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By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 06 May 13 23:34
Fraser thought the same but he still made the semi final.

He was actually one of the first dogs i looked at backing at the backend of last year, think he was 66s or 50s but i missed the price luckily so left him alone
By:
irishone
When: 06 May 13 23:35
The counts don't want an Irish winner anyway lads, the rules they play under are severely questionable, a trainer was done at Wimbledon couple of months ago after the oaks for administering a pain killer which may have "adversely affected the welfare of the greyhound". How can that be ?
Cost him over a monkey but cost future Derby's some of the best dogs from these parts. They admit that "GBGB Rules of Racing impose strict liability on the trainer" but at the same time go easy on persistent reoffenders within their sures.
By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 06 May 13 23:44
i think we will have a decent chance this year.

Kereight King
Isabels Boy [although not sure we can claim him now]
Ballyhill Sub
Kisses For Cloda
Priceless Sky
Money Talks

then others that may go

Ballymac Vic
Farloe Calvin
Exocet
Homeless Boy
Judicial Ruling

then if McKenna or Holland goes they'd have some right good chances too
By:
lanza
When: 06 May 13 23:53
what would you give for those 11+ eske to be the 2 semi's pf?

..ireland still wouldnt have the winner tho. haha Wink
By:
lanza
When: 06 May 13 23:56
i think its about time we have my favourite thread of the year now...

''derby non-runners''

so i can feel uneasy every morning.
By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 06 May 13 23:58
Laugh every time you see the thread back at the top ya cack yourself
By:
lanza
When: 07 May 13 00:00
Laugh glad its not just me then.  Laugh
By:
CastnoStones
When: 07 May 13 00:03
Irish, a pain killer will cause a dog to run without feeling an injury and is therefore liable to do itself even more harm as it doesn't know the differnce and can't make a choice like a human can - think Richie Dunne having a steroid injection before the Bulgaria game  afew years ago. Personally I think the rules could be relaxed and such meds used under veterinary supervision ie a certified reason, a date (eg it was given 3 days ago and not having any effect now)  and minimal chance of exacerbating an exisitng injury.

However there is a problem with this too. It could be used to stop a dog. Suppose a dog is on a painkiller for a low grade  persistent niggle. No welfare issues etc. Dog runs well when on the meds. This dog can be 'stopped' by WITHDRAWING  the medication. And you can't take the trainer up for not 'doping' his dog then, can you?
By:
woodmanchester
When: 07 May 13 00:34
Irish's point is he cant be nice no matter what he promises. That post about Alien Planet was months ago. Back to block. Beware, he could turn and stalk anyone, at will!
By:
irishone
When: 07 May 13 07:22
Woody grow up, coming on here hyping up dogs or kennels when you seriously have no clue what is going on,
is in no way helpful is it ?

CNS, most of the medication issues revolve around the vet giving the wrong info. They don't do it intentionally,  but  because it depends on the type of injury, weight , fitness and cell make up of the dog its effect is inconsistent as you rightly say. In the case I mentioned that was exactly the problem, you wouldn't mind if the trainer had history, or he hadn't travelled a thousand miles round trip, he got fined 600 when a persistent reoffender got done a grand.
By:
sliproad
When: 07 May 13 08:55
Exocet is going. He will be trialing around twice this week
By:
lanza
When: 07 May 13 11:01
Irish Derby winning trainer Pat Curtin will be travelling to England today to launch his challenge for the 2013 William Hill English Derby.

Curtin is planning to give his four runners their first look at Wimbledon tomorrow and will stay over to give them another trial on Saturday. It will then be back home to put the finishing touches to the Derby preparation.

His number one hope is Kereight King and he is backed up by last year’s quarter finalist Shelbourne Geoff, 2012 Produce Stakes winner Power Of God and recent acquisition Whizzing Around which only joined him after winning at Shelbourne on Saturday night.

Said Curtin yesterday: “Kereight King has settled in very nicely. He had his tonsils removed but is in very good form again. We gave him just one sprint run but he has been swimming a fair bit and looks very well. I am happy with him. The other dogs are all capable of running well at Wimbledon”.
By:
lanza
When: 07 May 13 11:02
Liam Dowling confirmed yesterday that his star tracker Ballymac Vic will be heading for England next week to have his first trial around Wimbledon in advance of the English Derby.

