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By:
trev w
When: 07 Jun 10 21:14
sh it his gay nappy in a big field[smiley:crazy][:p]
By:
turnip turns
When: 07 Jun 10 21:27
Apart from the ones i've mentioned,and tbh agree about Oratory,Makaamen any one ?
By:
nibbledat
When: 07 Jun 10 22:05
mull of killough spaff
By:
Benjy
When: 07 Jun 10 22:17
Is right.
By:
downallstar
When: 08 Jun 10 12:09
Mabait, ante-post favourite for the Royal Hunt Cup, has been ruled out of the race by trainer Luca Cumani.

Beaten only a neck in the Victoria Cup at Ascot, it was thought he would return to Berkshire for the prestigious handicap.

However, after running with credit to finish third in the Diomed Stakes at Epsom last week, Cumani is planning to miss the annual cavalry charge.

"Mabait is in good form but he won't be going to Ascot," said the trainer.

"I've got nothing in mind for him yet.

"There's a Group race in Ireland at the Curragh in early July, a Group Three race and he might go for that."

While Mabait has been ruled out of the Royal meeting, Cumani has given the green light to both Purple Moon and recent Redcar winner Forte Dei Marmi.

"Purple Moon will definitely be going for the Gold Cup after his run at York and Forte Dei Marmi will run in the Wolferton after winning the Zetland Gold Cup," added Cumani.
By:
platinni
When: 08 Jun 10 12:13
fck sake didnt fancy him at all Cry
By:
Richie-O
When: 08 Jun 10 12:14
Marajaa seems to relish good ground, on a career high mark but looks in great shape.
Anyone else think Manassas is worth another go if it was good to firm?
By:
platinni
When: 08 Jun 10 15:26
any word from balding about riggins?
By:
Dark Destroyer
When: 08 Jun 10 15:30
Axiom or Acrostic ?
By:
Fastbearform
When: 08 Jun 10 19:57
FDM   Cry
By:
J0KER
When: 08 Jun 10 20:09
No way I would get involved with one of these Cumani hype machines like so many do.

Al Khaleej for me...I have bet this at 16/1 and a trixie with

Hawkeyethenoo 16/1 and High standing at 16/1
By:
1st time poster
When: 09 Jun 10 06:40
the over the cliff method, backed up by been well weighted in a race he,s ran well in,in the past and trained by a trainer with a good record in these cavalray charges, brings me down on DOCOFTHEBAY
By:
J D
When: 09 Jun 10 16:19
Platinni - Riggins runs as long as there is a bit of juice in the ground. Wont run if all good to firm.
By:
custardcream64
When: 09 Jun 10 16:53
Credit Swap appears to have been laid out for this .
Needs a fast run straight mile so the race should
be run to suit .
Just the 2 runs so far this season , a pipe-opener
followed by an outing over the wrong trip at Chester .
Will wait for the day of the race to see going & draw .
By:
dananders
When: 09 Jun 10 19:11
wannabe king?
By:
Bangers N Mash
When: 09 Jun 10 21:50
Last Three Minutes for me
By:
downallstar
When: 10 Jun 10 13:12
Dandy Boy   
Fareer   
Acrostic   
Riggins   
Bangalore Gold   
Forgotten Voice   
Tartan Gigha   
Docofthebay   
Al Khaleej   
Balcarce Nov   
Lovelace   
Tiger Reigns   
Tryst   
Invisible Man   
Marajaa   
Mia's Boy   
Mull Of Killough   
St Moritz   
Stoic   
Supaseus   
Suruor   
Huzzah   
Axiom   
Credit Swap   
Harald Bluetooth   
Makaamen   
Manassas   
Noble Citizen   
Oratory   
Swift Gift   
Vitznau   
Viva Vettori   
Al Muheer   
Proponent   
South Cape   
Truism   
December Draw   
Kay Gee Be   
Mahadee   
Shavansky   
Smokey Oakey   
Spectait   
Tartan Gunna   
Kavachi   
Tudor Key   
Wise Dennis   
Audemar   
Lucky Dance   
Moynahan   
Please Sing   
Webbow   
King Jock   
Satwa Laird   
Ballinteni   
Espero   
Officer In Command
By:
dananders
When: 10 Jun 10 14:15
no wannabe king?
By:
Benjy
When: 10 Jun 10 14:44
Last three minutes not there either is he?
By:
trev w
When: 10 Jun 10 21:54
has stoic been put up by a major tipping line today???

someone was waiting for confirmationShocked
By:
Dark Destroyer
When: 11 Jun 10 08:36
BOOKMAKERS are fearful of being hit for the second year running by a Jeremy Noseda-trained horse in the Royal Hunt Cup after support for the stable's lightly-raced handicap Stoic led to the layers taking early evasive action.

