicago Grey (IRE) Gordon Elliott, Ireland 8 Cooldine (IRE) W. P. Mullins, Ireland 9 Joncol (IRE) Paul Nolan, Ireland 8 Muirhead (IRE) Noel Meade, Ireland 8 Uncle Junior (IRE) W. P. Mullins, Ireland 10 |
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I suppose Cooldine would be interesting on his best form. He'd have a chance off around 11st.
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cheers,CMi
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Anyone know why BF won't put up a market? They've been asked enough times.
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For all those who haven't noticed - BF HAVE PUT UP A MARKET!
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wow this stands out like diamond harry did last year come on layers price up
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Has Nicholls mentioned anything about Michel Le Bon for this race, as he'd be one I could be interested in?
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I don't understand the reluctance to commit Beshabar to this race by the Vaughan team, he is absolutely tailor made for the challenge.
I understand they are keen on the National longer term for the horse however he has all the attributes needed for this race. A big galloping type in the mould of Denman, he really looked the part over fences in his last couple of runs, particularly at Ayr where he jumped like a buck. Newbury looks an ideal track for him and off a mark of 150, he is going to have a cracking weight around 10st 7lb provided one of the top weights stay in which looks likely (suspect Nicholls will keep one of the top two in to keep the weight down for Aiteenthirtythree). With doubts surrounding Weird Al and Time for Rupert, as reported in the RP tonight, Beshabar would be value at 14's antepost if there was a firm committment to run. |
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JONCOL into 14's (from 16's) after Thurles today.
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Yeah JOCI Nicholls said in the RP stable tour today that both 1833 and Michel le Bon are both intended runners.
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Interesting Air Force One, didn't realise he was only rated 128 these days, entered to run in a handicap this weekend, i prosume he'd have to go up 12lbs or so to get a run so he would be fit and worth betting at the weekend. If back to his best a mark of 140 could be quite interesting. Just not a massive fan of the trainer.
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FORM HORSE AGE WGT TRAINER
1 524P-3 What A Friend28 8 11-12 Paul Nicholls 2 B0186- Neptune Collonges224 10 11-11 Paul Nicholls 3 11P/1- Diamond Harry364 8 11-9 Nick Williams 4 18P-1 Weird Al28 8 11-7 Donald McCain 5 2121-1 Wishfull Thinking204 8 11-7 Philip Hobbs 6 433-1 Joncol23 8 11-5 Paul Nolan 7 115-2 Time For Rupert28 7 11-2 Paul Webber 8 01/35- Planet Of Sound315 9 11-1 Philip Hobbs 9 3/5P-2 Cooldine23 9 10-10 W P Mullins 10 131P-P Quinz28 7 10-10 Philip Hobbs 11 12F2-1 Sarando19 4x 6 10-10 Paul Webber 12 111P-2 Aiteen Thirtythree26 7 10-9 Paul Nicholls 13 5312- Mon Parrain232 5 10-9 Paul Nicholls 14 6119P- Blazing Bailey224 9 10-8 Alan King 15 8149P- Hey Big Spender231 8 10-8 Colin Tizzard 16 5-2143 Blazing Tempo21 7 10-8 W P Mullins 17 B121- Beshabar224 9 10-7 Tim Vaughan 18 518-U3 Chicago Grey28 8 10-7 Gordon Elliott 19 11134- Wayward Prince232 7 10-7 Ian Williams 20 62F6- Great Endeavour231 7 10-4 David Pipe 21 6649- Carruthers253 8 10-3 Mark Bradstock 22 631418 Muirhead28 8 10-3 Noel Meade 23 31311/ Michel Le Bon730 8 10-3 Paul Nicholls 24 F1UF-4 The Giant Bolster35 6 10-3 David Bridgwater 25 6242F- Calgary Bay231 8 10-3 Henrietta Knight 26 111P- Wymott255 7 10-1 Donald McCain 27 0P6U-2 Razor Royale28 9 10-0 Nigel Twiston-Davies 28 1-1473 Uncle Junior48 10 9-13 W P Mullins 29 934-U2 Fair Along28 9 9-13 Philip Hobbs 30 11P-15 Balthazar King28 7 9-12 Philip Hobbs 31 11PB- West End Rocker231 9 9-11 Alan King 32 980-54 Ouzbeck49 9 9-11 Emma Lavelle 33 2123-5 Tullamore Dew35 9 9-11 Nick Gifford 34 1797-1 Shakalakaboomboom203 7 9-11 Nicky Henderson 35 F65P-6 Madison Du Berlais21 10 9-11 David Pipe 36 5028-1 Billie Magern42 7 9-10 Nigel Twiston-Davies 37 P1R-12 Qhilimar27 7 9-8 Charlie Longsdon 38 1P50-P King Fontaine21 8 9-6 Malcolm Jefferson 39 63234- Vino Griego256 6 9-4 Gary Moore 40 7-4P19 Gone To Lunch21 11 9-1 Jeremy Scott 41 F2238/ Chariot Charger609 7 9-1 Emma Lavelle 42 54U12- General Kutuzov267 7 9-0 Nick Gifford 43 4230-3 Neptune Equester63 8 9-0 Brian Ellison 44 5213-7 Alderluck21 8 8-13 Nick Gifford 45 3UFP/P Air Force One28 9 8-13 Charlie Mann 46 411-U8 Dover´s Hill21 9 Mary Hambro |
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Wymott for me @ 16/1
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Wayward Prince for me. It looks like the weights will go up 1lb, because I don't think WAF will run, but Neptune will I think. Quinz could also be interesting if he takes his chance.
