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Shahwardi (FR)  51
b c Lando - Shamdara 9 - 10
J Gask
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2 2745-05 Ajaan 17 D
br h Machiavellian - Alakananda 9 - 7 E Ahern
H R A Cecil
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3 1621P/6 Shipmaster 150 D
b g Slip Anchor - Cover Look 9 - 7
A King
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4 111441 Lady Eclair (IRE)  14 CD
b f Danehill Dancer - Bex 9 - 4 J Fanning
M Johnston
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5 1/14-010 Fortuni (IRE)  17
b g Montjeu - Desert Ease 9 - 2
Sir Mark Prescott
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6 5-71842 Red Cadeaux 14
ch g Cadeaux Genereux - Artisia 9 - 2 R L Moore
E A L Dunlop
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7 0-40142 Woolfall Treasure 28 D
gr g Daylami - Treasure Trove 9 - 2
G L Moore
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8 026416 La Vecchia Scuola (IRE)  14 CD
b m Mull Of Kintyre - Force Divine 9 - 1
J S Goldie
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9 090138 Spirit Is Needed (IRE)  28 C
b g No Excuse Needed - The Spirit Of Pace 9 - 0
M Johnston
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10 0181-04 Braveheart Move (IRE)  23
b g Cape Cross - Token Gesture 9 - 0
Jonjo O'Neill
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11 2-24232 Plymouth Rock (IRE)  8 BF
b c Sadler's Wells - Zarawa 9 - 0
J Noseda
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12 100-636 Desert Sea (IRE)  17 D
b g Desert Sun - Sea of Time 9 - 0
D W P Arbuthnot
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13 201-065 Precision Break (USA)  14 D
b g Silver Deputy - Miss Kitty Cat 9 - 0 J P Spencer
P F I Cole
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14 770-690
Centennial (IRE)  17
gr h Dalakhani - Lurina 8 - 13
Jonjo O'Neill
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15 1660-48
Moon Indigo 17 D
b g Sadler's Wells - Solo de Lune 8 - 13 P Mulrennan
J Howard Johnson
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16 38-7511
Kansai Spirit (IRE)  22
ch g Sinndar - Daanat Nawal 8 - 13 William Buick
J H M Gosden
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17 667421
Rangefinder 14
gr g Linamix - Risen Raven 8 - 13 S W Kelly
Jane Chapple-Hyam
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18 0-83079
Macarthur 28
b g Montjeu - Out West 8 - 12 Lewis Walsh (7)
Jane Chapple-Hyam
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19 7-51096
Perfect Shot (IRE)  15 D
b g High Chaparral - Zoom Lens 8 - 11
J L Dunlop
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20 1-21210
Chilly Filly (IRE)  17 D
b f Montjeu - Chill Seeking 8 - 10
M Johnston
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21 005653
Becausewecan (USA)  15
b g Giant's Causeway - Belle Sultane 8 - 10
M Johnston
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22 1215-50
Recession Proof (FR)  91
ch g Rock Of Gibraltar - Elevate 8 - 9 P Cosgrave
J J Quinn
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23 893014 Porgy 28
b g Dansili - Light Ballet 8 - 9
R A Fahey
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24 4-62514
Cotillion 28 CD
b g Sadler's Wells - Riberac 8 - 8 T Eaves
Ian Williams
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25 330390
Crackentorp 17
b g Generous - Raspberry Sauce 8 - 8
T D Easterby
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26 341151
Mount Athos (IRE)  15 CD
b c Montjeu - Ionian Sea 8 - 5
J W Hills
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27 074400
Cosmic Sun 5
b g Helissio - Cosmic Case 8 - 4
R A Fahey
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28 166782
Dazzling Light (UAE)  17 D
b m Halling - Crown of Light 8 - 1
J S Goldie
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29 221057
Bowdler's Magic 15 D
b c Hernando - Slew The Moon 8 - 1
M Johnston
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30 1-52681
Crocus Rose 21 D
b f Royal Applause - Crodelle 8 - 1
H J L Dunlop
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31 13-2441
Arab League (IRE)  23 D
b g Dubai Destination - Johnny And Clyde 8 - 1 W A Carson
R J Price
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32 699222
Omokoroa (IRE)  14 BF
b g Hawkeye - Alycus 8 - 1
M H Tompkins
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33 016173
Christopher Wren (USA)  15 C
ch c D'Wildcat - Ashley's Coy 8 - 0 Kieren Fox (5)
J R Best
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34 1361
Maxim Gorky (IRE)  8
b c Montjeu - Altruiste 8 - 0
Sir Michael Stoute
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35 342213
Ceoil An Aith (IRE)  9
b f Accordion - Lady In Pace 7 - 10
M Johnston
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36 61-4316
Green Lightning (IRE)  15
b c Montjeu - Angelic Song 7 - 7
M Johnston
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37 021336
Boston Blue 38 D
b g Halling - City of Gold 7 - 6
W J Knight
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38 699-043
Red Fama 20 D
ch g Fraam - Carol Again 7 - 3
N Bycroft
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Report pmt August 31, 2010 3:37 PM BST
BETTING VC and BETfrd

