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Always Waining (IRE) Peter Bowen 10
Ambobo (USA) M. Brassil, Ireland 11 Apt Approach (IRE) W. P. Mullins, Ireland 8 Arbor Supreme (IRE) W. P. Mullins, Ireland 9 Askthemaster (IRE) Robert Tyner, Ireland 11 Backstage (FR) Gordon Elliott, Ireland 9 Ballabriggs (IRE) Donald McCain 10 Ballyfitz Nigel Twiston-Davies 11 Ballytrim (IRE) W. P. Mullins, Ireland 10 Becauseicouldntsee (IRE) Noel Glynn, Ireland 8 Belon Gale (IRE) Howard Johnson 8 Big Fella Thanks Ferdy Murphy 9 Bluesea Cracker (IRE) James Motherway, Ireland 9 Burren Legend (IRE) Richard Rowe 10 Calgary Bay (IRE) Henrietta Knight 8 Can't Buy Time (IRE) Jonjo O'Neill 9 Cane Brake (IRE) Conor O'Dwyer, Ireland 12 Carronhills (IRE) Rebecca Curtis 9 Character Building (IRE) John Quinn 11 Chief Dan George (IRE) James Moffatt 11 Comply Or Die (IRE) David Pipe 12 Deep Purple Evan Williams 10 Dev (IRE) Gordon Elliott, Ireland 11 Don't Push It (IRE) Jonjo O'Neill 11 Dooneys Gate (IRE) W. P. Mullins, Ireland 10 Dream Alliance Philip Hobbs 10 Duers (IRE) Paul Magnier, Ireland 9 Faasel (IRE) David Pipe 10 Fair Along (GER) Philip Hobbs 9 Frankie Figg (IRE) Howard Johnson 9 From Dawn To Dusk Philip Hobbs 12 Galant Nuit (FR) Ferdy Murphy 7 Giles Cross (IRE) Victor Dartnall 9 Glencove Marina (IRE) Eoin Griffin, Ireland 9 Golden Kite (IRE) A. Maguire, Ireland 9 Grand Slam Hero (IRE) Nigel Twiston-Davies 10 Gullible Gordon (IRE) Paul Nicholls 8 Hello Bud (IRE) Nigel Twiston-Davies 13 I'moncloudnine (IRE) Neil Mulholland 8 I'msingingtheblues (IRE) David Pipe 9 In Compliance (IRE) D. T. Hughes, Ireland 11 Junior David Pipe 8 Just Amazing (IRE) Paul Nicholls 8 Khachaturian (IRE) Donald McCain 8 Killyglen (IRE) Stuart Crawford, Ireland 9 King Fontaine (IRE) Malcolm Jefferson 8 Le Beau Bai (FR) Richard Lee 8 Little Josh (IRE) Nigel Twiston-Davies 9 Majestic Concorde (IRE) D. K. Weld, Ireland 8 Meanus Dandy (IRE) Paul Nicholls 8 Merigo (FR) Andrew Parker 10 Midnight Chase Neil Mulholland 9 Mobaasher (USA) Venetia Williams 8 Nedzer's Return (IRE) Gordon Elliott, Ireland 9 Neptune Collonges (FR) Paul Nicholls 10 Niche Market (IRE) Paul Nicholls 10 Nicto de Beauchene (FR) Victor Dartnall 10 Noble Concorde J. Culloty, Ireland 9 Northern Alliance (IRE) A. J. Martin, Ireland 10 Notre Pere (FR) Barry Potts, Ireland 10 One Cool Cookie (IRE) Charlie Swan, Ireland 10 Ornais (FR) Paul Nicholls 9 Or Noir de Somoza (FR) J. P. Totain, France 9 Oscar Time (IRE) M. M. Lynch, Ireland 10 Our Monty (IRE) W. P. Mullins, Ireland 8 Piraya (FR) David Pipe 8 Pomme Tiepy (FR) W. P. Mullins, Ireland 8 Putney Bridge Keith Goldsworthy 9 Quezac de La Roque (FR) F. Cottin, France 7 Quinz (FR) Philip Hobbs 7 Quiscover Fontaine (FR) W. P. Mullins, Ireland 7 Quolibet (FR) Jonjo O'Neill 7 Regal Heights (IRE) Tom George 10 Roll Along (IRE) Nigel Twiston-Davies 11 Royal Rosa (FR) Howard Johnson 12 Saddlers Storm (IRE) A. J. Martin, Ireland 9 Sagalyrique (FR) Donald McCain 7 Santa's Son (IRE) Howard Johnson 11 Scotsirish (IRE) W. P. Mullins, Ireland 10 Silver By Nature Lucinda Russell 9 Skippers Brig (IRE) Nicky Richards 10 Snowy Morning (IRE) Colin Bowe, Ireland 11 Starzaan (IRE) Hughie Morrison 12 State of Play Evan Williams 11 Surface To Air Chris Bealby 10 Synchronised (IRE) Jonjo O'Neill 8 Taranis (FR) Paul Nicholls 10 Tatenen (FR) Richard Rowe 7 That's Rhythm (FR) Martin Todhunter 11 The Midnight Club (IRE) W. P. Mullins, Ireland 10 The Sawyer (BEL) Bob Buckler 11 The Sliotar (IRE) Philip Hobbs 10 The Tother One (IRE) Paul Nicholls 10 Tidal Bay (IRE) Howard Johnson 10 Tinakellylad (IRE) M. F. Morris, Ireland 7 Toby Jug Sarah Humphrey 10 Tranquil Sea (IRE) E. J. O'Grady, Ireland 9 Treacle (IRE) Tom J. Taaffe, Ireland 10 Tricky Trickster (IRE) Paul Nicholls 8 Vic Venturi (IRE) D. T. Hughes, Ireland 11 West End Rocker (IRE) Alan King 9 What A Friend Paul Nicholls 8 |
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Junior looks an interesting one!!!
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DEN MANIA fans will be upset AGAIN this year [;)]
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WEIGHTS on February 15th. (before you ask)
