The criticism around Epsom has nothing to do with Montjeu, it is to do with his stride.

Great, i am on Jan Vermeer .

Thanks, they will probably send him for the French version knowing my luck :p

What about Grp 1 winners over 1m2f ? ( Are there any ) ?

Got plenty of Grp 1 winners over 1 mile, but they are all 2yos.

Authorized should have won 2 group 1's over 1m 2f if Frankie would have walked the course at Sandown for The Eclipse like Ryan Moore didbefore winning on Notnowcato

I have a lot of respect for Nick Mordin's reports, but on the question of St Nicholas Abbey (written in his October 2009 report, quoted above) I believe he was fundamentally mistaken. For a start, he was adamant that SNA would not run in the Guineas. We now know that the horse is being aimed at the Guineas and that at this stage there is a good likelihood that he will turn up at Newmarket on 1 May with a favourite's chance. Secondly, it's no secret that after his Beresford Stakes win SNA was being touted by his connections as a Derby prospect - the Derrinstown Stud Derby Trial was mentioned as a likely early target this season. There was certainly no talk of the Guineas at that stage. But his performance in the Racing Post Trophy changed everything. He showed such impressive speed and acceleration at Doncaster that Aidan knew he had a potential Guineas/Derby winner on his hands.

It doesn't surprise me, looking at his pedigree, that SNA has the speed to win a Guineas: after all, his dam (who never raced) was bred to be a smart miler, and although Montjeu does have an exceptional record with top-class middle distance performers he does also get winners over all sorts of distances. In fact, there must be a slight doubt whether SNA will get the full Derby trip (especially at the Curragh). His full sister stayed 10f but not 12f. I don't rule out the possibility that SNA may get beaten in the Guineas by a horse with greater speed and an even better turn of foot, but at this stage he appears to be much the likeliest winner. As far as the Derby is concerned, I saw nothing at Doncaster to suggest that he would have problems at Epsom. Really firm ground could be a problem, and he may not last out the final two furlongs, but I don't see why he shouldn't handle the track.

oh mich you seem to know little about aiden & his entry approach.

I know money is no object and they just cover all bases, I was being flippant.

Regardless of what people say, if he runs at Newmarket he will not win.

*tell*

Then if I were you id change my bet,open your eyes and ears,this year will be a great one.

Sorry no,not one of the early sorts.

Corre Caminos won 2006 Prix Ganay Longchamp 1m 2f 110yds. Hurricane Run won 2006 Tattersalls Gold Cup Curragh 1m 2f 110yds. Both sons of Montjeu.

im with you charlton, wont win guineas

Good stuff EJ.

;)

You make a good case Mich but I think I'll stick with my plan.

Im a SNA doubter too.

Simply cant have him at the current prices. Montjeu simply does not have a good enough record with milers at 3yo to be backing a 9/4-2/1 shot in the first Classic of the season.

Incidentally he also has a terrible strike rate with his runners at Newmarket...dunno why but i'll throw that into the pot too :)

5/1 + maybe, 8/1 (ala Sea the Stars) definitely, 9/4-2/1 no thank you.

Charlton earlier in thread it was said Montjeu had several Group 1 winners over 8f and 12 f, but only had Authroised as a Group 1 winner at 10f, but the other two both won over 10f, or to be precise 22 yards further than Authroized.

Elis they tend to send Derby 2nd /3rd strings for the Dante certainly not their main hope as far as I can recall.
With regards to the earlier poster re Midas Touch he worked after racing @ the Curragh in the
St Nicholas Abbey group & travelled really well on the outside(orange cap) finishing upsides Fame & Glory & Age Of Aquarius