BIGGIE IS will suger ray and puma hit each other can see 3 gone
geogre and camas CHASE him down!! **** me geogre can nick this

Absolute dream Derby Final, i think when they went down the back in the 2nd semi final was possibly one of the best moments of my life

Powers have puma at 2/1. I reckon he will be last going down the back straight.

Have Camas at 25/1 going into the final next week, bring it on!! Had our dog win a final tonight at Curraheen. Gary Wiltshire presenting the trophies. Really nice guy. Got a few photos and had a pint with him. Great night. Next stop SHELBOURNE!!!

Read 1st semi spot on. Bug and Imp cut it out, Puma mow them down, obvious. 13/8 was too big! . Cant see Imp or Camas turning the tables.

That leaves 2nd semi. Reckon Sugar Ray would have overhauled Cougar with a clear run and George there on merit.

Final: Easy to cover Camas, not so Cougar. 5/2 no good, want about 10/3 really. Best winner in order financially: Imp, George, Sugar Ray.
Actually, would have been very sweet on Sugar Ray in T1. He hammered Puma in Quarters but with this draw, fancy Puma to overpower Cougar, who is set to lead. If Sugar Ray can get a run at them and grab rails, go close. George thereabouts. Imp and Camas need lots of luck

the first derby semi com from she'll last night thought he was breaking into police LP

DefinateOpinion if they ran the race again i would bet Razldazl Bugatti at 4/1 again, he ran too bad to be true and was never going to win when Puma turned so close, i didn't expect that. As for shown nothing the whole Derby to command any respect i suggest you watch the 1/4 final. Yes he ran like an absolute drain in the early rounds but he ran well behind Laughil Billy in the 1/4 final.


The second semi was a dream, had 3 bogeys left in the Derby with one of them a big bogey and they all went out. Now why couldn't Wimbledon have gone like that at the semi final stage

p_r_e_m_i_e_r__f_a_n_t_a_s_y 27 Jun 12 12:55 
Where is the value in the market now? Here is my views anyway.

Sparta Maestro @ 10/1 (I still think he deserves to be favourite despite Saturday nights flat run where he was found to be sore on his foot. Before that run he had never been out of the first 3. He runs Shelbourne brilliantly and can do it from the front or from behind. Of the market leaders he is the one i prefer at the prices.)

Razldazl Will @ 25/1 (Bigger on here. I have actually been disappointed with him this year but he just keeps making finals so in terms of an ante post bet he seems a reasonable price for that reason. The only competition he has entered that he did not make the final was the Gold Cup where he got bad trouble but he has made the National Puppy Stake, Easter Cup, Betfair 600 and ECC Timber finals all at Shelbourne and it is not hard to imagine him making the Derby Final too.)

Skywalker Puma @ 40/1 (He did a stunning run at Kilkenny last Friday night and has already shown what he can do at Shelbourne and the step up to 550y looks sure to suit. In fact watch the Larry Dunne final that Sparta Maestro won and Skywalker Puma was absolutely flying into the 3rd bend where he got no run and i wonder what the result would have been had he got through there. He has massive pace and stays well and should be tough to knock out.)

Power Of God @ 50/1 (Won the Produce Stakes at Clonmel but i don't think that track suited him the best and he did well to win in the circumstances. At Shelbourne he has already clocked 28.44 (twice) and he runs in the Race Of Champions at Tralee Saturday night where he was only beat a SH by Razldazl Rioga in the semi finals. The only worry i have with him is the draw, he is mad for the rails so the draws will be crucial for him.)

Camas @ 66/1 (A Produce Stakes finalist behind Power Of God and he runs in the ECC Timber final on Saturday night at Shelbourne. This lad is a proper (w) seed and a proper wide runner. Since coming to Shelbourne he seems to have improved his trapping and he has fine all round pace. If he keeps drawing the outside box he should avoid all problems and is one who could go deep in the comp.)

Cashen Mafuma @ 66/1 (Another Produce Stakes finalist and he looked unlucky in last weeks semi final of the Race Of Champions. His form down the country is very good and he can do it both ways. The last time he ran in Shelbourne over 525y he was pretty unlucky in losing 1/2L to Dear Pa and the extra distance should prove to be no problem. He was naughty after the line that night so probably has a kink but if reproducing the form he shows in CML, LMK and TRL the price would be too big.)

Captain America @ 100/1 (Made the semi final of the Produce Stakes but it was in the 1/4 final where he really looked on the up. That night he drew trap 6 (unseeded) and he made his best start and it really seemed to suit. He was then knocked out in the semi final but returned on finals night to win in 29.79 over 550y from 6 this time seeded (w). He then went around Newbridge in a trial in early May in 28.46 but has not been seen since. I just hope everything is ok with him but the improvement he showed during the Produce Stakes was excellent and if he can show that around Shelbourne i think he could do a lot better than those odds suggest.)



I thought Tyrur Sugar Ray was a good price @ 33/1 but his last 2 runs have left given me more questions than answers. He clearly has the pace to figure in the Derby and things didn't go perfect for him in those races. Maybe i'm being a bit rash as he is very inexperienced. Like Power Of God he is another who wants to be drawn rails as so far he turns left from boxes but maybe with experience he may learn to hold his line run up.




Jesus that post went well, some disasters with 2 non runners and Power Of God going in round 1 and Captain America in round 2 but barring them it went excellent.

Meant closer between Sugar Ray and Puma than in the Quarters

Thanks. Warhawk surely come on for that. Getting excited now! Just going to look for the Dublin weather Saturday!

I got wet walking down O'Connell St when last there year before last, wouldnt be keen on a repeat, even wearing my City baseball cap!

Imp camp must be delighted they backed out of Irish sprint.

The more i think about it, the more i'm warming to Sugar Ray. Conor knows how to get them to ping in an Irish Derby final, could see Sugar Ray turning second to Cougar, who i think is due a miss anyway

if the white pulls the blue and the black around it will be interesting down the back.i wish the 2 of them were in each others traps! the red could get an absolute dream run around the inside.

bugatti? you might want to look again mate.

Bug does throw in the odd lack-lustre effort

I'm scared stiff to put up how I think the final will be run, I can only see Puma or George winning, if Puma doesn't clear George by the 2nd or even halfway, it will never beat it, bet George ew this morning, hoping Puma wins with George running 2nd. cheers.

dont you think even if imp does come away it runs to its right to the first bend? could be plenty room for sugar ray to get going. my head is starting to hurt!!

Something must surely get clear, dont mind as long as it's not Cougar beyond recall

ok here goes.cougar leads.sugar goes up second and squeezes just infront of puma going into the bend.sets off after cougar and picks him up off the last bend.wins going away.george gets a solo around the inside but just gets pipped by puma for second.simples.

if only it was that simple lads.

The entire Derby final card is now up but no sprint this year - What price Cuil Cougar to lead to the opening bend?
I think a certain firm might be pricing up which dog records the fastest sectional in the big one