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Ballabriggs (16) , Big Fella Thanks (20) , Niche Market (20) , Dont Push It (22) , Becauseicouldntsee (25) , Merigo (25) , Siegemaster (25) , Synchronised (25) , The Midnight Club (25) , Alfa Beat (33) , Blazing Bailey (33) , Great Endeavour (33) , Minella Boys (33) , Oscar Time (33) , Rare Bob (33) , State of Play (33) , Theatrical Moment (33) , West End Rocker (33) , Whinstone Boy (33) , Hello Bud (39) - Others 39 or more
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From Dawn To Dusk For me watch the race it won on National Day last year A race Dont Push It won b4 going on to national glory..........Finished like A choo Choo and got plenty of stamina had A cpl of quiet runs and hopefully builing up to the big one ....
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The Midnight Club
The Tother One Northern Alliance West End Rocker ^ winner comes from those 4 ^ |
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Vic Venturi
Chief Dan George Oscar Time Roll Along Bluesea Cracker Winner comes from the above |
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no Black Apalachi? Shame deserved another crack at it
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Good thread.
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this is nicholls year imo
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So far I'm on
Always Waining 170/1 Backstage 40/1 BecauseIcouldntsee 130/1 The Midnight Club 40/1 State of Play 45/1 |
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Backed so far (all e/w):
The Midnight Club (50/1 - 5 places) Ballabriggs (33/1 - 5 places) Merigo (33/1 - 5 places) Big Fella Thanks (25/1) |
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redesolva which nichols horse do you think has the best chance?
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Doogs
Decent book you have |
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Cheers TV [;)]
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does any one know what they set the maximum weight at and which horse will be carrying it
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Neptune Collonges 168
Tidal Bay 166 Don´t Push It 164 Midnight Chase 163 Deep Purple 160 Here are the top weights amongst the initial entries according to the RP. My guess is that Don't Push It will be top weight with 11st 10lb probably as that has been the highest weight in the last few years |
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Need to look at those sitting sub 11 stone...assuming Don't Push It is top weight with 11:10...ballabriggs looks to have a great chance off 10:10?
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I can't have Ballabriggs in this at all, very doubtful stayer in my book
Backstage had a provisional rating of 143 when the RP published the entries last week so theoretically is going to be off roughly 10st 3lb in this (although handicapper frames his own weights from what I believe) if DPI is the likely top weight with 11st 10lb. Backstage was still tanking when being brought down on the 2nd circuit last year when carrying 11st (DPI carried 11st 5lb when winning) and I think connections will be well chuffed with his likely weight if he is handicapped on that mark. Wouldn't worry about him not being seen recently, trainer confirmed he was being aimed at this race a few weeks back on ATR and he is already within the top 50 rated horses on the official handicap so shouldn't be any doubts about him getting in. Based on the last 3 years the bottom rated horse has been rated 138 (2008), 139 (2009) and 139 (2010). Probably need a rating of 141 to be safe this year. |
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I assume you're doubting his ability to stay based on him being 10 lengths up at the last and just holding on in the amateur riders race at cheltenham last year? I would note that he has won foiur chases over 3m 1f+ and in the amateur race arguably he was sent on too soon 3 fences out and he did have top weight of 11:12 - was he not entitled to get tired close home? There's plenty of stamina from his sire presenting (Denman; war of attrition; weapons amnesty) and the dam is out of blakeney...there's a risk as always - but I'd be willing to take it on staying...