Maxim Gorky (7) , Red Cadeaux (7) , Mount Athos (8) , Fortuni (10) , Lady Eclair (10) , Plymouth Rock (10) , Ajaan (14) , Christopher Wren (14) , Kansai Spirit (14) , Omokoroa (14) , Arab League (16) , Becausewecan (16) , Boston Blue (16) , Cotillion (16) , Crocus Rose (16) , Green Lightning (16) , Precision Break (16) , Rangefinder (16) , Bowdlers Magic (20) , Braveheart Move (20)  - Others 20 or more
Report ben10 August 31, 2010 3:48 PM BST
Kansai Spirit is far too big
Report TD_Gunner August 31, 2010 3:58 PM BST
Fortuni would be my early guess, Ebor run worth another look.
Report sintonian August 31, 2010 4:01 PM BST
RED CADEAUX is likely to bid for compensation for a narrow defeat on his last start in Saturday's £70,000 Betfred Kingspin Old Borough Cup at Haydock.


RELATED LINKS
Old Borough Cup race card 
Ronnie Arculli's four-year-old won a hot handicap at Lingfield earlier in the year and looked a little unlucky not to add to his seasonal tally when chasing Lady Eclair home at Chester on August 21.



Unlike stablemate Snow Fairy, Red Cadeaux excels on soft ground and trainer Ed Dunlop is hoping that the heavy rain forecast for Friday materialises.

Quoted on his website, Dunlop said: "He was always wider than we would have liked at Chester, but it was still a smashing effort running an in-form mare so close.

"He loves soft ground and it is on the easy side up there now. While they are predicting dry weather until Thursday, they are then expecting 10mm of rain on Friday."
Report sintonian August 31, 2010 4:01 PM BST
I thought Michael Hills could have been a little stronger in the saddle lto, tbh. Should have won imo.
Report stevo1 August 31, 2010 4:39 PM BST
Agree with you Ben Kansai too big at 14/1 with Betthreepence still 14s cut with other,should go on ground and open to further improvement.
Also Maxim Gorky needs a good few to get a run?
So have risked a few sheckles at 14s e/w may pay for my w-end away up-coming with my baby!!
Report stevo1 August 31, 2010 5:24 PM BST
Bet Thread now 10s didnt take long 14s with Sid James still.
Report El Apache August 31, 2010 6:00 PM BST
Still 14 at Sid James
Report Dark Destroyer August 31, 2010 6:01 PM BST
Dangerous to read too much into mid-week form but Gosden has had a lot of winners today.

Kansai for me as well.
Report ben10 August 31, 2010 6:28 PM BST
Good to see plenty agree, good luck all Cool
Report El Apache August 31, 2010 6:54 PM BST
Clipped into 12 by Sid James
Report carvillshill August 31, 2010 8:36 PM BST
Watch out Gunny, Fortuni has another option according to today's Post.
Report El Apache August 31, 2010 9:30 PM BST
KS

Now into 10 at Sid James
Report Reefer 2001 August 31, 2010 10:00 PM BST
I've missed the boat here.  Front 2 in the market won't get a run, ground should dry up too much for Red Cadeux and Buick is booked for another on the card so it looks at though Kansai will turn up.  10's should be 5's on the day with a bit of luck.   Those 14's should have a decent bet. Racing style will suit Haydock, stable bang in form and will stay.  Form last time not too good however.  1pt e/w @ 10's.
Report grw123 August 31, 2010 11:48 PM BST
if mount athos turns up it will have a great chance imo
Report sintonian September 1, 2010 8:53 AM BST
"He loves soft ground and it is on the easy side up there now. While they are predicting dry weather until Thursday, they are then expecting 10mm of rain on Friday."
Report ben10 September 1, 2010 11:47 AM BST
Sint, been updated:

HAYDOCK PARK - Flat (Updated:01/09/2010 at 08:48)   
Going

5f & 6f: Good
1m and further: Good to Soft
Rails

Sprint Races on Inner Home Straight
Races over 1m and further on Stand Side Course.
Weather

Dry since monday and forecast to remain dry and warm.
Rain risk receding to next week.
Report sintonian September 1, 2010 12:40 PM BST
Ta Ben.
Report Dark Destroyer September 1, 2010 2:30 PM BST
Let me get this straight.