The Highclere-owned Stoic, not seen in public since failing to score in three starts at Meydan in February, will be Ryan Moore's mount in a contest last season captured by heavily-backed stablemate Forgotten Voice, who once again returns for Wednesday's handicap.

Paddy Power and William Hill went 14-1 (from 16 and 20) about Stoic, **** and Stan James 16-1 (from 20) and Coral, who were already bottom price at 12-1, now have him as their 10-1 third favourite.

Highclere spokesman Harry Herbert said: "Stoic has done really well since Dubai and this has always been the plan. Everything seems to have gone to plan and his recent work has been very good."
By:
nibbledat
When: 11 Jun 10 09:24
mug money
By:
downallstar
When: 11 Jun 10 10:00
agreed bookies gamble, queue lemmings.....
By:
Leo Bovary
When: 11 Jun 10 12:22
From the Cumani website:

Axiom faces a tough task in the Hunt Cup as he is 12lb higher now than he was last year when only sixth, so Acrostic probably has better possibilities in that race seeing as he at least is still a little bit unexposed, though all in all it’s difficult to be much more than hopeful
By:
Terry Venables
When: 11 Jun 10 12:42
Bookies gamble  = bullsh*t
By:
dananders
When: 12 Jun 10 09:22
if anything i think acrostic is thoroughly exposed
By:
Dark Destroyer
When: 12 Jun 10 10:41
Platwise selection posted on another thread.

(for anyone who hasn't already seen its Riggins btw)
By:
Extreme Conviction
When: 12 Jun 10 17:45
Done my brief stats look today on the top 40, the stats i used were;

Age 4-5
90-105 OR
1-3 runs season
2+ handicap runs
18 or less runs
Won over 8f+
Won a handicap
Place in Class2+ or won class 3 this season
Never run in a Group Race
Never won a class a
Best RPR this season
100+ RPR this season
20- 49 day break
Ran in Class2+ lto/ won class 3
Top 2 season
Won 11+ field
Placed 16+ field

9/10 winners scored 15+/18 on this - exception ceasare....

Those that do this year are;

Riggins, Dandy Boy, Bangalore Gold, Suruor, Tiger Reigns, Marajaa and December Draw

Bangalore Gold - Likely NR
Suruour - Small horse, trainer has stated before big field might not suit
Tiger Reigns - Has the class? Trainer stated he's not as good on a straight course
December Draw - Couldn't really have it on form....

Had my first bet on RIGGINS, also will on the day probably have a bet on MARAJAA, as an exposed 8yo doesn't seem like a royal hunt winner, but 3lbs better off with Dandy Boy over a furlong further i'd rather have a bet on him at 2.5x the price.

EC
By:
Hussard
When: 13 Jun 10 19:41
Last season Invisible Man was favourite for the Cambridgeshire looking like a group horse before an appalling effort at Goodwood during which he looked to have sustained an injury. Put away for the winter he's come back with two debatable attempts while Goldolphin were in rank form.

He likes straight tracks and I'm fairly convinced 20/1 is too big and that the money will come for him prior to the race.
By:
custardcream64
When: 13 Jun 10 20:03
I can't see Invisble Man winning . Copyright D. Thompson .
By:
bestmate
When: 14 Jun 10 09:00
shortlist

ACROSTIC
TRYST
Viva V
RIGGINS
By:
Man From Atlantis
When: 14 Jun 10 11:29
VERY short list

RIGGINS

Cool
By:
sintonian
When: 14 Jun 10 11:54
A charge developing on Riggins ..
By:
downallstar
When: 14 Jun 10 12:12
Tough draw for Riggens.
By:
J D
When: 14 Jun 10 13:03
I think draw is fine for Riggins in 22 - high supposed to be better and most of fancied runners that side - should be able to get cover, before sweeping to the front 1 out to score by 3! - Come on the Riggins!
By:
platinni
When: 14 Jun 10 15:12
all over riggins too EC

gl
By:
trev w
When: 14 Jun 10 16:06
24th may 20.49

riggins & tryst of interest atmCool

not much changed here...did have a bito 20s stoic when the gamble got underway...

aint the far side getting a better reading re the ground..

although i cant believe i'm even talking about comments regarding ascot going readingsPlain
By:
Terry Venables
When: 14 Jun 10 16:16
Posted on other side:
Riggins
Tryst
Mias

  1 other
By:
sintonian
When: 14 Jun 10 16:26
still the same bet for me but Paul Cole in poor form. His horses are very in and out.
By:
Deep Impact
When: 14 Jun 10 16:56
Shortlist:

Dandy Boy
Tiger Reigns
Tryst
Moynahan
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