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NEPTUNE COLLONGES and FRENCH TRAINED HORSE WILL BE JOINT TOP WEIGHTS, Ballabrigs and others will be handicapped closer to these top weights to give the high weights a chance to carry their weight, as is Mr Smiths usual way of handicapping this unique race.
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Nicholls hinted at the weekend that Neptune Collonges wont be running in the GN. Dont know about the Frenchie though.
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Ballabriggs (16) , Big Fella Thanks (20) , Dont Push It (20) , Niche Market (20) , The Midnight Club (20) , Merigo (25) , Synchronised (25) , West End Rocker (26) , Becauseicouldntsee (29) , Backstage (33) , Oscar Time (33) , State of Play (33) , Hello Bud (37) , Notre Pere (37) , Midnight Chase (39) , Calgary Bay (40) , Majestic Concorde (40) , Northern Alliance (40) , Our Monty (40) , Quiscover Fontaine (40) - Others 40 or more
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French horse now moved to Pipe's yard, def intended runner in National, its rated 168 over here. This horse will be top weight!
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Becauseicouldntsee faces a race against time to be ready for the John Smith's Grand National after undergoing surgery on a hind leg.
The eight-year-old is due back at Noel Glynn's stables in County Clare from the Fethard Equine Hospital in County Tipperary on Friday and the trainer remains hopeful the horse will make Aintree on April 9th. "It's 50-50 for Aintree at the minute. He's coming home from the hospital tomorrow but we think we'll make it. We still have eight weeks so we should get there. "He'll have to have a week off when he gets home, but we think we'll get there. We were going to give him a run before the National but we won't now. If he's fit enough he'll go directly to Aintree." |
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Ballabriggs to carry more or less than 11 stone? At a guess think he'l race bang on it
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Looks like being a poor renewal thsi year with Don't Push It being top weight. I expect a horse weighted around 140 will win it.
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WEIGHTS on February 15th.
Harry Findlay to sell horses and quit racing.... “They will all come under the hammer at the Doncaster sales on April 21 and, in all likelihood, our last ever runner will be Big Fella Thanks in the Grand National.” Ballabriggs (16) , Big Fella Thanks (20) , Dont Push It (20) , Niche Market (20) , The Midnight Club (20) , Merigo (25) , Synchronised (25) , West End Rocker (25) , Oscar Time (28) , Becauseicouldntsee (29) , Backstage (33) , Notre Pere (33) , State of Play (33) , Bluesea Cracker (35) , Hello Bud (37) , Midnight Chase (38) , Calgary Bay (40) , Chief Dan George (40) , Northern Alliance (40) , Our Monty (40) - Others 40 or more |
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It's certainly not the "meatiest" renewal of recent years for sure. Not much strength and depth this time so might be easier to pin down a handful of classier rivals.
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Agreed Mully.One of the weaker renewals imo. My initial list includes:
Tick most boxes: Ballabriggs West end rocker with some reservations: notre pere Chief dan george State of Play I'm hoping for 10:12 on Ballabriggs tomorrow. |
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I've keen on CDG at the moment Fistful. Seeing what weight he's burdened with Tuesday before backing up.
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Agreed Mully - got good chance if getting there fit and well. Too stiff a task first comeback race...would like to see him run back to form in an easier contest....suspect the trainer is protecting the mark...GL
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I'm going to go to Haydock on Saturday to see if that race gives me any clues.
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What time are the weights out men?
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Top 5 weights on Twitter at 11 am, the rest released at 11.30 am
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PF Trader I suspect you are other than a fool having looked at a few of your posts.
My analysis is that Backstage ticks a number of boxes, and is very decent value at anything over 30 as he is such a likely runner and very likely to be backed as well. |
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Is this twitter attatched to Wetherby's?
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