There are eminently sensible people on here trying to predict the going at, of all courses, Haydock Laugh
Report El Apache September 1, 2010 6:09 PM BST
KS

Now into 8 at Sid James
Report stevo1 September 1, 2010 10:58 PM BST
Lets hope he turns up.
Report Prescription Drugs September 2, 2010 7:50 AM BST
I'm on board with KS too, ground drying up around here and no chance of rain before Saturday. I expect he'll go off about 4s
Report Reefer 2001 September 2, 2010 8:13 AM BST
Fortuni won't turn up.  Mount Athos could get a run if declared.  Lets hope he's declared and is also drawn lowish.
Report Dark Destroyer September 2, 2010 12:07 PM BST
1 (18)    2745-05 Ajaan 17   6 9-10 b  H R A Cecil  E Ahern  103    SP SP SP 
2 (5)    1621P/6 Shipmaster 150   7 9-10  A King  S Drowne  103    SP SP SP 
3 (4)    111441 Lady Eclair (IRE) 14   4 9-7  M Johnston  J Fanning  100    SP SP SP 
4 (14)    5-71842 Red Cadeaux 14  4 9-5  E A L Dunlop  R L Moore  98    SP SP SP 
5 (9)    0-40142 Woolfall Treasure 28   5 9-5 v  G L Moore  G Baker  98    SP SP SP 
6 (3)    0181-04 Braveheart Move (IRE) 23  4 9-3  Jonjo O'Neill  R Kingscote  96    SP SP SP 
7 (13)    1660-48 Moon Indigo 17   4 9-2  J Howard Johnson  P Mulrennan  95    SP SP SP 
8 (10)    38-7511 Kansai Spirit (IRE) 22  4 9-2  J H M Gosden  William Buick  95    SP SP SP 
9 (12)    667421 Rangefinder 14  6 9-2  Jane Chapple-Hyam  S W Kelly  95    SP SP SP 
10 (16)    0-83079 Macarthur 28  6 9-1  Jane Chapple-Hyam  Lewis Walsh (7)  94    SP SP SP 
11 (7)    7-51096 Perfect Shot (IRE) 15   4 9-0  J L Dunlop  Martin Dwyer  93    SP SP SP 
12 (19)    1-21210 Chilly Filly (IRE) 17   4 8-13  M Johnston  J Fanning  92    SP SP SP 
13 (2)    005653 Becausewecan (USA) 15  4 8-13  M Johnston  R Winston  92    SP SP SP 
14 (17)    1215-50 Recession Proof (FR) 91  4 8-12  J J Quinn  P Cosgrave  91    SP SP SP 
15 (15)    893014 Porgy 28  5 8-12  R A Fahey  J P Spencer  91    SP SP SP 
16 (6)    4-62514 Cotillion 28   4 8-11  Ian Williams  T Eaves  90    SP SP SP 
17 (8)    330390 Crackentorp 17  5 8-11  T D Easterby  G Gibbons  90    SP SP SP 
18 (11)    074400 Cosmic Sun 5  4 8-7 p1  R A Fahey   86    SP SP SP 
19 (1)    166782 Dazzling Light (UAE) 17   5 8-4  J S Goldie  C Catlin 

Thats the easy bit done. Now he has to win it!
Report Can't Catch Me September 2, 2010 2:26 PM BST
Top class work getting on at 14's lads.

Good luck.
Report El Apache September 2, 2010 5:59 PM BST
KS

Slashed into 11/2 with Sid James
Report dananders September 2, 2010 6:38 PM BST
agreed hills was very weak on red cadeaux last time. too busyt whipping it instead of pushing it and galvanising it. would have won with fallon or moore on board
Report ben10 September 2, 2010 7:20 PM BST
El Apache, can you keep counting down to 1.01 please Mischief
Report El Apache September 2, 2010 10:28 PM BST
Lets hope so.

