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Read in an article there was once an incredible 33 dog tracks in london..can that be right..and if so anyone help me out with some names.
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of some of the less obvious ones
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What are we talking ... within M25 ?
Can only think of 18 unless of course someone out there knows different (and they will  )1 Catford 2 Charlton , 3 Clapton, 4 Crayford 5 Edgware 6 Hackney 7 Harringay 8 Hendon, 9 New Cross, 10 Park Royal, 11 Romford 12 Stamford Bridge, 13 Wandsworth , 14 Wembley 15 White City 16 Wimbledon 17 West Ham 18 Walthamstow |
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Brixton
Harlington Corner Southall Temple Mills Dagenham? |
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is southall within m25 ?
if yes 23 |
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yes southhall is inside, not that the m25 was built back then
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The Dominion cinema was opened in 1935 (fn. 75) and the Odeon in 1936. (fn. 76) The greyhound racing stadium in Havelock Road was opened by 1939
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/report.aspx?compid=22402 |
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I assume we do not count Watford as qualifying as London.
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Further to Watford, I understand it is within the M25.
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it is just inside sparrow, should we be useing the M25 though for london tracks though? maybe the north circular?
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could do with another ring between the two, NC is too inner and the m25 is too outer
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Watford seems to count as in Greater London, but that would also bring in Hoddesdon where Rye House was situated.
So I suppose you are right in Questioning the use of the M25 and Greater London. |
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The Staines track, which was outside town, may have been situated just inside the M25. If not, then it was just the other side!
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Wandsworth
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Sorry just seen it, DOH
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I Guess the best way to find out the rest is look at the list of defunct speedway tracks in london.
Was there greyhound racing at crystal palace? i dont know but just found this below. In 1926 motorcycle enthusiasts led by Fred Mockford and Cecil Smith, formed a group called London Motor Sports Ltd, and having identified Crystal Palace Park as a racing venue, were eventually allowed to run a meeting on May 21st 1927 over a 1 mile course of the parks paths. Over 10,000 people turned up to the meeting each paying 1 shilling plus 2d tax (approx. 6p). Following an incident during the meeting, several spectators were injured by a sidecar and questions were asked in Parliament about the incident. By the second meeting £500 had been invested in crash barriers, widening and general improvement of the circuit. Some 16,000 attended this meeting and the scene was set for racing to rival cricket, football, and greyhound racing at the venue. |
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Just found another
 Mitcham Greyhound Stadium, which has long been demolished. |
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Think i've found another
Edmonton Greyhound Track. Greyhound stadium? There isn't a greyhound stadium in Lower Edmonton you cry. However Peter Cartwright assures me that there was once and its entrance was in Eastbournia Avenue. It was certainly in use in the 1930s but I should imagine wasn't much older than that because greyhound racing only started becoming really popular then. How long it lasted I don't know but Peter reports it was totally derelict by the late 1950s. Debbie chips in that it was a flapping track. Peter says the nearest current point to the location is Barrowfield Close and I believe he means the site has been developed on. There is an area between the allotments and Montagu Road and just north of Salmon's Brook that looks like it was probably developed in the early 1960s. The unused communal yards with posts for washing lines somewhat date it to a more innocent time. There are also allotments there that could have been the site. Sometimes I think a c. 1960 streetmap could be handy... Richard Burton sent in a clip from a 1930s Geographia London Atlas that shows a 'Greyhound Race Course' in green space between Tramway Avenue and Tudor Road. Gary Boudier has a map that suggests this was a training track rather that a racecourse. When it appeared and when it disappeared is an unknown to me. It does say TRAINING TRACK tho so im not sure  also someone said it was a flap? |
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So could be 3 more
Crystal Palace Mithcham Edmonton |
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Brixton,shut 1938.