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dtamutants 08 Nov 11 01:35
Yeah JOCI Nicholls said in the RP stable tour today that both 1833 and Michel le Bon are both intended runners. Thanks - interesting news. |
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Quinz ran like a dog last time out - may have been spooked by his National run. Didn't go at all. Would need evidence that he's still in love with the game.
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Would like to know if Beshabar an intended runner. Could have a chance.
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Already on Joncol @ 20s but going to have a few €€€ om Wymott @ 14s carrying only 10-1
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Total shot in the dark but i though that Madison Du Berlais ran a better race on his comeback, showed a glimpse of his old self and is now at a dangerous mark, he can be better second and third times out
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I must have been watching a different horse to you zilzal. Expected much better from him tbh
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He's never set the world alight 1st time out Rod!!, just thought he ran on again after looking he might finish tailed off
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He gave me one of my biggest wins when he won the Hennessy (and I know he finished 8th in his prep run for that) but off the mark he had on Saturday I thought he was beaten too soon for me. I read that Pipe thought he could get him back to the top level this season but I'm struggling to see it right now - hope I'm wrong because the horse owes me nothing and would love to see him come back and win something decent
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I read somewhere that He's a "Greedy Eater" though and takes a bit of time to get ready, im probably going to give him a couple of chances off this type of mark(hes down another 2lb) as he might pop up at 33-1 plus and it wont cost the earth to find out
He might have gone, but hes still 10 so ill give him a shot |
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^ I agree with you zilzal. Have been keeping a quiet eye on him for a while now as Pipe, more than most, can get a big win from his horses when they have dropped to a fair mark after being rated too high.
I suspect MDB is not the horse he was (nowhere near) but I also have a feeling he retains enough ability to win one more good prize when conditions are right. Whether he can win the Hennessy is another question (probably too hit for him now) but at huge prices you are right, he's a cheap back. |
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Anyone know what the Pricewise horse is in today's RP?
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Forget it. Just looked at the betting on here - must be Michel le Bon
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He had two tips, I guess the other one was Planet of Sound, been backed today.
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Thanks DT
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Anyone know the safety limit for the field size? Thanks.
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Petethebloke, safety limit is 24.
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Thanks Baz. Did you just know this? I looked all over the place trying to find the info.
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I always cut out the big races, especially the handicaps, from the Racing Post, some I keep NOW such as the GRAND NATIONAL to compare weights from year to year.
