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What will run in Juddmonte?
What will run in Juddmonte?
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didnt leger winner win this , commanche run, agree with apache, worth a poke nothing to lose, make it a fast with 2 pacemakers could nick it, or even go from the front
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Also for the stud value. SNA has already won a G1 over 12 furlongs.
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I would doubt both Twice Over and Midday will run. Middays target is the Yorkshire Oaks is it not?
Any chance Coolmore won't have a runner? Thoe only logical choice would now seem a test of Await the Dawn at the highest level in what is unlikely to be the strongest renewal ever. |
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Coolmore would have the pick of the foal crop one year and then Juddmonte would have first choice the following year.
In 2007 Coolmore chose Await The Dawn and the following year Juddmonte elected to keep Frankel... Imagine the hype about the horse if Coolmore had picked him [;)] |
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what about zoffany for this, i expected him to be in the sussex to be honest, has he run since finishing 3rd in france in the strong suit race bout 4 weeks ago ,
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Ballydoyle say Zoffany is running over 6f at Deauville this weekend.
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Yeah looks like Zoffany will clash with Dream Ahead in the Prix Maurice De Gheest on Sunday.
Anne-Marie O'Brien also tweeted that Recital will run again in 4-6 weeks. Guess he might be trained for the Arc? 4-6 weeks might indicate Prix Niel target anyway. |
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isnt zoffany worth a try over further
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Zoffany with a proper ride might actually win a Group 1.
Moore was terrible in France last time. |
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Planteur is going to run in the Jacques le Marois so scrub him from the Juddmonte.
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Very possible Cecil will run both, wanted to run her in the King George but got overuled. by the way has 2 of his most promising juveniles running in next couple of days, Wrotham Heath (tomorrow) & Stipulate (Sunday) Noble Mission may run at Newmarket tomorrow week.
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who would TPQ pick ?
It is actually the first season this season that Cecil has allowed Midday to run against Colts. Last season he would not entertain the idea. For which horse, Twice Over or Midday, would winning the International be more valuable ? |
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winning the International wouldn't enhance Midday's value because any progeny she produces Abdulla is going to keep (he also bred her).
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why run both in same race when sir henry could win both races as it seems with lack of creditable runners in opposition
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Await the Dawn is a more than credible opponent and goes off favourite against anything except So You Think.
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AWD wins,agree, if he runs. Im just hoping there is some reasonable opposiion. If both Cecil horses run we should at least be looking at 6/4,imo.
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hippie, i said lack of creditable, i didnt say any,though i do agree awd wins if he runs
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What about Dunlop avoiding a clash with Midday again and siding with this race with Snow Fairy
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Could be a good idea, the Yorkshire Oaks is looking like being the stronger race
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Snow Fairy needs a big field and lots of pace to be at her best.
Yorkshire Oaks is likely to similiar to the Nassau Stakes, though the extra 2f would be more to Snow Fairy's liking. The Arc is one race where I'd like to see Snow Fairy. Any chance she might go there? |
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He only ran Ouija Board in it once didn't he? Doubt he thinks SF is good enough
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Not sure about The Arc but agree re needing faster pace etc.So unlikely she'll run it. i'd think about it though Ed? Group 2 only winner as evens fav?
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ATD way too short - 12f horse IMO. Twice Over is a specialist at this distance. Would take Midday to beat ATD but expect she'll go to the Yorkshire Oaks. What about Frankel? He's still in the race at the moment.
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I think Tom would choose Twice Over on his best form, think going to Dubai messed him up but back to his best now, good chance Midday will run as well as she as nothing to prove against her own sex and the fact that Juddmonte sponser the race Abdulla might want to give himself a fighting chance to win his own race, by the way Await The Dawn Juddmonte Bred.
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ATD is a 10f horse. The only reason he ran in the Hardwicke was because So You Think was running in the Prince of Wales, the same reason Cape Blanco ran in the Queen Anne.
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Caward, if queally had to choose I think it would be midday. Sure I've seen an interview recently where he said that midday was the best horse he'd sat on until frankel came along. I still think midday would only run if twice over doesn't. Why would Cecil run both when he could win both races by splitting them
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ATD
Looking through his form , can anyone point out any proven G1 performers that he has beaten. Seems to be a lot of hype. |
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ATD had won a group 2 and two group 3s very easily. Suggesting he is probably good enough to win this group 1 is hardly hype. It doesn't even look that strong a group 1.
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ATD has been pulled from the Royal Whip Stakes. He must be coming.
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ATD - 2.12, So You Think - 8.4
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Cecil ran 2 in the Nassau last saturday so don't see that being a problem, also has Vita Nova entered in Yorkshire Oaks and at this moment in time she is a runner as regards Queally's pick of Midday & Twice Over might be down to sentiment.
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Its not out of the question that they both run in the juddmonte Caward, but it's a different situation than the Nassau for me. Here you have two grp 1 horses and two grp 1 races, with a good chance of winning both. I wouldn't have principal role down as a grp 1 horse, at least not a consistent performer at that level. I think they ran her as well just in case midday under performed again and perhaps because there was little else for her.
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Will Rio de la Plata go?
Never been my idea of a real Group One horse but as has been said, it is quite possible that a good Group Two beast could pick this prize up in 2011. Although a lot of his form is in foreign races, he looks a very solid 118-120-horse to me and could be a bit of value if it's a small field and he sits handy. Am guessing he is not going but wondered if anyone had heard differently? |
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A lot of money fro Frankel - I have just laid at 4 on here.
If Frankel does run. Await The Dawn will be available to back at 8/1 or something. Not that this would be good value against Frankel. |
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Is it Possible that HRAC has had a change of heart given that Frankels Sussex win was nothing mroe than an exercise gallop plus the fact the QEII is a long wait and will be a walk over given the retirement of Canford ?
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or perhaps since Coolmore announced SYT goes for the Irish Champion. All quotes about Frankel waiting for the QEII were before then ..
I hope he runs as it would be great to see but doubt it will happen. |
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I am going to make my annual pilgrimage to York. Hope Frankel turns out. Someone really does seem keen to get some dosh on (£600) at quite a short price for such a doubtful runner.
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Another "alledged" race for SYT................YAWN.
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Another "alledged" race for SYT................YAWN.
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cryoftruth, this tues/thurs was my fav meeting of the year, with 7 top class races a day, i think 8 on the thursday, but this 4 days festival now is pretty average imo, 6 races and some poor quality ones as well, all about greed. as for this frankel money on here, dont know whats going on, i admit ive layed frankel for this ,only for small money, but cant think whats this 600 quid on here
 , love to take it as sir henry has said wont be going, but havent the bottle, surely someone at warren place would have taken this if hes defo not going |