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17 Nov 23
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Got to say it's an absolute scandal that Newcastle is licenced by the GBGB. It has to be hands down the most corrupt track in the UK . Nobody seems to care that dogs lose/improve ten lengths from one run to the next. Probably only three or four honest trainers. Several trainers attached to the the track should be sacked immediately , at least half a dozen should be put on a first and final warning and undoubtedly the RM should be given his marching orders.
This whole thing accelerated when a trainer came in a few years ago and was given carte blanche. Fifteen jobs later with no recourse and nearly all the rest of trainers have said 'well if nothing happens to him why should anything happen to us'. All downhill from there
In well over forty years involved in greyhound racing I've never seen anything remotely like this circus
Of course it's all about 'The Media Rights' as it certainly isn't about animal welfare!
This whole thing accelerated when a trainer came in a few years ago and was given carte blanche. Fifteen jobs later with no recourse and nearly all the rest of trainers have said 'well if nothing happens to him why should anything happen to us'. All downhill from there
In well over forty years involved in greyhound racing I've never seen anything remotely like this circus
Of course it's all about 'The Media Rights' as it certainly isn't about animal welfare!
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Nice to see the sonic youngsters get the Christmas money for connections this week
15/11 Sonic Mercury A8 always led Won 4 1/4 lengths 29.47 two previous runs 8/11 Sonic Mercury A8 clear run 2nd 29.85 2/11 Sonic Mercury A8 clear run 6th 30.72 17/11 Sonic Moon HC always led WON 8 1/4 lengths 29.36 actual time given 29.66 but we all know you deduct 30 spots in a handicap. Time announced after an hour... looked faster... two previous runs 09/11 Sonic Moon A8 sl hpd 4 2nd 29.96 03/11 Sonic Moon A8 WON 30.05 17/11 Sonic Jupiter A8 always led WON 4 1/2 lengths 29.73 two previous runs 10/11 Sonic Jupiter A8 every chance 3rd 30.00 03/11 Sonic Jupiter Retrial sl crd 1st 3rd 30.47 Is there a pattern here? A cynic might suggest they've been well placed to win but of course that would be cynical wouldn't it. |
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anyone could tell those pups where pacy but they are also dodgers,they just trapped clear and got on with it,put a dog in front of them and they hang the race up.
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You aren't seriously suggesting that these three very heavily bet sonic dogs this week was honest training. Spare me garry I have an IQ in double figures. The last time Tighe was allowed three runners in the same race only one of them completed the course such was the disgraceful way they were KO'd. I note the track have never allowed that to occur again. The only action they have ever taken against him
Gartcloss Spence - now there's the King of dodgers at the track |
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young pups going straight on the bunny are going to find time,not saying the trainers a saint but i think they have just improved for getting on the bunny,gatrcloss spence a forecast players dream.
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They are the same litter ...King Elvis/Sonic Spur. They are Sept 2021 . I called them youngsters but they certainly aren't pups. None of what you say stacks up garry. Their runs and trials aren't littered with short distance wins or defeats or awkward as would be the norm for dodgers. Just three (MORE) jobs this week pure and simple
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trust me i do this every day.they are all dodgers,the sonic jupiter has a waited comment in trials,sonic moon has slowed a few races when hitting the front already.sonic mercury the exact same
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Apologies garry but I only trust what my eyes/knowledge tells me
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If you've been galloped up and down a field or in the jacuzzi all morning (as seems to be popular with a few) then you are bound to get tired in the latter stages of a race
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sunders 11.36
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Newcastle Tuesday 21st November
9.11 race Trap 1 Ballymac Fearne huge drifter on betfair and you guessed how it was going to run prior to the race. Started last , never got touched throughout the race finished last. And all because it was bet in the afternoon by some poor buggar that fancied it so they knew they would get easy money laying it come the race. |
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greyhound racing is more crooked then spaghetti junction
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Tonight's Newcastle 7.26 should be entertaining.
Sonic Moon getting a six yard pull with Links Fusilier. Answers on a postcard |
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What will John Gotti do
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i would expect sonic moon to ruin 2 again here,2 led it on 9th nov when sonic moon got to the front and hung the race up for darbys fame,
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Sonic moon missed the break badly tonight then ran a monster race to win. You say you do this all the time garry but what you forget is that sonic moon wouldn't have tried on the 9th November so the run doesn't count for anything. Clean runs bring a dog on as has been proven on many occasions from this trainer and again tonight. Such a shame as this man clearly knows his onions. Could be a top trainer if he was straight
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One not off and mercury an sp job. This guy is good
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where theres money involved blah blah...hardly a shock.
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Strange entries on card saturday afternoon.Dogs reappearing after long breaks (reserves).No marks on cards for 3-4 months and going from A4 to A8 after break, and bolting in. Looks like they are short of dogs as Sunderland form cropping up . Less racing and regular track form is essential for punters.
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been a few IT races with sunders lately
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RP isn't showing them but trials were on the official card for midtown hope etc
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Newcastle are grossly short of dogs to fulfil their obligation . That's a small part of the reason that absolutely anything goes at the track and no trainer has been sacked .If only Entain knew what they were getting themselves into considering going to bed with this shower.
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What happened to that commentator up there ?
Is he still about ? He was great |
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Yes Irish, he certainly was.