Said Liam, “we had a little problem with him. He got a cut on his shoulder from a bit of wire and it took us a while to get to the bottom of it. But it has come right and we gave him a gallop last Wednesday. We’ll give him a few more gallops this week and then head for England next week.

“We’ll see how he handles the track before we make any more plans but the idea would be to give him a couple of trials around Wimbledon to have him ready for the Derby”.
By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 07 May 13 15:49
http://cdn-16.create.net/sitefiles/16/7/0/167057/08_05_2013_trials.pdf


good trial session tomorrow
By:
lanza
When: 07 May 13 16:28
close eyes number 25. Sad
By:
Zach_Thomas54
When: 07 May 13 18:14
I think Lanza I took a lot of your money on JR, so I must be honest I am hoping for 28:75 or better. I think he will get faster with every trial and race. On the other hand it looks like I have got burnt with Razldazl Rioga... I had that for just shy of 5 figures :(
By:
lanza
When: 07 May 13 18:59
yeah, should get quicker, im hoping for a 29.50 then.  lol. A 28:16 and im spewing.  lol.
By:
irishone
When: 07 May 13 19:57
is salthill dazzler curtin's as well ?
By:
Huggy
When: 07 May 13 21:39
How many live ones has Draper got in the mix
By:
DANNY - trader
When: 07 May 13 22:16
Anyone know if any bookies have a price for draper to win the derby? Cheers
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 07 May 13 22:40
Team draper
I'd lay 7/2 if I was
A bookie
don't think its right thou can't have them as derby winners!
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 07 May 13 22:45
7/2 might be a bit big thou ! Eske could be 9/4 by the 3rd round!
By:
irishone
When: 07 May 13 23:37
don't think I would want my best dogs winning everything six weeks before the quarter finals of the derby !
By:
Zach_Thomas54
When: 07 May 13 23:53
2 weeks ago Hills were 4/1... Not sure if they are now. I found this on OC
By:
DANNY - trader
When: 08 May 13 09:44
Cheers
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 08 May 13 12:41
28.38 o' Donovan Lughill George
28.75 stonepark
By:
johnnyapples
When: 08 May 13 13:00
Wimbledon 480 trials best Laughil George 2836, JT Hellcat 2851, Exocet 2865, Tulligoline 2865, Stonepark Crash 2875, Judicial Ruling 2882

Taken from Steve Nash tweet
By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 08 May 13 14:03
Kerreight King 15.96 over 273m Bubbly Phoenix 15.91. Other Curtin dogs Power of God 16.44 Whizzing Around 16.32

Bubbly Phoenix - whooooooooooooosh
By:
lanza
When: 08 May 13 14:12
nice that.  wondered why my 16's went king. Bubbly still 40's on here.
By:
lanza
When: 08 May 13 14:14
whats geoff done?  laid 7 quid at 1000.   amazed he said he was coming over.  Just taken some 150 too.
By:
lanza
When: 08 May 13 14:15
the 40's bubbly didnt last long.
By:
lanza
When: 08 May 13 14:21
that semi final pf...Sad  and the run final night. Sad
By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 08 May 13 14:24
Cry cheers mate, really needed reminding
By:
lanza
When: 08 May 13 14:27
what did you top up on at with bubbly?
By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 08 May 13 14:29
just had my first bets @ 40s there with billies and crooks
By:
lanza
When: 08 May 13 14:34
took some 42 on here and a ton with hills, any news on isabels boy?
By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 08 May 13 14:35
16.08 thought he may have gone a bit quicker but not disappointed, would just love to see how he is running and if his problems are gone
By:
lanza
When: 08 May 13 14:40
ok thanks
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 08 May 13 14:45
Great run from bubbly
But we know he's wristie
go any time !!! I know first hand
Breaks your heart that wrist problem owner !
By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 08 May 13 15:05
it's a stunning run by Kereight King too on his first look, had his tonsils removed when they got him too
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