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Typical 2000 Guineas Winner - Early or Late Foal?
Typical 2000 Guineas Winner - Early or Late Foal?
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Rodrigo de Triano won the 2000 Guineas in 1992, he was foaled on the 27th of May, so it is not impossible for a May foal to win the Guineas just unlikely.
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Camelot cruises home for the system ;)
French Fifteen would have qualified too... Bad Guineas though... Onwards, here's this year: Dawn Approach: 23rd April   Cristoforo Colombo: 9th March Toronado: 20th Feb Mars: 24th Feb Moohaajim: 28th Feb Olympic Glory: 27th March George Vancouver: 17th March Ghurair: 3rd Feb Style Vendome: 25th Feb Van Der Neer 1st March Tawhid: 26th Feb Dundonnell: 30th Jan Havana Gold: 13rd April Steeler: 12th March Lines of Battle: 20th March Mutin: 16th March So yeah, er... Lay the favourite!  |
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I was at Newmarket when Rodrigo won his Guineas,and my birthday is May 27th.Therefore i backed Alnasr Alwasheek(Stoute's i think)despite all my mates saying you must back Rodrigo.
I will get over it one day,the same way i will get over Garrison Savannah in the National and Direct Route getting done by Edredon in the QM. I hope that day comes soon. |
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13th May 2013
Lay of the year gll all |
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late born foals grow more quickly. that isn't a good thing because rapid growth leads to more developmental problems - but when they come out straight and stay that way then you can dismiss the foaling date completely.
anyone who can say Air Force Blue is a lay for some reason due to his foaling date, after witnessing what he's done in the last three Group1s, has absolutely no clue about equine physiology, nevermind statistical inference. |
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I agree. Perhaps this stat has some relevance but it depends on the individual horse.
Air force blue, if he fails to win the guineas won't be because of maturity. When he ran in the coventry, he was a big baby. He's become a man since then, and if anything he'll improve more over the winter. So in his case if anything, it's in his favour that he's a late foal. More improvement to come. It's just the price that is cuckoo, 6-4. |
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ffs 11 Oct 15 05:23 Joined: 27 Oct 07 | Topic/replies: 699 | Blogger: ffs's blog late born foals grow more quickly. that isn't a good thing because rapid growth leads to more developmental problems - but when they come out straight and stay that way then you can dismiss the foaling date completely. anyone who can say Air Force Blue is a lay for some reason due to his foaling date, after witnessing what he's done in the last three Group1s, has absolutely no clue about equine physiology, nevermind statistical inference. statistical inference - big words for a brainless mug |
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lewisham ranger 12 Oct 15 12:10 Joined: 08 Aug 02 | Topic/replies: 968 | Blogger: lewisham ranger's blog I agree. Perhaps this stat has some relevance but it depends on the individual horse. Air force blue, if he fails to win the guineas won't be because of maturity. When he ran in the coventry, he was a big baby. He's become a man since then, and if anything he'll improve more over the winter. So in his case if anything, it's in his favour that he's a late foal. More improvement to come. It's just the price that is cuckoo, 6-4. another moron  |
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only one Jan foal in the race
shat in |
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But, but, but ...
... it was its draw in stall one that won it for him.  |
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took me 30 seconds to search for it
you lose by any chance |
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I said 6-4 was a shocking price.
Which part of my post makes me a moron you ****? |
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So in his case if anything, it's in his favour that he's a late foal.
every piece of soundly researched opinion on here says the complete opposite, hence you are either uneducated or a moron, i'll guess the latter and a loser to boot. |
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You've long been one of the nastier posters on the forum, an embittered bully to boot
Given he beat the second last year hands down when using your logic he should have been immature, and has been beaten out of sight this time around, anyone with half a braincell (which patently you lack) could work out that his defeat wasn't down to being a late foal. What an absolute retard you truly are. |
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yep a retard that managed to back winners at 8/1, 7/1 and 6/1 in the same race!
how did you do? |
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I actually like you Charlton and your contribution to the forum, it's great to have such a complete imbecile to laugh at.
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ffs 30 Apr 16 17:24 Joined: 27 Oct 07 | Topic/replies: 703 | Blogger: ffs's blog Apr 30, 2016 -- 5:05PM, Charlton2005 wrote: took me 30 seconds to search for ityou lose by any chance so you spent another 30 seconds just to show how little you have to do .. funny that .. I'd say go get a life but I imagine everyone who knows you says that constantly, so I'll refrain. i took the extra 30 seconds in order to demonstrate to the rest of the forum who to trust, and more importantly, who not to. |
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Jesus F Christ -- Charlton ... did you back a winner !!?? , of a horse-race ??? ... OMFG I never heard of such a thing, what are your secrets
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Charlton is just a nasty embittered troll, should have chucked off the forum years ago, if they actually had standards.
Sad loser with zero mates I expect and a chip on his shoulder the size of the rowley mile. Jog on little man. |
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lewisham ranger 30 Apr 16 17:21 Joined: 08 Aug 02 | Topic/replies: 970 | Blogger: lewisham ranger's blog
You've long been one of the nastier posters on the forum, an embittered bully to boot if you read the thread in order you'll that my comment was bland and not aimed at anyone. ffs then comes on and implied that i was clueless. so who is the bully? |
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Charlton2005 30 Apr 16 17:25 Joined: 25 Aug 05 | Topic/replies: 4,622 | Blogger: Charlton2005's blog
yep a retard that managed to back winners at 8/1, 7/1 and 6/1 in the same race! how did you do? |
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You called me a moron, for no particular reason other than you could, (even though I already stated I thought the fav was a terrible price)
but hardly surprising coming from you, you've always been a nasty piece of work. |
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Lewisham, you wrote that you agreed with the person that had called me clueless and then followed that up with a comment that evidenced yourself as clueless? what other deduction can i make?
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Oh so your ego is so big, that you can't take criticism? Yeah sounds about right
Bit insecure perhaps |
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please, you're mixing things up here, the bottom line is, i point these things out so that the next time you make a comment people might think twice as to it's validity. the argument you are now making is related to my point that i was not the one that began the unpleasantness.
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and that's got nothing at all to do with Charlton, but this accurate comment:
"I'd say if you called Coolmore today wanting to book one of their top stallions for next March or April you'd be politely turned down, because they'll be fully booked by their preferred breeders......but July/ August and they'll be much more accomodating. The breeders certainly think that late foals at at a disadvantage in their classic year, hence the prevelance of foals born in late Jan, through Feb and into early March fetching the heftiest prices at the sales." |
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well ... accurate in the first part at least ... access to sires is v competitive early on.
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But then you have from year to year,
early Spring / late Spring, good Summer / bad Summer ... that has a huge effect on how a foal will do, e.g. a late foal after a v good Spring will likely be v good as the mare will have done well, and could be at an advantage to an early born foal in fact ... there's a lot of variance, the final few weeks of a mare grazing good grass with the right nutrients imparts a huge amount to a foal in utero rather than at hand. |
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this charlton 2005 numpty has just latched on to an argument someone has made (might be a legitimate one, who knows)
and tried to make it his own. guy hasn't got the intelligence to create his own ideas about the game then claims he backed three winners in the same race- (if that's even possible) don't recall him putting that up before the race, so one for the aftertiming thread! |
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Lewisham, I think Charlton is a wind-up merchant, not to be taken too seriously or you play his game,
Thanks to Kincsem for the amazing comment above :D |
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I was all over AFB....I should really stick to my guns
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