Opposition looks very exposed , cant see many dangers.
Report Can't Catch Me September 3, 2010 10:26 AM BST
I'm liking the look of Ajaan. Think he could well give the weight away.
Report Pinza September 3, 2010 10:57 AM BST
No 3yo's in race this year (won 5 of 9 Borough races and would have been 6 with abandoned race 2008 - The Betchworth Kid)

Red Cadeaux is a bridesmaid. Would never get past Lady Eclair at Chester when suited by most conditions that day. They haven't found its ideal distance yet,if it has one, but it looks like 12f.

The clues to this race are in the distance and previous track runs although its pretty open this year.

An exceptional mare who only started racing this season at 4yrs of age.

Another mare who couldn't win as 2yo but has improved with distance this year.

Also a 4yo recent maiden winner and gone on to win again.
Report stevo1 September 3, 2010 11:18 AM BST
Good luck all on Kansai who are on,away for weekend with bambino,lets hope he does business!!
Report Facts September 3, 2010 3:41 PM BST
Fancy Lady Eclair can go in again.She's a real battler.
Report harchibald September 3, 2010 6:05 PM BST
I've backed Cotillion in this ...
Report booster September 3, 2010 9:33 PM BST
I've just gone through it and think Cotillion's the one. Good form on flat left handed tracks and well in compared to the rating of the horse who beat him in a Chepstow maiden and the horse who finished 4th beaten 2 lengths.
Report El Apache September 4, 2010 6:42 AM BST
KS

Further reduction to 9/2 @ Sid James.
Report sintonian September 4, 2010 9:39 AM BST
After a dry night, clerk of the course Kirkland Tellwright said: "We have a dry, warm day forecast. The going on the five and six furlong course is good to firm, while over a mile or greater the going is good, good to soft in places."
Report Can't Catch Me September 4, 2010 11:51 AM BST
Top tipping this. All it has to do is win now!

I find it almost impossible to believe there could be any soft in the going description the week we have had up here.
Report Prescription Drugs September 4, 2010 12:18 PM BST
just off to the track now, CCM, never assume anything where Kirkland is involved. To be honest I realy cant see KS getting beat unless he has turned the taps on overnight
Report cats11 September 4, 2010 12:36 PM BST
I missed all the tasty early prices on KS (I'll have to get up earlier atthe weekend) and he's not value at less than 5/1 so I've gone with Braveheart Move who is my second best and would be value at any price above 12/1 for me.
Report platinni September 4, 2010 3:10 PM BST
great thread lads

wd
Report El Apache September 4, 2010 3:10 PM BST
Bingo
Report Dark Destroyer September 4, 2010 3:13 PM BST
Get in Cool
Report ben10 September 4, 2010 3:14 PM BST
Well done all who were on Grin
Report jda September 4, 2010 3:17 PM BST
great call BEN10 x
Report platinni September 4, 2010 3:19 PM BST
nice 2nd post there ben

top stuff
Report Night Sight September 4, 2010 3:33 PM BST
Well done lads

I read this thread earlier in the week and backed this on Thursday on the strength of it @ ''only'' 6/1.LaughThose on @ 14's have done a great job here.

Thanks for putting me on this.

Btw Plat get yourself back here,this is the sort of tipping we're used to from you.[;)]
Report Stake & Chips September 4, 2010 4:00 PM BST
Well played lads Cool
Report Facts September 4, 2010 4:04 PM BST
well played
Report sintonian September 4, 2010 5:02 PM BST
wd been,el pache,reefer,steve,DD and anyone else on!

nice shout from Cats aswell with Braveheart Move. Had a sneaky suspicion that one would run well, dirrty jonjo.
Report wicket keeper September 4, 2010 5:15 PM BST
anyone know what the biggest price KS was on here today please
Report TD_Gunner September 4, 2010 5:23 PM BST
wd ben and winners, good stuff!!
Report Can't Catch Me September 5, 2010 8:29 AM BST
Brilliant stuff ben and others. Top class stuff.
Report carvillshill September 5, 2010 10:24 PM BST
Top spot lads very well doneGrin
Report stevo1 September 6, 2010 6:04 PM BST
Well done boys, paid for my w-end big time with missus and bambino who has more toys he can break.Hindsight is good but he was over-priced at 14s given make up of race.Lets hope we can pull another one out soon.
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