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zolaisgod
11 Oct 12 10:32
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jaytee hellcat 656 newcastle 8/1 you gotta be jokin !!!!!!!!!

ran a blinder in the heats from a draw it doesnt want, much better from the middle. 2 lacks early and is rails 1 isnt the class. 5 doesnt trap but has blinding early and can hold 6 up who was middle/rails at the first bend on saturday. 4 will hold its line and i expect 3 to be in front by the first bend and none of these will back run it 3/1 chance imo

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By:
Sgt. Sunshine
When: 11 Oct 12 10:49
Agree. FWIW my system has it down as fav. Lads have cut to 7/1. GL.
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 11 Oct 12 12:08
i thought he go well tonight auto clear red and blue
By:
Czechbet
When: 11 Oct 12 12:21
only prob the potential weather, gl zola
By:
patrick starr
When: 11 Oct 12 12:48
im sure god gave us the same brain zola(some would say i must be sharing a fker tho tbh).

SCary how often i agree with your thinking!
By:
patrick starr
When: 11 Oct 12 12:50
oh and just for the record,i think we are 0/10 when we agree! lol Sad
By:
zolaisgod
When: 11 Oct 12 12:54
yes that is always a worry to be fair czech. lol ps normally they are always big prices as well !! thats hope we can go 1/11 Wink
By:
irishone
When: 11 Oct 12 16:39
sorry a bit dyslexic here... thought thread was MASSIVE R1CE PRICK Laugh
By:
track record
When: 11 Oct 12 16:45
Laugh
just what i thought at firstLaugh
By:
gwladys street
When: 11 Oct 12 17:34
Agree, ran very well last week. Should lead down the middle and hold 5/6 early.                                                                                                           Good luck all
By:
noflapleft
When: 11 Oct 12 18:31
Just lump on west mead shaw 5:6 looks value
By:
FATTIEWHITEYSLOVEADRINK
When: 11 Oct 12 18:57
Well done winners hellcat done the biz o
By:
irishone
When: 11 Oct 12 18:57
GREAT SHOUT
By:
gwladys street
When: 11 Oct 12 18:58
Well done all, was surprised to see the odds this morning to be honest.
By:
patrick starr
When: 11 Oct 12 18:58
well done lads,great work,hi fives! Happy
By:
noflapleft
When: 11 Oct 12 19:03
Top shot well done all
By:
tobe
When: 11 Oct 12 19:04
what time is race please? off to shop to get on
By:
zolaisgod
When: 11 Oct 12 19:06
oi oi jaytee turn left lol well done ps job done
By:
patrick starr
When: 11 Oct 12 19:07
lol tobe,i can see where 4 days leaves you short of time mate Wink
By:
Czechbet
When: 11 Oct 12 19:07
wd lads good work, big price yankee off and running Excited
By:
Sgt. Sunshine
When: 11 Oct 12 19:17
WD zola Happy
By:
tobe
When: 11 Oct 12 19:17
fck me look at the emoticons coming out like confetti
happy days all round, you grumbling old whiners
By:
patrick starr
When: 11 Oct 12 19:24
somebody throw tobe a bone ffs
By:
patrick starr
When: 11 Oct 12 19:25
there'll be other days tobe,just keep an eye on the forum mate Laugh
By:
irishone
When: 11 Oct 12 19:38
Laugh
By:
WestWayStar
When: 11 Oct 12 20:45
Wd op,hope u made plenty,
By:
track record
When: 11 Oct 12 22:29
vwd  zola  /  patrick  /  all backers
By:
woodmanchester
When: 12 Oct 12 02:34
Excellent shout Zola but still hopeful of Killieford Deal in final
By:
safari guide
When: 12 Oct 12 10:06
Fantastic tipping Zola, nice that after placing your bet you also helped the little people as we were christened by Kinky all those years ago.

Woody, please use this thread as the perfect example of a judge getting value. This is the practice of the theory I was trying to explain. In this case the dog won but the returning SP of 3/1 over the early price of 8/1 and slightly lower, meant it would still have been value if chinned.

I advised you to look for a big price in a heat and on this occassion someone else did the hardest work of finding the golden nugget. Dont compare your selection to Zolas for the final, take this opportunity as one of the steps in learning how to bet value.
By:
woodmanchester
When: 12 Oct 12 10:15
Okay Safari. Dont always work though but nice when it does Wink
By:
irishone
When: 12 Oct 12 10:16
.... FFS woody ... you don't even listen to the voice of reason Cry
By:
woodmanchester
When: 12 Oct 12 10:30
...and i havent tried reasoning with you? Okay, so we're saying get greater odds than sp and we have value, coz that's what this is. What about my 33/1 Skate On in the Scurry when it's going to be about 9/2 in the final? Of course, everyone will say the 33/1 wasnt value!
By:
irishone
When: 12 Oct 12 10:31
Half the battle is getting the value woody
By:
woodmanchester
When: 12 Oct 12 10:33
...and i havent tried reasoning with you? Okay, so we're saying get greater odds than sp and we have value, coz that's what this is. What about my 33/1 Skate On in the Scurry when it's going to be about 9/2 in the final? Of course, everyone will say the 33/1 wasnt value!
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p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 12 Oct 12 10:40
Just because the dog somebody backs returns shorter, even considerably shorter does not automatically mean the price they bet the dog at was value. [not implying this case was one of those instances]


Well done Zola, PS, GS and any other backers i've missed out.
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p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 12 Oct 12 10:43
And just because you back a dog at 33/1 ante post and it it 9/2 to win the final does not automatically mean the 33/1 was value.

How about i back a certain dog for next years Derby at 5/2, it goes off 1/2 fav for next years final, does that mean the 5/2 was value?? Of course it doesn't, it means i'm a raving lunatic who should not be let out of the house with money in my pocket!!
By:
woodmanchester
When: 12 Oct 12 10:45
Irish, with respect, i've had value.

About 10/1 Boher Paddy and 20/1 Slick Santiago in same race Steel City Cup about 11/10 and 11/8 chances in final.

About 9/2 Bowtime Joey, 10/1 Meadow Bank Owl and 20/1 about 7/4, 9/4 and 7/2 chances in same race 3 Steps

and

4/1 Farloe Warhawk and 7/2 Taylors Sky, about evens and 3/1 chances in same race Henlow Derby just very few examples of getting much better odds than actual chances, all beaten.

No such thing as a certainty, at any price. You will always need a degree of luck. I always look for so called value and beating the book is the only way to make betting pay in the long run, but so many imponderables in greyhound racing it cant be classed as an exact science
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p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 12 Oct 12 10:54
Woody when you back a dog ante post you are backing him against every other dog in the competition, 48 or whatever amount that may be. His price therefore has to reflect his/her chance against the other 47 runners.

If the dog you backed makes the final you can't say x price was value as he is now shorter as now his price is reflecting his/her chances against only 5 other dogs.

You will never get it, or don't want to i think.


Anyway i don't know why the thread took this turn but it should be left as it started, a brilliant tip and well done to those who profited off it.
By:
woodmanchester
When: 12 Oct 12 11:01
Yeah, great shout. Keep them coming, please
By:
p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y
When: 12 Oct 12 11:07
Keep them coming?? Woody do you not see the flaw in your theory??

If i offered you 5/1 Cuil Cougar at the start of the Irish Derby in your view that would have been a value bet as the dog went off 3/1 for the final?? I persume 16/1 Coolykereen Imp would have been value too seen as his 'sp' was shorter in the final??

Is what i'm saying that diffucult to understand?
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