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hold on i think the Mitcham one is Clapton
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There was a speedway track at Lea Bridge from 1928-1939, not sure if there was dogs there
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Im not sure about Micham, it may have been another track? just found this
Streatham and Mitcham were boosted by the signings of overseas stars such as New Zealand full-back George Nepia.[2] In their first season the club attracted an average crowd of over 10,000 fans, with crowds of up to 20,000. A Sunday Express article on December 15, 1935 headlined "Blow for London club players: more support needed". In 1936, the average crowd dropped to 5,000, when a crowd of 10,000 was more required to break even. On the day that they raised 10,162 against Rochdale Hornets, they had to cut the wages of the players, despite winning the game. On one home match day in the middle of the season the gate was £97 outgoings for players against £105 outgoings, the major problem was the wage bill. Greyhound racing had been intended to ensure the venture was viable, however, that had its own costs and was struggling in this period too. However, falling crowds and rising costs forced the club to disband by March 1937. |
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and to think whats left nowdays.
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Whitmarsh and Mr Memory will tell you all you need to know about these and other long forgotten tracks.
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what about the welsh harp in hendon where greyhound racing started not belle vue
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how many flapping tracks was there in the south
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Dagenham is inside M25 and in the London Borogh and if Romford's in. so is Dagenham
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Both were larcenous long shots, but the Dagenham dog track betting coup beats England's Great Train Robbery of last summer for sheer engineered sneakiness. And if the bookies had not got together and refused to pay the plotters, the profit to the gang that **** the odds at Dagenham would have come to about $28 million, considerably more than the train bandits got for working harder.
The gang of bettors struck last week at Dagenham Greyhound Stadium near London. About 100 of them manned the 31 tote windows, stalling and strong-arming customers away while they made forecast bets on dogs they did not expect to win, thus running up the odds on the favorites. Simultaneously, more confederates in London bet similarly with bookmakers, and tied up all telephone lines to the track so bookies could not lay off the bets and reduce the odds. Result: The tote payoff coupling the first and second dogs was at 9,872 to 1 odds, and the gang stood to clean up. Then the bookies struck back. |
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Sheller Jones used to run Edmonton dog track.Duggie Tylers father run Temple Mills.There was a dog track at Perry Vale in South London I used to go to on sundays.They ran some races in the morning then went to the pub or you could get a dinner in a local house then a few more races were run in the afternoon.There were always two or three bookies.My father used to take me.Catford Toteboard told me a couple of years ago its all built on.This was late twenties,early thirties.
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What about Mitcham & Crystal Palace whitmarsh?
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rye house
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Bettersea
http://www.greyhoundderby.com/Battersea%20Greyhound%20Stadium.htm |
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Edmonton dog track...unbelievable...spent many years living off of montagu road .never knew that.
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snazzy
Geography 0/10  |
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Harringay Greyhound Stadium
Harringay Greyhound Stadium on Green Lanes opened in 1927. It was originally called Harringay Park. It was the second track in London owned by the Greyhound Racing Association. The first was at White City. In the 1930s crowds of over 10,000 and more than 395 bookies attended Harringay Stadium. Greyhound racing WTF... 395 Bookies |
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Mr Stupid Joined: 02 Aug 08
Replies: 131 25 Jan 11 01:32 Read in an article there was once an incredible 33 dog tracks in london..can that be right..and if so anyone help me out with some names. There was only 31 mate ... article was talking bolleaux 1 Battersea 2 Brixton 3 Catford 4 Charlton , 5 Clapton, 6 Crayford 7 Crystal Palace 8 Dagenham 9 Dagenham 10 Edgware 11 Edmonton 12 Hackney 13 Harlington Corner 14 Harringay 15 Hendon, 16 New Cross, 17 Park Royal, 18 Perry Vale 19 Romford 20 Rye House 21 Southall 22 Staines 23 Stamford Bridge, 24 Temple Mills 25 Walthamstow 26 Wandsworth , 27 Watford 28 Wembley 29 West Ham 30 White City 31 Wimbledon Unless of course ... someone out there knows different ! |
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Cant believe there was two at Dagenham ?
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THREE missing lads .....
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