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Andrew Dalby?
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https://www.chroniclelive.co.uk/news/north-east-news/hammer-attack-victim-needed-stitches-20-1450591
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fook me if it was that dalby bloke it turned out he was a nonce caught in a sting and rightly given plenty of porridge....
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I always thought the commentators name was Mark.
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Mark Cranston used to commentate, mostly at Sunderland, but did a stint at Brough.
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Thanks, goddess.
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Nice job yesterday from William Finley with the PUP
15/12 Itsallluckbill MISSED BREAK then blew them away winning over eight lengths in 29.45 30/11 best qualifying trial and most recent run 30.12 Off for two weeks, probably private trial then easy money. They got fortunate he missed the break badly otherwise he'd have won the length of the straight. Two more pups on today for Finley . Same age but only one(Tee Tee Jet-the litter brother to the above). Be interesting to map the progress. Don't tell me Finlay thinks he's going to put as many by as the Teflon Don (Tighe). |
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Fair play to W Finley. Both pups ran well in the final race with Tee Tee Jet winning .
Newcastle management really mucked up not sacking Tighe when they should have as it's ruined what used to be a terrific track up there. |
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Newcastle | HP | 640m 1st £175 | Others £55 Race Total £450 Watch all Premier Greyhound Racing on Sky Sports Racing Red Button Pos,Trap Greyhound Trainer Comment SP Time (S) Time (Distance) Add to Kennel 1st Ballygibbon Bus P Rutherford FcdTCk5,LedRunIn 5/4F R3 40.70 (1) Nov-2020 | 27.5 | b - bk | Confident Rankin - Clonbrien Lucky 2nd Lightfoot Aoife C J Lister LedToRunIn 8/1 R7 40.78 (1) Jan-2020 | 24.6 | b - bk | Quietly - Racenight Annie 3rd Blackhouse Emily S Ray EveryChance 3/1 R5 40.88 (1 1/4) Aug-2021 | 29.2 | b - bk | Hiya Butt - Blackhouse Ash 4th Crooks Mojito S Caile Crowded2,RanOnLate 3/1 Scr 41.00 (1 1/2) Dec-2020 | 27.4 | b - f | Pat C Sabbath - Highview Jayne 5th Foyle Bridge T G Edgar SAw,BumpedWide2 10/1 R3 41.80 (10) Sep-2020 | 36.4 | d - be | Ballymac Best - Cats Belle 6th Adelante Steel P Rutherford SAw,Crowded1&2 7/1 R7 42.06 (3 1/4) |
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Adelante Steel beaten 17 (yes SEVENTEEN lengths) perhaps lost one length in running -No RETRIAL - No finished lame comment - trainer P Rutherford wins race with other runner which had an obvious chance as Ballygibbon Bus was well handicapped today.
Talk about making sure your other one doesn't win it when you are backing one. Just typifies everything about the track and management. It was even beaten three lengths by the clear and obviously lame Foyle Bridge. A dreadful advert for greyhound racing |
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Merry Christmas Paul Singlewood... must have got good money out of that one
4.43 Newcastle Minnies Torov an absolutely diabolical run . Beaten 10-15 lengths (didn't even lose a length in running)after being well bet into 6/4 in the morning drifted to 5/2 on here. Obviously not the kennel money just some poor punter betting a no good one again. That dog will be sore in the morning Anything goes at the circus You've got to laugh . I think two trainers have left recently Neil Black and Patrick Kennedy. Both good quality solid straight trainers . You couldn't make this up if you tried |
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ps IF it finished lame I'll retract the above comment
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Minies Torov didn't finish lame . Beaten 12 1/2 lengths untouched . Kindest thing to do would be to close that track down
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Plenty winning "good things" this morning
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Newcastle A6 | 480 | - 04.69 1 - Highview Blend LedTo4, LedRunIn 29.56 29.3 7/2 29.56 29/12/23 Newcastle A6 | 480 | -10 04.76 5 8 1/2 Coles Buddy Crd2, BBaulked3 29.95 29.2 4/1 30.52 22/12/23 Newcastle A5 | 480 | -10 04.78 6 7 Westforth Athena MidTRls, BCrd1&2 29.66 29.3 12/1 30.12 15/12/23 Newcastle A5 | 480 | -10 04.75 6 16 Tarryburn Onyx StruckInto2 29.21 28.9 9/2 30.39 06/12/23 Newcastle A5 | 480 | -30 04.74 6 7 1/2 Wraysbury Band FcdTCk&Blk2 29.72 28.9 6/1 30.03 29/11/23 Newcastle A5 | 480 | 10 04.85 6 13 3/4 Regans Rocket SAw, FcdTCk2, Bmp 3/4 29.30 29.1 2/1F 30.51 |
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You make your own mind up everybody?
Above is the recent form of SCOTCH STORM trained by HARRY BURTON with finishing times. Number two at the track only behind the untouchable Teflon Tighe. First try today and obviously an SP job as they couldn't have got their money on otherwise Prior to today it's five most recent runs resulted in four last places and a fifth beaten cumulatively fifty three lengths... yes an average of over ten lengths each race. Makes all today. That would have been a red light at any independent I ever knew... and this is supposed to be under the rules of racing! Does anybody know of a track/management in the UK that would have allowed this to occur? I certainly don't. |