Puma and Suger ray are with a clear run..no question. ..but it would have to be a trouble free run...not likely to happen... i also think that cougar best run is around 29.60 so a 29.35 run would catch couger' IF HE LEADS] A fascinating final

It does not take a 29.25 run if the dog gets a clear.

If Cougar leads and Camas comes from behind him, his running style will not have been compromised in the slightest despite being behind. Camas will not do that sort of clock but can do around the 29.50 mark alright.

It all depends on the extent to which the dog behind is compromised without necessarily being baulked.

agree with the fellow above.most years i have been, something has popped out contrary to its previous runnings.i still think sugar will suprise a few with his early in the final.opinions opinions opinions.......

To short to even worry about!

Seen what i fancy for Saturday, some expected decent prices but waiting for betting. Looking like Warhawk (NAP) and Future Boy (NB) though. Think will give Tynwald Bolt another chance against odds-on Maestro. Fancy Vic, Apollo, Rankin, it's the minor races the bigger prices. If all goes pear-shaped, trying to get out on Martinstown Snow. Always liked the dog and think Tibetan could be too short

sorry seen you said you're waiting for betting

Not surprised Rankin is a NR. Didn't fancy him in the slightest from 6 in that race. Will anyone price up the supporting races as they are not on SIS/Sky?

Just misread your post, i'd say 365 and maybe spoils may price up tomorrow evening and then the rest may follow Saturday morning

12/1 Camas now. Had my cutting-losses saver

mildeam panther 200 (put on 9 months ago
captain america 35ew
jayfkay 20ew
jet 195

and just found out i cant even finish in top 10 in the comp was counting on the 20 euro 3rd

considering backing puma in final impressed me with pace off 2nd bend in semis but then thinking this years irish derby is not my year, fancy a big lay on warhawk cant see him getting home myself and a few bets on the undercard on dogs that could of ended up fav if got into final, good luck to all concern in final and dont drink all the guiness im over 1st dec cant wait

Yes

Race 8: Newlawn Tock NR, no reserve runs

Race 11: Confident Rankin replaced by Mahogany Boy (w)

Bitterly disappointed with no prices Ladbrokes and Paddy Power. Fair play to 365, fine for small punter like me and at least best odds guaranteed, so gone with them to save *arsing around phoning England from Ireland.

Apart from well chronicled Derby and Plate, mainly looking for wins for Warhawk, Future Boy, Vic, Apollo and Snow.

Lost my City baseball cap, so will be wearing my tatty reserve England cap instead, just on the off chance of rain. Hope to see some of you there!

PS, got a plane to catch now

Only bet lasted hour

What a card, cannot wait for tonight. Played a few of them off course.

Race 2:: Allen Master @ 7/4 + 6/4 (Think he is absolutely plotted up, wants rails and has them. A decent exit and he leads them up and if going around he should not be getting picked up.)

Race 3:: Howling Wind @ 12/1 (Will he stay? I don't know but if he repeats his 550y and 575y runs around here he will go a mile clear and i have a suspicion he may get home, i think he'd get 750y anyway. The long run to the bend should give him the chance to get to the front and hopefully he builds up a huge advantage.)

Race 5:: Solo Star @ 7/2 (If she comes away here she could be gone. The draw is good as long as she don't make a mess of the start as she should clear Shabby in 5 and have the mid to wide to herself. You'd have to worry about Diva getting a run with Patsy drawn outside her and Millie inside her and anyway she can't afford to make a mess of the start as she has done the last twice.)

Race 7:: Ruthless Man @ 7/1 (for the reasons i posted on the Plate thread)

Race 8:: Ballymac Vic @ 2/1 (Surprised he is so big. It's a brilliant race and i think the week off may swing it in his favour.)

Race 9:: Camas, Sugar Ray, Puma, George, Cougar, Imp (biggest winner to smallest winner)

Race 12:: Tynwald Bolt @ 5/1 + 7/2 (If Sparta Maestro comes away and goes around in front i think he could possibly go close to Late Late Show's clock but at the prices i'm against him. 3,4,5 and 6 are all either mid or wide so he will have to do it right to ensure he clears them run up. On the inside Charly has looked paceless early in his races around Shelbourne and this time i think Tynwald Bolt will get the rails early and lead on the fence, it's a worry that he eases into the bend but i can see him leading around tonight and it will take some effort from any dog to back run him.)

Race 13:: Noirs Buachaill @ 9/2 (I expect both Martinstown and Noirs to reverse form with Abbeyville as they should improve for their last runs. Will Tibetan Skies get a run? I thought Noirs Buachaill ran a blinder last week and would probably have won if getting a run at the 3rd and have just sided with him. Martinstown is a fair price too and if he went bigger i may play him too.)



Glorius warm sunny day today, holiday tomorrow and most improtant probably the best greyhound card i've ever seen. Can't wait!!!!

Profit or not another excellent review P.F.

Thought rover was little unlucky there at 12/1
Think he and jet rub together vic got away great race!

Sugar Ray to rocket from traps tonight, lead off the second bend and clock 29.30 dead

oi  oi.... same as last yr, just on the line.

got a solo again not so close half length!