As I have previously posted I think I am the only person in my town who ACTUALLY reads the conditions for races. I once found a race whereby the trainer could win the race and not pick up a penalty for a big handicap, because it was ONE pound under the stipulated value of race to be penalized. |
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1 524P-3 What A Friend28 8 11-12 Paul Nicholls 169 151 174
2 B0186- Neptune Collonges224 10 11-11 Paul Nicholls 168 141 172 3 11P/1- Diamond Harry364 8 11-9 Nick Williams 166 173 176 4 18P-1 Weird Al28 8 11-7 Donald McCain 164 139 175 5 121-16 Wishfull Thinking14 8 11-7 Philip Hobbs 164 156 174 6 433-1 Joncol23 8 11-5 Paul Nolan 162 151 171 7 115-2 Time For Rupert28 7 11-2 Paul Webber 159 150 175 8 01/35- Planet Of Sound315 9 11-1 Philip Hobbs 158 122 136 9 3/5P-2 Cooldine23 9 10-10 W P Mullins 153 130 174 10 131P-P Quinz28 7 10-10 Philip Hobbs 153 163 176 11 12F2-1 Sarando19 4x 6 10-10 Paul Webber 153 138 163 12 111P-2 Aiteen Thirtythree26 7 10-9 Paul Nicholls 152 153 177 13 5312-7 Mon Parrain14 5 10-9 Paul Nicholls 152 174 181 14 6119P- Blazing Bailey224 9 10-8 Alan King 151 162 176 15 149P-4 Hey Big Spender14 8 10-8 Colin Tizzard 151 179 180 16 21431 Blazing Tempo16 7 10-8 W P Mullins 151 167 180 17 B121- Beshabar224 9 10-7 Tim Vaughan 150 164 176 18 18-U37 Chicago Grey14 8 10-7 Gordon Elliott 150 126 176 19 11134- Wayward Prince232 7 10-7 Ian Williams 150 141 176 20 62F6-1 Great Endeavour14 7 10-4 David Pipe 147 163 188 21 6649-3 Carruthers14 8 10-3 Mark Bradstock 146 176 179 22 631418 Muirhead28 8 10-3 Noel Meade 146 156 182 23 31311/ Michel Le Bon730 8 10-3 Paul Nicholls 146 — — 24 1UF-4U The Giant Bolster14 6 10-3 David Bridgwater 146 131 173 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 25 242F-8 Calgary Bay14 8 10-3 Henrietta Knight 146 159 177 26 111P- Wymott255 7 10-1 Donald McCain 144 81 182 27 0P6U-2 Razor Royale28 9 10-0 Nigel Twiston-Davies 143 129 177 28 14731 Uncle Junior15 10 9-13 W P Mullins 142 159 174 29 34-U26 Fair Along14 9 9-13 Philip Hobbs 142 148 179 30 1P-15P Balthazar King14 7 9-12 Philip Hobbs 141 142 173 31 11PB-P West End Rocker14 9 9-11 Alan King 140 165 174 32 980-54 Ouzbeck49 9 9-11 Emma Lavelle DOUBTFUL 140 150 172 33 123-5F Tullamore Dew14 9 9-11 Nick Gifford 140 155 176 34 1797-1 Shakalakaboomboom203 7 9-11 Nicky Henderson 140 147 172 35 F65P-6 Madison Du Berlais21 10 9-11 David Pipe 140 128 163 36 028-15 Billie Magern14 7 9-10 Nigel Twiston-Davies 139 139 171 37 P1R-12 Qhilimar27 7 9-8 Charlie Longsdon 137 156 169 38 1P50-P King Fontaine21 8 9-6 Malcolm Jefferson DOUBTFUL 135 138 146 39 3234-5 Vino Griego15 6 9-4 Gary Moore 133 149 167 40 7-4P19 Gone To Lunch21 11 9-1 Jeremy Scott DOUBTFUL 130 128 166 41 2238/1 Chariot Charger14 7 9-1 Emma Lavelle DOUBTFUL 130 — 166 42 54U12- General Kutuzov267 7 9-0 Nick Gifford DOUBTFUL 129 148 158 43 4230-3 Neptune Equester63 8 9-0 Brian Ellison 129 144 160 44 5213-7 Alderluck21 8 8-13 Nick Gifford 128 155 163 45 UFP/PP Air Force One17 9 8-13 Charlie Mann 128 — — 46 411-U8 Dover´s Hill21 9 Mary Hambro 142 111 149 |
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When are the next forfeits out? I see the market is suspended.
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Prob midday Wednesday strontium. They usually suspend for 24hrs I think.
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Anyone know if Carruthers has been confirmed as on target for this?
6th in last years race off 156,he is now due to run off 143 (actually dropped another 3 lb after the weights were published) For me last years race was a much more classy affair,with Denman top weight and Diamond Harry,Burton Port and Weird Al all running off 10-0. Was quite pleased with Carruthers re-appearance at Cheltenham,where he jumped and travelled well,until possibly blowing up 3 out.If this is the target,imo 25/1 is quite tempting. |
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*should read .....now due to run off 146 (is now rated 143).
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