7/1 for Great Endeavour is not good value. Its looking like being one of the best renewals in years. i expect Great Endeavour will be bigger than 7/1 on the day.

Long Run 3/1
Tranquil Sea 5/1
Copper Bleu 8/1

The rest 10/1 or bigger imo

1. Why Great Endeavour now only 5's - anything specific behind the move ?

2. Who will ride him ? Danny Cook (DJ has a soft spot for this lad who is a good jock) or TJ ? Presumably the other gets to ride Chapoturgeon.

3. Long Run's Stunt jock fell off Otage de Brion in a race I saw a few days ago - easy to slate him, looked like he faltered under pressure at the last but let's not tempt fate. Anyone else agree he simply just might bodge it at Chelters ? Clearly trying to get his eye in though so fairplay to him for his many recent rides.

4. O'Grady may also be aiming Osana and another fella at this as well as Tranquil Sea - what do we make of that ?

5. Poquelin - wants it quick IMVHO as witnessed Saturday. Likely to get it here ?

7's GE is looking good. There is one at double figures who may run if we get rain according to trainer and I'll back him as well.

Yes.

Entered on Saturday in the Poplar Chase.

Price has collapsed on here I note.

Anyone know when the weights are published?

Think entries close today - weights published Thursday / Friday?

Cant wait 1st cracking meeting of season,lets hope Great Endeavour and Copper Bleu ( slight setback according to trainer) make it my fancies at moment with all the others as looks cracking reneawal at present,decs out tomorrow so few more clues.
Mad Max could be very interesting fto!

I think Great Endevour is a cracking horse and asked for him to be added to the Gold Cup market such is my belief that he will be top class. That said I wanted more than the 200s that was available (now 100s) and the 7s for the PP 1 month before the race was also to short for me.

I still think he will most probably win but value has to be the key and he is simply not value at the moment.

Where are the ratings for the irish horses?

According To Pete
Awesome George
Can't Buy Time (IRE)
Catch Me (GER)
Chaninbar (FR)
Dancing Tornado (IRE)
Dave's Dream (IRE)
Door Boy (IRE)
Duc de Regniere (FR)
Edgbriar (FR)
Finger Onthe Pulse (IRE)
Fiendish Flame (IRE)
Fisher Bridge (IRE)
Five Dream (FR)
Forzy Origny (FR)
Free World (FR)
From Dawn To Dusk
Gansey (IRE)
Gonebeyondrecall (IRE
Great Endeavour (IRE)
Gwanako (FR)
Hills of Aran
I'msingingtheblues (IRE)
Il Duce (IRE)
Just Smudge
Little Josh (IRE)
Long Run (FR)
Mad Max (IRE)
Massini's Maguire (IRE)
Noble Alan (GER)
Noland
Nozic (FR)
Osana (FR)
Panjo Bere (FR)
Passato (GER)
Pickamus (FR)
Pigeon Island
Poquelin (FR)
Prince de Beauchene (FR)
Private Be
Riverside Theatre
Rory Boy (USA)
Scotsirish (IRE)
See U Bob (IRE)
Sunnyhillboy (IRE)
Tatenen (FR)
Tchico Polos (FR)
The Package
The Sawyer (BEL)
Tranquil Sea (IRE)
Weird Al (IRE)
Working Title (IRE)
You're The Top (FR)

Hope I havnt ruined the thread with the size of the post gl

With Trainers and age...

According To Pete  J. M. Jefferson  9
Awesome George  A. King  6
Can't Buy Time (IRE)  Jonjo O'Neill  8
Catch Me (GER)  E. J. O'Grady, Ireland  8
Chaninbar (FR)  M. F. Harris  7
Dancing Tornado (IRE)  M. Hourigan, Ireland  9
Dave's Dream (IRE)  N. J. Henderson  7
Door Boy (IRE)  J. Howard Johnson  7
Duc de Regniere (FR)  N. J. Henderson  8
Edgbriar (FR)  P. R. Webber  8
Fiendish Flame (IRE)  D. McCain Jnr  6
Finger Onthe Pulse (IRE)  T. J. Taaffe, Ireland  9
Fisher Bridge (IRE)  N. Meade, Ireland  7
Five Dream (FR)  P. F. Nicholls  6
Forzy Origny (FR)  N. J. Henderson  8
Free World (FR)  P. F. Nicholls  6
From Dawn To Dusk  P. J. Hobbs  11
Gansey (IRE)  Mrs S. J. Smith  8
Gonebeyondrecall (IRE)  N. F. Glynn, Ireland  7
Great Endeavour (IRE)  D. E. Pipe 6
Gwanako (FR)  P. F. Nicholls  7
Hills of Aran  W. K. Goldsworthy  8
I'msingingtheblues (IRE)  D. E. Pipe 8
Il Duce (IRE)  A. King  10
Just Smudge  Miss Venetia Williams  8
Little Josh (IRE) N. A. Twiston-Davies  8
Long Run (FR)  N. J. Henderson  5
Mad Max (IRE)  N. J. Henderson  8
Massini's Maguire (IRE)  D. E. Pipe 9
Noble Alan (GER)  N. G. Richards 7
Noland  P. F. Nicholls  9
Nozic (FR)  N. J. Gifford  9
Osana (FR)  E. J. O'Grady, Ireland  8
Panjo Bere (FR)  G. L. Moore 7
Passato (GER) Miss J. S. Davis  6
Pickamus (FR)  H. D. Daly 7
Pigeon Island  N. A. Twiston-Davies 7
Poquelin (FR)  P. F. Nicholls  7
Prince de Beauchene (FR)  J. Howard Johnson 7
Private Be  P. J. Hobbs 11
Riverside Theatre  N. J. Henderson  6
Rory Boy (USA) N. A. Twiston-Davies 5
Scotsirish (IRE)  W. P. Mullins, Ireland 9
See U Bob (IRE)  Paul Nolan, Ireland 7
Sunnyhillboy (IRE)  Jonjo O'Neill  7
Tatenen (FR)  R. Rowe  6
Tchico Polos (FR)  P. F. Nicholls  6
The Package  D. E. Pipe  7
The Sawyer (BEL)  R. H. Buckler  10
Tranquil Sea (IRE)  E. J. O'Grady, Ireland 8
Weird Al (IRE)  Ian Williams  7
Working Title (IRE)  N. J. Henderson 8
You're The Top (FR)  N. J. Henderson 6

Or NO Ballyfitz or Chapoturgeon for that matter

Also Jonjo stated wants to get run b4 for Sunnyhillboy so imagine he may be doubtful?
No Copper which is shame,Great Endeavour at 8s looks ok at mo, saver nearer day on Mad Max maybe?

just came on here to see if anyone fancies catch me can't go off 16/1 surely? :)

Its looking like a very good race. I fancy a couple of horses on marks of 140. I'm not convinced they will get into the race though. what do you think the cut off will be as a lot of the Irish horses haven't got marks yet?

vin,
33's,25's,20's and expect the 16's to disappear shortly !

Radium won well for the Henderson team yesterday.

What did we make of Catch Me's run yesterday .. ?

As a Catch Me backer (nicked some of the early 25s :p), I was happy with the run, should be set up perfectly for the big one.